Anybody else think Amanda is going to destroy Kayla?

Dionysian said:
Tell me the last time that a once-elite retired person came back to beat an elite-active person.

Hint: Gane and Bisping weren't elite. Never been done to my knowledge. Jon would have lost to Tom as well. Kayla would likely win vs Amanda.
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What's your definition of elite? You gotta be an all time GOAT of the division?

Couture coming out of retirement to take the belt off Sylvia was a great one.
 
cmw43 said:
What's your definition of elite? You gotta be an all time GOAT of the division?

Couture coming out of retirement to take the belt off Sylvia was a great one.
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"Elite" = less than 5 people on the planet Earth beat you at your weight class. Sorry to Bisping, I know he was undisputed champ, but yeah I didn't have him up there.

Randy is a decent example, though I would contend he wasn't retired in the sense that he competed just the year before.
 
I think if Amanda can keep it at distance on the feet she can pull it off.
If it gets in close or on the ground Kayla will take it.
Amanda has lost several times before so it won't be a world ending thing if she loses as compared to Kayla losing, but I also wouldn't be surprised if it goes the distance and ends up a split decision for either one of them.
 
The Bloody Nine said:
Pena beat Nunes up and made her quit. How exactly was that a "fluke"?
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That is the narrative only Pena herself could perpetuate. Amanda proved it was a fluke by beating the living sh*t out of Pena for 5 rounds in 2nd fight winning 50-44. She could not defend her title even once. Both times! That proves it is a fluke in itself.

Even in the first fight, Nunes dominated the first round winning it 10-9, but since she was still affected by COVID, her gas tank ran out. The only reason Pena "made her quit" was because Nunes' own gas tank. Pena could do nothing to her when Nunes was healthy and fully prepared.
 
Cowboy Kurt Angle said:
Kayla can’t fucking box

Kayla Harrison is Juliana Pena on the feet, I feel like it will be as flukey of a win if Harrison wins as it was when Pena won.

Ketlen Vieira isn’t some world renowned striker and she was kinda beating Kayla’s ass on the feet if you go rewatch that fight. Kayla is extremely basic when she strikes and she doesn’t move her head, plus she has a tough weight cut everyday.

If Nunes isn’t washed and is laser focused I feel Amanda is going to knock her the fuck out.
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You've got two big "ifs" for your storyline to play out. How will it go if Amanda isn't laser focused but isn't washed? How about if she IS laser focused but is washed? How about if she has too much ring rust? or any other ifs?
 
its your typical striker vs wrestler match up, and it all depends who will keep the fight where they want it. If Kayla gets a takedown, which lets face it, she is pretty good at those, then i would bet a lot of money that Nunes is done, Nunes has horrible cardio, and 1 round of grappling would probably be the end of her gas tank for the rest of the fight. On the other hand, if this fight is standing, Nunes has probably the best striking/power combination in the history of female MMA in the ufc, i would not want to be Kayla in that scenario.

Got to take into consideration Nunes being rusty after retirement, who knows how crisp or fast she will be, this might just be a paycheck grab for her at this point, its either a KO in rounds 1-2 for Nunes or a UD/Submission for Kayla
 
Nunes isn't winning this. 37, out of the octagon for a bit... Kayla is built like a wrestling terminator.
 
MMAFanCal said:
That is the narrative only Pena herself could perpetuate. Amanda proved it was a fluke by beating the living sh*t out of Pena for 5 rounds in 2nd fight winning 50-44. She could not defend her title even once. Both times! That proves it is a fluke in itself.

Even in the first fight, Nunes dominated the first round winning it 10-9, but since she was still affected by COVID, her gas tank ran out. The only reason Pena "made her quit" was because Nunes' own gas tank. Pena could do nothing to her when Nunes was healthy and fully prepared.
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A narrative? Lol. It's literally what happened. Not the first time Nunes has been beaten up and quit, either. Nice excuses, though. Did she have COVID when the exact same thing happened vs Zingano?
 
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I’m a huge Wmma mark, and I couldn’t care less about this fight. Pointless one off. UFC short term thinking, as usual
 
The Bloody Nine said:
A narrative? Lol. It's literally what happened. Not the first time Nunes has been beaten up and quit, either. Nice excuses, though. Did she have COVID when the exact same thing happened vs Zingano?
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Those are literally the facts. If you want to believe Amanda Nunes was fully prepared in the 1st fight, you go right ahead. Nunes was beating Pena 10-9 R1 until she gassed out in round 2. 2nd fight is the biggest proof where Nunes beat the living sh*t out of Pena for 5 rounds straight 50-44 and did not gas. The only thing I give her credit for is that she is a glutton for punishment. Does not quit.

Pena herself said she would have proved it was not a fluke by defending her title. Those were literally her own words. She could not in both of the times she had a fluke win. It is not my opinion. There is nothing for Pena to brag about beating an opponent who is function at possibly 50% of the capacity.
 
If Kayla chooses to stand with her, it's the most certain way for her to lose.

If Kayla plays around too much, Nunes could catch her coming in. She'd have to end it early in the fight, I don't think her cardio will hold up past 1 round.

But nah, if Kayla is smart, she'll play to her strength and wrestlefuck Nunes until she gets a stoppage in the 2nd half of the fight. I don't see a way that Nunes can stop the takedowns.
 
Cowboy Kurt Angle said:
Kayla can’t fucking box

Kayla Harrison is Juliana Pena on the feet, I feel like it will be as flukey of a win if Harrison wins as it was when Pena won.

Ketlen Vieira isn’t some world renowned striker and she was kinda beating Kayla’s ass on the feet if you go rewatch that fight. Kayla is extremely basic when she strikes and she doesn’t move her head, plus she has a tough weight cut everyday.

If Nunes isn’t washed and is laser focused I feel Amanda is going to knock her the fuck out.
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I thought the general consensus was Amanda kicking ass. Look what she did to cyborg. Cyborg walked down Larissa.
Larrisa took Kayla to her limits and Amanda is literally better at everything Larissa can do. Amanda's tdd top notch, hits harder and has cleaner combinations. Alot of mma math i know but honestly it's right more often than not.
Other than some ring rust or surprise td and big gnp injury I can't see how Kayla wins. I still think it's a good fight for both though.
 
I’m not too excited for it cuz Kayla is killing her self to make the cut, can’t see how long she can keep it up for many more fights
And Nunes is coming out of retirement
 
harrison is the female brock but can handle getting hit as well. i don't see any woman in wmma being able to stop that TD, and it's unlikely she's going to get KOed before getting it. then again, that's why they do the fights.
 
I am going to watch the fight without predictions.
 
VAfan said:
harrison is the female brock but can handle getting hit as well. i don't see any woman in wmma being able to stop that TD, and it's unlikely she's going to get KOed before getting it. then again, that's why they do the fights.
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Kayla’s already struggled to get takedowns and control of Larissa, Ladd and Vieira. Amanda's tdd is better than all 3 of them and she's stronger.
 
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