shidokanartist
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So, I guess Josh is guilty until proven innocent. Just like Lance armstrong Right? WTF?
Originally posted by Bodysnatcher
I keep thinking about it. I am 34 and 6'1" and 220 lbs. I have lost 40 lbs in the last year and have been working out 6 days a week for the last 11 months. I feel that I am beginning to reach my limit for gains and would like to lean out a bit more.
Sustanon 250 is an oil-based injectable containing four different testosterone compounds: testosterone propionate, 30 mg; testosterone phenylpropionate, 60 mg; testosterone isocaproate, 60mg; and testosterone decanoate, 100 mg. The mixture of the testosterones are time-released to provide an immediate effect while still remaining active in the body for up to a month. As with other testosterones, Sustanon is an androgenic steroid with a pronounced anabolic effect. Therefore, athletes commonly use Sustanon to put on mass and size while increasing strength. However, unlike other testosterone compounds such as cypionate and enanthate, the use of Sustanon leads to less water retention and estrogenic side effects. This characteristic is extremely beneficial to bodybuilders who suffer from gynecomastia yet still seek the powerful anabolic effect of an injectable testosterone. The decreased water retention also makes Sustanon a desirable steroid for bodybuilders and athletes interested in cutting up or building a solid foundation of quality mass. Dosages of Sustanon range from 250 mg every other week, up to 2000 mg or more per week. These dosages seem to be the extremes. A more common dosage would range from 250 mg to 1000 mg per week. Although Sustanon remains active for up to a month, injections should be taken at least once a week to keep testosterone levels stable.
A steroid novice can expect to gain about 20 pounds within a couple of months by using only 250 mg of Sustanon a week. More advanced athletes will obviously need higher dosages to obtain the desired effect. Sustanon is a fairly safe steroid, but in high dosages, some athletes may experience side effects due to an elevated estrogen level. With dosages exceeding 1000 mg a week, it is probably wise to use an antiestrogen such as Nolvadex (tamoxifen citrate) or Proviron (mesterolone). The use of Sustanon will suppress natural testosterone production, so the use of HCG (human chorionic gonadotropin) or Clomid (clomiphene citrate) may be appropriate at the end of a cycle. Sustanon 250 is a good base steroid to use in a stack. Athletes interested in rapid size and strength gains find that Sustanon stacks extremely well with orals such as Anadrol (oxymetholone) and Dianabol (methandrostenlone). On the other hand, Sustanon also stacks well with Parabolan (trenbolone hexahydrobencylcarbonate), Masteron (drostanolone propionate), and Winstrol (stanozolol) for athletes seeking the hard, ripped look. Sustanon 250 is quite abundant on the US black market.
Originally posted by Blown & Injected
I think a key point that had been stated earlyer and then stepped on by others is abuse and use.
A person has to remember that testosterone is a naturally occuring hormone thus injecting a synthetic form of it into your body won't kill you.
Now what can kill you is severe abuse of many differnt types of steroids over a long period of time when you blood test tell you you should stop and you dont!
Women have been taking there own form of hormones for years with slight ramifications in the form of birth controll pills and Docters are just now starting to give male testosterone to patients w/ frequency..
Jake, I think you're scaring them more than anything.
Seriously though... a lot of people in this thread are making it sound as if doing steroids for a few cycles is going to bring on the worst, and that's simply not true.
Originally posted by Tangun
Although I agree with your point about abuse versus use (although use will still have negative consequences), I have to disagree with your argument about testosterone occurring naturally therefore putting more is not too dangerous. The body is a very meticulous and complicated system of hormonal checks and balances. By artificially increasing testosterone supply you are suppressing your body's natural production of that very hormone and this can lead to undesirable side effects. That is why I posted earlier that cycling off intelligently (correct use of Clomid, etc.) can really make or break a cycle. A lot of people fuck this up AND they don't know how to maintain their gains natty (proper diet/training) therefore they piss away a lot of gains.
But yes, there is a difference between use and abuse. Also, use can still have negative effects, although not as bad as abuse obviously.
Originally posted by Blown & Injected
but another good point that I was trying to make was that testosterone is naturaly occuring as well as naturly depleteing so as people age we may need to suppliment. As we age the medical community is leaning towards"suplimentation " and may be at hand for the older generation but at what age and how much is still a question?
Originally posted by Blown & Injected
Steroids have been used going on since WW2 and very few deaths have been atributed to just steroids,definatly more research needs to be done in the young as well as older people.