Anthony Perosh BJJ Black Belt

[aichokyu]

Belt mean jack in the octagon. A strong wrestler can still control you on the ground regardless of what belt you are...The assumption that "omg he's a black belt, so if he's not unbeatable on the ground then he must be crap"is rampant on Sherdog.

In a pure BJJ fight, Jones would probably lose to guys like Jacare/Roger/Belfort, but if you throw punches and elbows in the mix then he's a major favorite against any of them.

i think you mean a wrestler with some BJJ knowledge, sub defense for example, because a wrestler woth NO BJJ at all gest sumitted by any BJJ BB, this has been established for years now, watch the early MMA if you need to check. Jones without submission training and only wretsling skills gest sublmitted by many fighters and even non professionnal fighter BB.

the thing is now everybody also works on their grappling and a wrestler with some grappling technique can indeed control a pure BJJ player, even submit him

 

[DoUEvenLiftBro]

It seems like the sad reality these days is strong wrestlers with training can negate BJJ black belts. Even Sonnen, who gets criticized for his sub defense, achieved mount on a black belt in Silva and subbed black belt Shogun with a guillotine. Phil Davis is too much of a point fighter, so he just played it super safe and 1-2'ed to a decision on Magahles, but even he probably could have won via wrestling and top control.

 

[Turtleguard]

I can tell you from personal experience how hard it is to submit a good wrestler in no gi from the bottom, specifically when you both are dripping with sweat, everything becomes so slippery. Combine that with the fact that Bader had hurt him bad with punches first, and that Bader is the younger, more athletic fighter it is no wonder Perosh lost the way he did.

 

[KantoTerror]

inb4 K-1 Hippo....

 

[xazzable**]

looked like he got his Black belt in his mcdonalds happy meal. His bottom game is worse than Chaels

 

[Nerdslayer]

The total lack of ground-game off of his back is what I noticed. How a person can have a BJJ black-belt with next to no guard and very little in the way of tieing up his opponent let alone threatening with anything resembling a triangle or transition to a leg-lock or any other sub . . . Is beyond me.

It's the same as a striker who wins contests doesn't need to be a ko striker, not every grappler needs a sick guard.

 

[Skyrim]

Top wrestler was wearing him like a cheap suit.

 

[Terror Zone]

You just don't know what you are talking about.

Pretty much this, Perosh was outmatched in every conceivable area but his BJJ still allowed him to see the final bell.

 

[Fraz]

Shows how obsolete BJJ is becoming in MMA.

 

[Terror Zone]

Yeah, "thank god for that BJJ, I mean without that he wouldn't have been able to absorb so many strikes and stick around through that fucking beating to hear the decision read."

Dumb. He sucks, he needs to be cut. BJJ is not everything.

What else do you think would've allowed a 41 year old former fat guy with no real athleticism to go the distance with a bigger, stronger, faster 30 year old top 10 fighter who was a D1 wrestler and 2 time All-American?