Anthony Perosh BJJ Black Belt

[dissolved]

Just affirms to me how many levels of black belt there are in BJJ . . . He appeared BJJ-less and a bunch of other things against Bader in the loss.

I had to go back and I honestly don't remember his RNC win over Blackledge and just vaguely remember his RNC win over Diabate.

Other than that, I've not seen anything that closely resembles a BJJ game from Perosh and kind of have to pinch myself that Anthony is in the UFC with his skillset.

Am I wrong or does "The Hippo" have a great BJJ game that I'm just not seeing or remembering? Or is there really just a lot of BJJ black belts out there.

 

[lefthighkick01]

to be honest I think he was more just trying to survive more then anything and he hit survival mode early on.

He was just overpowered imo.

 

[Petoria]

His top game is good, just not that good off his back. Plus Bader had a ridiculous strength advantage and is a pretty legit grappler himself.

 

[MacDougall]

Perosh fwiw is a 10 time Australian BJJ Champion (I know...) but his nickname is derived from his high pressure top game. No game off his back.

 

[SlomiGa]

Belt mean jack in the octagon. A strong wrestler can still control you on the ground regardless of what belt you are...The assumption that "omg he's a black belt, so if he's not unbeatable on the ground then he must be crap"is rampant on Sherdog.

In a pure BJJ fight, Jones would probably lose to guys like Jacare/Roger/Belfort, but if you throw punches and elbows in the mix then he's a major favorite against any of them.

 

[Yoville]

Perosh idea plan was to KO Bader.

 

[dissolved]

His top game is good, just not that good off his back. Plus Bader had a ridiculous strength advantage and is a pretty legit grappler himself.

The total lack of ground-game off of his back is what I noticed. How a person can have a BJJ black-belt with next to no guard and very little in the way of tieing up his opponent let alone threatening with anything resembling a triangle or transition to a leg-lock or any other sub . . . Is beyond me.

 

[bjjHERRERA]

either way, dude is tough as nails... bjj bb helped him survive straight up pummeling till the end...

 

[elzar]

bader beat magalhaes too.

sure there are different levels of bjj, but there are also some division I all-american wrestlers whose game just isn't much in mma. munoz, rosholt, simpson, to name a few.

 

[dissolved]

Belt mean jack in the octagon. A strong wrestler can still control you on the ground regardless of what belt you are...The assumption that "omg he's a black belt, so if he's not unbeatable on the ground then he must be crap"is rampant on Sherdog.

In a pure BJJ fight, Jones would probably lose to guys like Jacare/Roger/Belfort, but if you throw punches and elbows in the mix then he's a major favorite against any of them.

I just can't recall any Perosh bout where he looks overly competent on the ground let alone be a BJJ black belt.

 

[Mga223]

bader beat magalhaes too.

sure there are different levels of bjj, but there are also some division I all-american wrestlers whose game just isn't much in mma. munoz, rosholt, simpson, to name a few.

It only took perosh 7 seconds to finish vinny haha

 

[orangecuse]

The total lack of ground-game off of his back is what I noticed. How a person can have a BJJ black-belt with next to no guard and very little in the way of tieing up his opponent let alone threatening with anything resembling a triangle or transition to a leg-lock or any other sub . . . Is beyond me.

Do you not notice that from like 99% of the blackbelts you ever see in MMA? I think it's one of the most annoying things. Hardly anyone is really good and dangerous off their back. That's why we see so many terrible kickboxing exhibitions from BJJ guys & cage humping wall and stall to try to get them down. At least Perosh has some sort of Td's and ha subwins in the UFC. Because just as annoyign many of these BJJ blackbelts aren't any good off their back AND dont have good takedowns to get on top.

 

[SlomiGa]

I just can't recall any Perosh bout where he looks overly competent on the ground let alone be a BJJ black belt.

Agreed. However, it's hard to pull of intricate moves against a sweaty guy that happens to much stronger and isn't wearing a gi.

 

[dissolved]

Do you not notice that from like 99% of the blackbelts you ever see in MMA? I think it's one of the most annoying things. Hardly anyone is really good and dangerous off their back. That's why we see so many terrible kickboxing exhibitions from BJJ guys & cage humping wall and stall to try to get them down. At least Perosh has some sort of Td's and ha subwins in the UFC. Because just as annoyign many of these BJJ blackbelts aren't any good off their back AND dont have good takedowns to get on top.

But, to me, he looked to have an amateur capability at even trying to tie Ryan up. No guard that Bader couldn't pass instantly into side-control. He looked completely lost to me.

Again, part of the reason for posting is I remember when his credentials were announced in the introductions I thought to myself, I'm actually going to watch for his BJJ black-belt as I've never really seen anything from him. When the fight went to the ground it looked poor.

I also get that Bader is a beast. But other legit BJJ black-belts seem to put up a better defensive fight than that.

 

[Dan155]

It's hard to discredit a guy's grappling because he got out-grappled by Bader, who's a tremendous grappler in his own right.

"Black belt" is a huge continuum of talent. There are new black belts, lazy black belts, and the occasional "friendship belts" who are only somewhat more threatening than white belts to no-shit legitimate black belts.

Put Marcelo Garcia on the ground with 99.9% of black belts out there and he could submit them while playing COD or writing haikus. It doesn't mean those other guys aren't actually black belts; they're just not as his level.

 

[The_Renaissance]

Yeah...when it comes to MMA, you have effective BJJ black-belts and ineffective ones, and Perosh is pretty ineffective. He relies on top-control and wearing guys down to get a sub. I was laughing at those posters who claimed he could submit Bader off his back when we've never seen be able to do anything off his back.

 

[Furious George]

I feel like he was concussed early or something or at least beaten into zombie mode because most of the time he didnt even form his basic guard to stop Bader moving to side control, and it isn't like BJ or Florian using butterfly guard, he literally just did not form a guard.

 

[dissolved]

I feel like he was concussed early or something or at least beaten into zombie mode because most of the time he didnt even form his basic guard to stop Bader moving to side control, and it isn't like BJ or Florian using butterfly guard, he literally just did not form a guard.

This is exactly what I saw.

 

[Karelinator]

Uh, he got almost KO'd in first round, hurt numerous times, and was fighting for survival entire time.

If anything, the fact that he had actually survived speaks highly of his bottom game?

 

[Gavster]

Perosh seems to have a relaxed jujitsu game, at least thats what the fights i've seen has shown. So strength/conditioning/wrestling/boxing/kickboxing/athleticism do not get developed to a level that he can meet an opponent in.
I like Maia as an example of an evolving BJJ guy. He developed boxing, did decently but got knocked out a couple of times, so he developed his aggression and wrestling to the point where he could nullify the boxing early.
5 years ago, dudes could come in with BJJ and win with that but its not enough with the strong wrestlers or stand up fighters with enough TDD and sub defence to stop it. Add in the gloves and punching and it becomes a rout!