Another tipping thread. Who is wrong here?

Restaraunt owner mad the person buying food from also can’t pay his employees wages as well. Pay your fucking workers or don’t open a business

America has the most random cultural norms that make zero sense
 
NoSmilez said:


Discuss without making it war room please.
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The aftermath from this confrontation is wild.

Needless to say, it went viral.
There was online harassment of the restraunt and its owner, including hundreds of negative reviews on Goggle & Yelp.
The owner made a video apologizing for the incident.
The local black community protested outside his restraunt, with chanting, so no customers were going in.
The owner came outside to make a public apology.... and it was as effective as the first apology.

Apologizing actually fanned the flames that are practically burning his restraunt to the ground.

 
Gamer2k4 said:
If there was a nationwide law that banned tipping, that could work. But doing it one restaurant at a time will always fail.
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this is what I meant.

works virtually everywhere else in the world so there is no reason it shouldn't work in Murica.
 
Jack Reacheround said:
Failed.

And isn’t that just basically a way of saying “Discuss without being racist” anyway?
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Mayberry folks behaved. I am not sure why they moved this thread here.
Gamer2k4 said:
If there was a nationwide law that banned tipping, that could work. But doing it one restaurant at a time will always fail.
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The US tried to do it around the 1900s. A few politicians tried to ban it under the premise that it was unamerican.

Tipping actually came from Europe. US had an influx of "free" labor after the civil war. We used tipping to supplement zero wages for non whites.
 
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Fedorgasm said:
Cruise ships are the worst. Every time an employee does their job you're supposed to tip them. What bullshit that was. I spent an extra grand just on tips on that cruise. Haven't gone on one since.
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That's a fair complaint. Things like cruises are meant to only be for rich people, but now they market cruises to regular joes, but the staff expect the regular joe to tip like a millionaire.
 
GearSolidMetal said:
The aftermath from this confrontation is wild.

Needless to say, it went viral.
There was online harassment of the restraunt and its owner, including hundreds of negative reviews on Goggle & Yelp.
The owner made a video apologizing for the incident.
The local black community protested outside his restraunt, with chanting, so no customers were going in.
The owner came outside to make a public apology.... and it was as effective as the first apology.

Apologizing actually fanned the flames that are practically burning his restraunt to the ground.

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Imagine chasing and harassing your customer because you don't pay your employees enough to live.
 
NoSmilez said:


Discuss without making it war room please.
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It's actually an interesting example of how not to deal with someone lile that. They keep backing up which makes him confident, so he keeps coming forward. The second their other friend steps to him, he walks away.
 
GearSolidMetal said:
The aftermath from this confrontation is wild.

Needless to say, it went viral.
There was online harassment of the restraunt and its owner, including hundreds of negative reviews on Goggle & Yelp.
The owner made a video apologizing for the incident.
The local black community protested outside his restraunt, with chanting, so no customers were going in.
The owner came outside to make a public apology.... and it was as effective as the first apology.

Apologizing actually fanned the flames that are practically burning his restraunt to the ground.

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This is going too far, IMO. The guy may have reacted improperly to his customer but he did admit he was at fault and apologized. No need to destroy his life, he thought he was looking out for his employees and just went off the rails.
 
Seano said:
Imagine chasing and harassing your customer because you don't pay your employees enough to live.
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Seano said:
This is going too far, IMO. The guy may have reacted improperly to his customer but he did admit he was at fault and apologized. No need to destroy his life, he thought he was looking out for his employees and just went off the rails.
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Wholeheartedly agree.

Maybe he should have used the N-word and his GoFundMe would have $1 million by now.
 
BlankaPresident said:
The high failure rate is everywhere independent of pay model. It's a harsh business.

I find it really strange that no restaurants in the US decide to raise the prices and the pay of the waiters so there is no need to tip, and advertise as such. The average net bill would be the same anyway. There seems to be enough people annoyed at tipping culture that such tipless places could thrive. Maybe it's an inertia problem.


I for one prefer that way, as long as waiters are polite and ready to answer when called. The american way of waiters ostensibly interrupting, offering stuff all the time and asking if everything is ok is so awkard.

Different culture, hard to judge.
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Actually, there are. Most raise prices above 20%.
 
I don't understand tipping, why I'm giving you extra money for doing your job.
 
MLarson said:
I don't understand tipping, why I'm giving you extra money for doing your job.
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I don't understand the people complaining about not being tipped enough. Like, are you trying to clear 30 bucks an hour?

Maybe most places they don't make enough, which is why they need to start serving at a better restaurant with a higher priced menu, and alcohol being served if possible.
 
Was initially on the customers side as I also feel I shouldn't have to tip if I don't want to and the whole tipping culture is retarded but then I lost any bit of sympathy for them when they just started trying to make it all about race, beyond pathetic. Bunch of cheapskate victimhood addicted losers.
 
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