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What's weird is that most of the bullshido in things like Kung Fu were probably legit grappling at one time, until it became distorted and perverted through the years.
The guy that runs the club I train at was talking about it (he did lots of Chinese arts before he realized he was learning BS then decided to go and do wrestling and BJJ).
For example, we were talking about the mantis hand in kung fu.
More realistically than how various "Mantis styles" of kung fu use this would probably be if we look at the grip in say a tight under hook, reaching up to the deltoid. Or a proper grip on a single collar tie.
collar ties are quite common in mantis, well 7 star at least, alot of the style is based around a almost russian tie/arm drag hybrid.