Any ufc fighters directly from Shootfighting gyms/dojos?

[Ogata]

Are there any ufc fighters who came from a gym that straight up teaches shootfighting skills as a whole?

I mean you have guys from kickboxing but are there no fighters who became skilled in shootfighting and fight with the skillset?

 

[Why did you]

cm punk

 

[Kung Fu Kowboy]

 

[Leinster Rugby]

Shamrocks, Rutten, Barnett

 

[Ogata]

cm punk

NO!

He trained at doufus kickboxing. No catch rassling either.

Trained in the deadly art of shootfighting!

 

[Dr. Rose]

What was called "shootfighting" back in the day has been largely absorbed into MMA schools.

DJ might be considered one coming from Matt Hume's school. Outside of that, it is more or less, used as a label anachronistically.

 

[BenjaminDuffy]

What was called "shootfighting" back in the day has been largely absorbed into MMA schools.

DJ might be considered one coming from Matt Hume's school. Outside of that, it is more or less, used as a label anachronistically.

Pretty much this. It's like Vicente Luque coming from luta-livre: a cool detail, but at this point its skill set overlaps almost entirely with other grappling styles that absorbed it like an amoeba.

 

[TankAbbott4Eva]

Was Jason De Lucia a shoot fighter? Vaguely remember him being introduced as such. Dude was a decent fighter, participated in at least one Gracie challenge match.

 

[Stoic1]

Nobody mentions...


Bart Vale?

 

[Dr. Rose]

Was Jason De Lucia a shoot fighter? Vaguely remember him being introduced as such. Dude was a decent fighter, participated in at least one Gracie challenge match.

Never the same after Bas destroyed his liver in Japan.

 

[shorinryu86]

The Shanrock Bros.

 

[shorinryu86]

Shooto based styles like Shootfighting, Shootboxing and Shoot Wrestling are awesome yo watch.

 

[Tokoloko]

Are there any ufc fighters who came from a gym that straight up teaches shootfighting skills as a whole?

I mean you have guys from kickboxing but are there no fighters who became skilled in shootfighting and fight with the skillset?

Probably some guys from London Shootfighters, Paul Ivens which is founder of gym studied art in Japan and should have some ties to shootfighting (if i remember correctly)... - MVP is from London Shootfighters.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

Shootfighting is basically catch. There are a few catch fighters in the UFC. Some Asian guys will have trained in it.

Shi Ming, the cute Chinese doctor who most recently won Road to UFC with a vicious head kick KO trained in catch wrestling.

There is also Rinya Nakamura, who was the U23 champion in freestyle wrestling. His father ran Shooto which was hte premier Shootfighting place. Rinya certainly learned a lot about submission fighting from his father which is why he transfered easily into MMA, which most world class wrestlers can't do that easily. Rinya only recently hit his first wall as a prospect in January.


In the West, I would think people who train with Humes, Paulson and what not could consider themselves to be shootfighters if they wanted.


Catch still has a decent following in Japan, or at the very least it overflowed into their grappling much more than other parts. So if there are to be more future catch fighters in the UFC, they'd have to poach them from Rizin. Ie, someone like Shinya Aoki is trained in shootfighting and uses MANY of its principles (which makes him very different from other BJJ based fighters), but naturally Asian promotions want guys who are that good and entertaining for themselves, which is a big reason why he never fought in the UFC.

 

[Pancake Sprawl]

Shootfighting is basically catch. There are a few catch fighters in the UFC. Some Asian guys will have trained in it.

Shi Ming, the cute Chinese doctor who most recently won Road to UFC with a vicious head kick KO trained in catch wrestling.

There is also Rinya Nakamura, who was the U23 champion in freestyle wrestling. His father ran Shooto which was hte premier Shootfighting place. Rinya certainly learned a lot about submission fighting from his father which is why he transfered easily into MMA, which most world class wrestlers can't do that easily. Rinya only recently hit his first wall as a prospect in January.


In the West, I would think people who train with Humes, Paulson and what not could consider themselves to be shootfighters if they wanted.


Catch still has a decent following in Japan, or at the very least it overflowed into their grappling much more than other parts. So if there are to be more future catch fighters in the UFC, they'd have to poach them from Rizin. Ie, someone like Shinya Aoki is trained in shootfighting and uses MANY of its principles (which makes him very different from other BJJ based fighters), but naturally Japanese promotions want guys who are that good for themselves.

isn't Aspinall a catch wrestler?

 

[Doctor Grudge]

isn't Aspinall a catch wrestler?

I believe so. He expanded into BJJ likely because it was just becoming more popular and thus more resources for it.

I dont know if he "fights" like a BJJ guy though (outside of having a pretty good wrestling foundation, which he likely got from catch). But yeah, he started grappling with catch wrestling.

 

[europe1]

Alexander Gustaffson had a 5-1 shootfighting record before starting MMA.

Shootfighting managed to establish themselves in regions where the Commission DEMANDS an amature system (such as Sweden). Since, unlike MMA, shooto has a well-developed amature system.

 

[Ogata]

Was Jason De Lucia a shoot fighter? Vaguely remember him being introduced as such. Dude was a decent fighter, participated in at least one Gracie challenge match.

Kung Fu guy

Nobody mentions...


Bart Vale?

Fraud that trademarked the term. Zero skills or fighting ability. Even chatgpt called him a loser that ruined the term.

Probably some guys from London Shootfighters, Paul Ivens which is founder of gym studied art in Japan and should have some ties to shootfighting (if i remember correctly)... - MVP is from London Shootfighters.

Old school gym. Lee Murray was early student.

Shootfighting is basically catch. There are a few catch fighters in the UFC. Some Asian guys will have trained in it.

Shi Ming, the cute Chinese doctor who most recently won Road to UFC with a vicious head kick KO trained in catch wrestling.

There is also Rinya Nakamura, who was the U23 champion in freestyle wrestling. His father ran Shooto which was hte premier Shootfighting place. Rinya certainly learned a lot about submission fighting from his father which is why he transfered easily into MMA, which most world class wrestlers can't do that easily. Rinya only recently hit his first wall as a prospect in January.


In the West, I would think people who train with Humes, Paulson and what not could consider themselves to be shootfighters if they wanted.


Catch still has a decent following in Japan, or at the very least it overflowed into their grappling much more than other parts. So if there are to be more future catch fighters in the UFC, they'd have to poach them from Rizin. Ie, someone like Shinya Aoki is trained in shootfighting and uses MANY of its principles (which makes him very different from other BJJ based fighters), but naturally Asian promotions want guys who are that good and entertaining for themselves, which is a big reason why he never fought in the UFC.

Yes but also sambo master Victor Koga was a contributer to the art of shootfighting.

Also it was catch rassling vs kickboxing which led to shooting fighting.

Some shoot fighters employed tang Soo Do techniques.

 

[Mammothman]

Whenever the fuck Josh Barnett trained?

 

[El Panteron]

NO!

He trained at doufus kickboxing. No catch rassling either.

Makes sense, he was already a multiple times world champion in wrestling.