Anybody here tried steroids?

[SEXY BEAST]

I wanted to try it but I got a bad liver, the wife said no! Shit, she even cut me down on my alchohol intake about 5 years now!
Any of you guy's try it?

 

[NewHammieWammie]

hey uncle... did you start this thread because of my impression of you ... i was wondering this same thing... but i want to know of someone who has only tried them acouple of times... not some dude who is a addict

 

[SEXY BEAST]

Yea little bradda, you got me thinking about it.
I to know some local braddas, but I'm wondering about these sherdoggers.............ANYBODY?????????

 

[Eric O]

It is bad for your liver and if you already don't have the greatest liver I would not touch most steroids. There are some things that you can take but that depends on what your build is and what exactly has to be done.

 

[vod]

I have been considering this on and off for a while now. I really do wanna add bulk but I'm extremely fearful of losing the size to my barely average package. I heard Creotine is a nice substitute. The effects aren't as great but neither are the risks...

 

[NewHammieWammie]

na dude... i have rocked creatine acouple times... I didnt like that, it was all water weight! I pissed it all away once i stoped! I have been doing protein loading now.. that seemes to be working ok for me! I might rock roids once or twice if they ever come my way but there is no way in hell im sticking with that shit! I heard anyway that the first couple times that you do it, it has that greatest effects.

 

[Tiki]

Steroids are the lazy man's way to size, and much of it is gone once off of a cycle. But don't get me wrong, I wouldn't mind having the money to be lazy for a cycle just to check it out.

 

[Milkman Dan]

I have never tried any anabolic steroids, but I have been tempted while I was playing high school sports. I wasn't going to take anadrol which was the most common used steroid around my high school.

 

[Hojak]

My friend has a hookup for Sustanon 250, which stacks well with Winstrol from what I understand.

If I were to do steroids, I would go anabolic injectables... and only for maybe 3 - 5 cycles within a 6 month period. This shit you've heard about most of it being gone after a cycle is bullshit. Maintenance lifting will keep it packed on for as long as you want it there, from what I understand.

 

[SEXY BEAST]

Yea like I said I would like to but can't, do to a bad liver, but if I could I would go for some sust. and some nandy-dandy.
I hear the juice gives you a boner that a butcher would admire!

 

[Milkman Dan]

The intra-muscular injection anabolic steroids (If needle is used properly) is the safest way to take anabolic steroids. If I were to ever to use anabolic steroids, they would be my first choice for safety reasons. Sure they might not be as effective as anadrol, but they aren't as dangerous as anadrol.

 

[Tiki]

Originally posted by Dave Hojak
If I were to do steroids, I would go anabolic injectables... and only for maybe 3 - 5 cycles within a 6 month period. This shit you've heard about most of it being gone after a cycle is bullshit. Maintenance lifting will keep it packed on for as long as you want it there, from what I understand.

It's more of a gradual increase and decrease in dosage that helps keep it there, from what I've read. If you do the mega doses of today's bodybuilders, and jump on, and then jump off of a cycle, you'll lose alot. If you do cycles like when anabolics were first made, then you're gonna keep most of the muscle and strength. Until I can get my hands on some though, I can't say personally which way it goes.

 

[Tangun]

Originally posted by Dave Hojak
This shit you've heard about most of it being gone after a cycle is bullshit. Maintenance lifting will keep it packed on for as long as you want it there, from what I understand.

that's right. Most people who lose their mass is because they don't know how to train natty. My opinion is that if you're gonna take them, you shouldn't take them because you're skinny and you want to gain some weight; you should take them after you've made some progress naturally. Anybody can make good gains on a good lifting/eating program. Even skinny people. They just have to learn to eat and train right. Once you have some decent experience and know how to train right naturally, then decide whether you want to use. That way when you get off the juice, you will know how to keep your mass. Some of it will go away though, depending on your situation. It's really hard to keep your mass if you're way above your genetic limit through roids.

BTW, most of my friends who work out have juiced at one time or another.

 

[Tangun]

Originally posted by Tiki
It's more of a gradual increase and decrease in dosage that helps keep it there, from what I've read. If you do the mega doses of today's bodybuilders, and jump on, and then jump off of a cycle, you'll lose alot. If you do cycles like when anabolics were first made, then you're gonna keep most of the muscle and strength. Until I can get my hands on some though, I can't say personally which way it goes.

by the time you hit pro-level, you are way beyond your genetic limits. Then it's hard as fuck to keep the gains, from what I've seen. Plus it takes quite a lot of juice to get you to that level. Steroids really is a science, it's hard to get it right because there's so much BS out there. If you use proper dosage for your bodyweight and your experience level and your goals, then cycle off of them intelligently you will be able to do pretty well. By cycling off intelligently I don't mean tapering (which is BS, erroneous thinking), I'm talking about proper cycling periods and doses followed by use of testosterone stimulant drugs (HCG, Clomid, Nolvadex), etc.

 

[The Jake]

Since Iron Trav is not here to be the voice of reason I will interject.

Are you a professional athlete/fighter/bodybuilder?

Have you been weight training regularly and consistently AND EATING correctly for at least 3 years?

Do you drink no less that 3 litres of water/day?

If the answer is no to any of these questions, chances are you are NOT suitable to using steroids.

There are several reasons for this.

1) Unless it is a career and your livelihood is dependant on it, your health is simply not worth it. Not that I condone it's use anyway but you have no reason to even consider using it, is my point.

2) Unless you are already sufficiently strong, and unless you have laid the proper foundations of a good training routine and diet down pat, chances are not only will your gains not last, you will more likely fuck yourself in the long term. You will do damage to your body because, simply put, you do not know how to take care of it.

3) Anyone who doesn't drink enough water and is thinking about steroids, I have two words for you: KIDNEY DIALYSIS. You think I'm joking? There's plenty of guys out there who started shooting up the gear, now in their mid to late 20s on dialysis who thought they could beat the system and now they're paying the price. Water is mandatory to flushing the kidneys. And that's the only one of the MANY, MANY things you have to worry about on steroids.

The other largest issues is that these dickheads who shoot up the shit, very few (that I know of) actually undergo medical screening and monitoring. I know of several bodybuilders who have and do, and they go for monthly/bimonthly checks. They get their blood, hormonal levels checked as well as their kidneys and so on. They get everything checked and ensure that they're not going to fuck themselves up. My bet is the average dickhead here who is thinking of trying it won't. I'm also betting they haven't done their dues in the gym in the first place, which is why they're asking these questions -- because otherwise they'd have done their homework and they'd KNOW ALL THIS IN THE FIRST PLACE.

- The Jake

 

[Tangun]

I will definitely put a strong word of support to what Jake is saying that if you're really really interested in juicing, you really should learn about it first, then take yourself as far as you can naturally, THEN consider it. I would usually advise anybody against it, even most fighters actually, except heavyweights where there is no weight limit. If you are a football, powerlifting, etc other strength sport athlete and want to go pro or do really well in amateur comp, then maybe you should consider it. If you want to go far in bodybuilding, it is a must that you use.

 

[The Jake]

Just another thing I want to say on this.... people are comparing Creatine to steroids.

That's like comparing apples and oranges.

Nothing, and I mean NOTHING can give you rapid gains like steroids (apart from HGH, even that I'm not sure what the gain are). Period. So get this RIGHT out of your heads.

Second of all, Creatine basically increases the body's stores of adenosenetriphosphate(ATP) which is, in layman's terms, 'energy' at a cellular level.

To summarise, creatine increases these stores and thus, gives you more energy.

Steroids basically increase your body's testosterone levels. Testosterone serves many purposes but the primary one of interest here is that it regulates and controls muscle growth.

- The Jake

 

[shidokanartist]

Thanks Jake, That is a great post. Do you know anything about these doctor regulated programs of hormonal therapy.

 

[Hojak]

Originally posted by Red Dragon
Looks like we got ourselves a bunch of future Barnetts on this board.

That's almost too brash a comment to acknowledge. To simply assume that everyone is going to juice based on a simple inquiry about the subject is harsh. Surely more than a few people here are willing to say "hey, I'd try it" with an open mind, but Dragon... I implore you not to judge them based upon their curiousities. If enough people adopt your mentality towards disagreeable issues, we'll be stuck discussing ourselves in backscratch topics & shameless promotion posts for the rest of our days here. And that suuuuuuucks.

 

[Tangun]

agree with Dave, if we talk about it in a mature manner and things don't got too off the hook we should be able to discuss it.