Crime Antifa gets cancelled

[UberHere]

Trump and his admin labeled peaceful protesters Antifa though, with an upper case A. They were carrying out ideas into action.

Are you sure they weren’t labeling the masked scumbags who show up at protests and hit people in the head with bike locks and set fires? Not that I’d expect an honest answer from you,

 

[Mock Artwork]

These losers harm their interests, their totally ineffective approaches show they aren't capable of stopping fascism or even properly recognizing it. It's mostly collectives of lazy self loathing scum but that doesn't mean they aren't dangerous, they are. EVERYONE is anti-fascist! There might be 5k people in America who openly support fascism as an idea but there are many who act fascistic in their attempts to stop the boogyman.

If these LARPers wanted to be effective they'd develop some speaking talent and prove their positions with emotional stability and defensible unambiguous facts, not misinterpreted and blindly emotional opinions. Something like Charlie Kirk...

Has anyone checked the viewing history for American History X in the past week or so?

 

[AmonTobin]

Are you sure they weren’t labeling the masked scumbags who show up at protests and hit people in the head with bike locks and set fires? Not that I’d expect an honest answer from you,

Nope they were painting everyone with the same brush. The 80 year old men and women standing outside Tesla dealerships. They were called violent thugs for holding signs.

 

[UberHere]

Nope they were painting everyone with the same brush. The 80 year old men and women standing outside Tesla dealerships.

Well that’s dumb. I guess we’ll see her in Gitmo

 

[KBE6EKCTAH_CCP]

I like this guy, but "Antifa doesn't exist" is going to be the dumbest thing I hear today.

And I go on the internet.

I could see progressists trying the „what is even Antifa“ thing now.

 

[DoctorTaco]

this doesn't amount to much when trying to make solid connections to a case of "terrorism".

They don’t need to make a solid case to silence opposition, unfortunately.

I think that fundamentally they are ready for less violence than the far-right, whose most extreme elements are more organised, secretive and tend to be trained in weapons, combat sports, military organisation, etc.

You’re so close. Maybe the secretive, armed, and military trained far right extremists should be considered domestic terrorists and be the focus rather than blue haired dorks in their moms basement or what ever.

Are you sure they weren’t labeling the masked scumbags who show up at protests and hit people in the head with bike locks and set fires? Not that I’d expect an honest answer from you,

Here’s the rub- when they catch the kid doing these things (and hopefully they do. Fuck people who do these things) how do they determine the kids a part of Antifa and not just a violent asshole?

 

[DoctorTaco]

these are only superficial identifiers, there obviously needs to be more than just that, as i already said.

They can strip you of your Miranda rights under suspicion of being a terrorist. i don’t want any government to have that much authority.

everybody in government loved the patriot act. it made easy a lot of things they were still doing, only harder. it's why it was in use for what, almost 20 years? i'm not sure if parts of it aren't still active, they might be.

They’ve renamed it, repackaged it, and broke it into pieces but it’s very much still alive.

again, this falls under superficial identifiers clause. the wall of moms arent getting in fights or organizing with antifa and such. this needs solid government work for proof.

In a perfect world under a perfect system, absolutely. Our governments track record here though is far less than perfect.

 

[DoctorTaco]

Well that’s dumb. I guess we’ll see her in Gitmo

Cops knock this old dude on his ass and he slams the back of his head, ends up hospitalized for a week or more. Hard to watch video.

Trump tweets that he could be antifa and the whole thing is a set up.

Trump suggests without evidence 75-year-old man shoved to the ground by Buffalo police was a "set up"

Mr. Trump was referencing a report from One America News Network, which cited a conservative blog.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[avenue94]

We're in a thread discussing Antifa, who do you think doofus?

And how does one become a member of antifa or qualify in the eyes of the law?

I do always love non-Americans cheering on blatantly authoritarian policies that will hurt America.

 

[avenue94]

- Antifa and Proud Dorks are terrorist orgs. You guys dont see a problem as a bunch of adults larping and fighting in the middle of the cities?

The issue is antifa isn't an organization. It's like saying "we're going o declare radical Islam or Christian nationalist terrorists." It's too vague to be useful.

 

[avenue94]

@avenue94 still flailing away at his attempts to the Socratic method but by asking retarded questions instead of informative ones

Yes, asking what qualifies as an Antifa member despite there not being an actual coherent organization called Antifa before giving the government tremendous power is a silly question.

Should be also declare Christian nationalism to be a terror group too while we're at it?

 

[BudKing8806]

Yes, asking what qualifies as an Antifa member despite there not being an actual coherent organization called Antifa before giving the government tremendous power is a silly question.

Should be also declare Christian nationalism to be a terror group too while we're at it?

I'm getting some Antifa vibes from you here lol. Don't end up on a watchlist now.

 

[avenue94]

I'm getting some Antifa vibes from you here lol. Don't end up on a watchlist now.

It's what I get for visiting the PNW, I must have got an antifa contact high.

 

[Sinister]

No need to ban Christianity but absolutely go after people who commit atrocities motivated by religion. A more relevant example would’ve been Islam, but that shouldn’t be banned either.

So we're NOT okay with the banning of ideas, except that you just blamed "Antifa" for people's violent actions.

Contradiction. "Antifa" shouldn't be labeled terrorism if religious fundamentalism isn't.

Thanks for playing.

 

[Sinister]

but muh epstien fan faction about trump.....

Trump has more public pictures with Epstein than I have with my Mom.

 

[UberHere]

So we're NOT okay with the banning of ideas, except that you just blamed "Antifa" for people's violent actions.

Contradiction. "Antifa" shouldn't be labeled terrorism if religious fundamentalism isn't.

Thanks for playing.

Certain christian nationalist groups and Muslim groups are named as terrorist organizations though.

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

And how does one become a member of antifa or qualify in the eyes of the law?

I do always love non-Americans cheering on blatantly authoritarian policies that will hurt America.

Antifa.....that will hurt antifa.

The state's should want to nip the problem in the bud.

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

The issue is antifa isn't an organization. It's like saying "we're going o declare radical Islam or Christian nationalist terrorists." It's too vague to be useful.

They organize and rally behind flags/insignia.

It isn't that difficult actually.

 

[Sinister]

Certain christian nationalist groups and Muslim groups are named as terrorist organizations though.

Not really. There is a list of Foreign Terror Organizations, but there is no equivalent list of domestic ones. This is BECAUSE we have broad 1st Amendment protections. That's WHY the KKK aren't legally a "terrorist orgnaization" despite having actively murdered people, burned Churches and homes, etc. So if this Administration does this and creates a domestic equivalent to an FTO, it will be the first time. And its very telling that the US's first domestic terrorist designation will be a decentralized entity that opposes fascism. As opposed to the dozens of white supremacist organizations and religious ones who have both destroyed people's lives, and ended them, and already performed a political execution which the President has wholly dismissive of.

 

[EL CORINTHIAN]

Yes, asking what qualifies as an Antifa member despite there not being an actual coherent organization called Antifa before giving the government tremendous power is a silly question.

Should be also declare Christian nationalism to be a terror group too while we're at it?

Antifa and notable anarchists have etched themselves into history. If the idea is that they are mysterious and unknown, that's dumb. If you are advocating for not conducting investigations into terrorist activities on the basis that they conceal their identity, that's equally as stupid.

Simmer down and let the experts take this one on.