Opinion Anyone else find Trump's new Palestinian slur disturbing?

[djacobox372]

It's problematic... however "Palestinian" is more of a political movement than an ethnicity.. the ethnicity is Arab. Displaced Arabs in that region didn't start identifying as "Palestinian" until the 1960s--before that the word "Palestinians" referred to everybody in the region, even Jewish Israelis.

If Trump referred to someone as like the "Taliban" nobody would get upset.

 

[andnowweknow]

this is a blatant lie, of course. israel almost invaded gaza back then to eliminate the threat of hamas. but they ranked them below others in the region as a threat. they also were against even having elections if hamas was on the ballot. you are a liar. not that you care.

Is it a lie that Netanyahu and his merry band of lunatic right wingers werr aware that Hamas was going to attack and do exactly what they did, which in turn allowed him and his right wing looney friends to do exactly what they wanted to do?...which is level Gaza...

It's not a lie. But it will help me gauge your reputation of @PhitePhan if you push back on it.

go!

 

[My Spot]

Well this is certainly an interesting response thread.

 

[kflo]

Israel fanbois: “Palestinians voted for Hamas (so they deserve to die).”

Phitephan: “Israel subverted the political process in Palestine and literally enabled Hamas, a terrorist organization, to control Palestine.”

Scerpi: “You’re enabling (Hamas/terrorism/who knows what) phitephan.”

Phitephan: “No, Israel literally enabled Hamas.”

Scerpi: (crickets)

your lying is so shameless.

talk about crickets.

 

[fedoriswar37]

Well, sucking Israeli dick is part of the American identity, not sure what's new here.

Its literally one of the few things they agree on.

 

[mommas homeboy]

This guy has dropped this word several times now and he keeps doing it on the campaign trail as well. He's using it in a demeaning context. Replace Palestinian with pretty much anything else like Black or Jew and this dude's political career would be done. I think it's disgusting that he gets away with using dehumanizing language at a time when many of them are being slaughtered.

Everyone is talking about Biden basically being a corpse and that's understandable but it kind of sucks that this has gone under the radar as a result. If you're voting for Trump because you think he's going to be more isolationist you should probably think again. This dude will suck off Netanyahu even harder than Biden.

It's safe to say at this point that he simply means "Hamas supporter" when he says Palestinian. And he's not wrong at all. I'm pretty sure they've done polls that have shown that Palestinians hate Israel and Jewish people who believe it should exist.

 

[Bwagster]

The level of ironic self embarrassment here is depressing.

The level of brainwashing is astonishing.

 

[44nutman]

Israel fanbois: “Palestinians voted for Hamas (so they deserve to die).”

Phitephan: “Israel subverted the political process in Palestine and literally enabled Hamas, a terrorist organization, to control Palestine.”

Scerpi: “You’re enabling (Hamas/terrorism/who knows what) phitephan.”

Phitephan: “No, Israel literally enabled Hamas.”

Scerpi: (crickets)

This is a great breakdown.
What seems to me is everyone is trying to paint one side as the Villain, when both sides are complete assholes, and the people who suffer are people who just want to live their lives.
Israel has a right to go after those that raped and killed civilians, but the problem is Israel always ham fists their response, and then creates a new generation of Palestines who fucking hate them, because they killed someone's innocent relative. Israel also has done some shady shit, just as much as Hamas has done shady shit.
Nothing makes Israel happier than Hamas being in charge, because it gives them an excuse to be dicks.
Cliffs
Israel and Hamas sucks and the only sympathy I have for the region, is the civilians on both sides who pay for the bullshit with their lives.

 

[PhitePhan]

your lying is so shameless.

talk about crickets.

Former Israeli officials have openly acknowledged Israel's role in providing funding and assistance to Hamas as a means of undermining secular Palestinian factions such as the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO). Brigadier General Yitzhak Segev, who served as the Israeli military governor in Gaza during the early 1980s, admitted to providing financial assistance to Muslim Brotherhood, the precursor of Hamas, on the instruction of the Israeli authorities. The aim of the support was to weaken leftist and secular Palestinian organizations.[2]

Upon a visit to Israel from Turkish Prime Minister Mesut Yilmaz and Turkish lawmaker Feyzi İşbaşaran [tr] in 1998, it was revealed that Netanyahu suggested Turkey to support Hamas. Netanyahu said "Hamas also has bank accounts for aid in banks, we help them too, you [Turkey] can help too."[4][5]

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has defended allowing transfer of millions of dollars to Hamas-run Gaza despite criticism from within his own government, including the education minister Naftali Bennet.[7]

Israeli intelligence officials believe that the money had a role in the success of 2023 Hamas-led attack.[9]

In an interview with Politico in 2023, former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said that "In the last 15 years, Israel did everything to downgrade the Palestinian Authority and to boost Hamas." He continued saying "Gaza was on the brink of collapse because they had no resources, they had no money, and the PA refused to give Hamas any money. Bibi saved them. Bibi made a deal with Qatar and they started to move millions and millions of dollars to Gaza."[10] At a party conference of Likud in 2019, Benyamin Netanyahu said: "Anyone who wants to prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state needs to support strengthening Hamas."[11]

Israeli support for Hamas - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[AWilder]

This thread reminds me of this bit

 

[idrankyourbeer's maid]

"Tim Scott" - Israel is in my blood.
Geez, that's how they act no doubt

 

[Islam Imamate]

It's problematic... however "Palestinian" is more of a political movement than an ethnicity.. the ethnicity is Arab. Displaced Arabs in that region didn't start identifying as "Palestinian" until the 1960s--before that the word "Palestinians" referred to everybody in the region, even Jewish Israelis.

If Trump referred to someone as like the "Taliban" nobody would get upset.

Palestinian is a nationality and Benny Morris claims the identity goes back to the 1920s when the Arabs of Palestine became cut off from the others through the Mandate of Palestine.

 

[kflo]

Former Israeli officials have openly acknowledged Israel's role in providing funding and assistance to Hamas as a means of undermining secular Palestinian factions such as the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO). Brigadier General Yitzhak Segev, who served as the Israeli military governor in Gaza during the early 1980s, admitted to providing financial assistance to Muslim Brotherhood, the precursor of Hamas, on the instruction of the Israeli authorities. The aim of the support was to weaken leftist and secular Palestinian organizations.[2]

Upon a visit to Israel from Turkish Prime Minister Mesut Yilmaz and Turkish lawmaker Feyzi İşbaşaran [tr] in 1998, it was revealed that Netanyahu suggested Turkey to support Hamas. Netanyahu said "Hamas also has bank accounts for aid in banks, we help them too, you [Turkey] can help too."[4][5]

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has defended allowing transfer of millions of dollars to Hamas-run Gaza despite criticism from within his own government, including the education minister Naftali Bennet.[7]

Israeli intelligence officials believe that the money had a role in the success of 2023 Hamas-led attack.[9]

In an interview with Politico in 2023, former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said that "In the last 15 years, Israel did everything to downgrade the Palestinian Authority and to boost Hamas." He continued saying "Gaza was on the brink of collapse because they had no resources, they had no money, and the PA refused to give Hamas any money. Bibi saved them. Bibi made a deal with Qatar and they started to move millions and millions of dollars to Gaza."[10] At a party conference of Likud in 2019, Benyamin Netanyahu said: "Anyone who wants to prevent the establishment of a Palestinian state needs to support strengthening Hamas."[11]

Israeli support for Hamas - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

i certainly don't expect you to care, and i don't expect this to influence the "israel wanted hamas" crew at all, but here's the reality:

Rice urges Israelis to allow Palestinian vote with Hamas

Rice urges Israelis to allow Palestinian vote with Hamas

www.denverpost.com

United Nations – Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice urged Israel on Tuesday to allow Palestinians to hold legislative elections in January without interference, implicitly criticizing Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.

During a visit to New York City last week, Sharon said he would withhold cooperation with the Palestinian legislative elections if candidates from the militant group Hamas took part.

they didn't want hamas, they had essentially been at war with hamas since the late 80s, and considered invading gaza after elections to eliminate the threat posed by hamas. they ultimately concluded they had bigger threats to worry about in the region ("Gaza was "number four" on his list of threats, preceded by Iran, Syria, and Hizballah in that order").

So while you keep saying Israel wanted to and helped them get elected, you’re lying and you should stop. You won’t of course.

Also, again, what would have been the consequences of denying funds and aid into Gaza in say 2018?

 

[Unknown Pleasures]

This guy has dropped this word several times now and he keeps doing it on the campaign trail as well. He's using it in a demeaning context. Replace Palestinian with pretty much anything else like Black or Jew and this dude's political career would be done. I think it's disgusting that he gets away with using dehumanizing language at a time when many of them are being slaughtered.

Everyone is talking about Biden basically being a corpse and that's understandable but it kind of sucks that this has gone under the radar as a result. If you're voting for Trump because you think he's going to be more isolationist you should probably think again. This dude will suck off Netanyahu even harder than Biden.

I wouldn't say disturbing. it's just disappointing. nuance is dead and buried.

A stupid person talking in stupid ways for a stupid audience.... as usual...

 

[DiddlyDoodly]

How many were in the streets on Oct 7 acting like they just won the world cup? They sure did celebrate the murder of civilians like they voted for Hamas.

Fuck the Palestinians.

They sure did.

I watched 100's of "innocent" Palestinians laugh, cheer, and spit on the dead mangled corpses of young women as their bodies were paraded around in the backs of pick-up trucks.

Fuck all of them.

 

[DiddlyDoodly]

This guy has dropped this word several times now and he keeps doing it on the campaign trail as well. He's using it in a demeaning context. Replace Palestinian with pretty much anything else like Black or Jew and this dude's political career would be done. I think it's disgusting that he gets away with using dehumanizing language at a time when many of them are being slaughtered.

Everyone is talking about Biden basically being a corpse and that's understandable but it kind of sucks that this has gone under the radar as a result. If you're voting for Trump because you think he's going to be more isolationist you should probably think again. This dude will suck off Netanyahu even harder than Biden.

Only fruity kids that look like this get disturbed by what Trump says.

 

[TadDunbar]

TS sounds soft

 

[Andy Capp]

Trump and Biden are both pro Jew and pro Israel.

Trump is likely more so, his daughter is a Jew now I think. His son in law certainly is.

Palestine is the enemy of Israel, so he is going to see them as an enemy.

lol @ pro Jew