Another Fake Hate Crime Exposed - what's going on?

[cooks1]

The bigger issue, at least for myself, isn't necessarily the fact that these things are occurring, but the public response to them. Sure, in cases where we have proof that something is false everyone will back away from it, but in those highly suspect cases you're called a racist for even being skeptical.

Agreed. But it depends on how you are skeptical. The ability to be objectively and professionally skeptical is becoming a lost art.

You would not be called a racist for being quietly and internally skeptical. You probably would not even be called a racist for asserting more information is needed. 'Man-that sounds bad-but I think I am going to wait for all the facts before forming any conclusions."

I am not suggesting this is right or fair, but the majority of people who are being considered racist for their skepticism are being what I refer to as 'obnoxiously skeptical'. One of the key traits of an obnoxious skeptic is that they obfuscate the larger, more critical truth (a lot of racism going around) with a smaller, less critical truth (there are some people making shit up). One way to avoid doing this is to acknowledge the larger more critical truth before making your point.

 

[Strychnine]

Dumb people doing dumb stuff.

 

[cooks1]

Odd as I think you've missed the mark almost entirely and you've proven my point. This particular situation was a fake hate crime and this thread was to discuss that particular crime. Instead of doing this you'll do exactly what you did and talk about the "bigger picture" and then blame Trump. Textbook TDS on your part as you can't even discuss a particular incident without blaming Trump...and on top of that you've brought up the entire "what-about-ism" with blaming people on the right. Deflect much?

For the record there's nutjobs and assholes with hearts filled with hate in every single walk of life, creed, race, and religion.

I don't know much about you as a poster, and I'm really not trying to give you any shit, and instead I'm simply calling you out on your silliness in this particular instance. Without tone "blocks of text" can come off as much more crass or rude than intended, which is why I'm writing this bit here. Cheers buddeh

This might have some merit if I made the statement independently in an attempt to hijack or divert the thread. But I didn't do that. It was a response to your comments. And the first thing I did was agree with you and acknowledge that people are creating these hoaxes, and that's wrong.

I find it interesting that only now are you willing to acknowledge that there are plenty of nutters on both sides of the spectrum. Go back and read your first post I replied to and see if you can find even a sliver of that objectivity.

 

[Slick_36]

It's called being an attention whore and there's plenty to go around on both sides of the aisle. They've been around since the dawn of time, the difference right now is social media and a desperate need to confirm that all racism is a hoax.

 

[Alphafail]

People who fake hate crimes should receive harsh punishments imo.

 

[Holic]

Honestly, I don’t think some people (of any race) want a racist free world because they’ve been taught that racism is everywhere and to blame for all of their problems. When there isn’t enough racism to explain your problems away, fabrication is needed. What sucks is it ends up downplaying true racism.

Moreso than that, we actually have people who have built entire careers off racism. Diversity offices, hiring quotas, euro police, hell even online moderators and admins get their money from "fighting racism".

If the racism goes away, these people will lose their jobs. And that is unacceptable.

 

[Momentarylapse]

Typical leftist low iq victimhood.

 

[Holic]

It's called being an attention whore and there's plenty to go around on both sides of the aisle.

When? Where? When was the last time someone on the right lied about being the victim of a politically motivated crime?

 

[ShadowRun]

Because the left and media has turned victims into hero’s and superstars there is a life of power there and racism is the porn buzz

 

[Slick_36]

When? Where? When was the last time someone on the right lied about being the victim of a politically motivated crime?

I don't know, I don't live for finding every example of this to prove my distorted world view like so many on the War Room do. Here's a recent example of it though, so it happens. You also had that guy holding the the gun in St. Louis talking about how he was assaulted on Fox News because people were on his street with signs.

 

[Slick_36]

When? Where? When was the last time someone on the right lied about being the victim of a politically motivated crime?

I guess the most recent example that I saw covered was the woman calling the police saying she was being attacked by a black man because he asked her to leash her dog.

 

[Holic]

I guess the most recent example that I saw covered was the woman calling the police saying she was being attacked by a black man because he asked her to leash her dog.

That was no republican I assure you.

 

[Slick_36]

That was no republican I assure you.

Oh right, you said on the right. My bad. The thing is false reports will look different depending on the race. A black person needs some evidence of a crime, so they have to be more elaborate with their lies and stage something people can see. But people assume black people are guilty until proven innocent, so a white person can make any claim and see results immediately.

One is much easier to verify and report on than the other, so you will see lopsided coverage. The goals are usually different, with white people on the right holding power, they do it to be vindictive where as a black person on the left is doing it for attention or validation. And like I said, you have people who live for confirming their biases and seek out every example of fake racism while ignoring real examples or assuming they're all fake.

 

[Slick_36]

It's a religious experience to be on the receiving end of s hate crime. They are very rare so they have to be manufactured

What's frustrating is I attempt to have a meaningful dialogue about this and the thread goes silent. You post this hyperbolic, hysterical, generalization of a side you oppose and then make a significant claim with absolutely no substance or source. Then everyone else parrots that shit because you guys only want this place to be an echo chamber for your own views.

And the irony is y'all will claim it's the left who are reactionary, it's the left who demonize those who don't fully agree, and it's the left who don't want to engage in a conversation but only want to about their views over others.

 

[usmctanker242]

This might have some merit if I made the statement independently in an attempt to hijack or divert the thread. But I didn't do that. It was a response to your comments. And the first thing I did was agree with you and acknowledge that people are creating these hoaxes, and that's wrong.

I find it interesting that only now are you willing to acknowledge that there are plenty of nutters on both sides of the spectrum. Go back and read your first post I replied to and see if you can find even a sliver of that objectivity.

I just re-read my comment and I don't think your claim has any merit. Show me exactly where it is that you think I was unwilling to admit that both sides have shitty people. This thread is about a fake hate crime (or whatever you want to call it) which was trying to setup white people for leaving nasty flyers on this guys window. Again, I'm talking about this particular incident (even the Reddit thread I mentioned was discussing this incident). In this incident the liberals / dems / progressives want to downplay this and do exactly what you did : deflect with what-about-isms and then blame Trump.

While I definitely lean right I'm not an extremist and I try my best to look at the facts of each incident and judge it accordingly. No doubt that I've made assumptions before (both right and wrong), and again, there's no doubt that I've been highly partisan at times. But I am able to discuss a particular incident and that's exactly what I was doing. In this particular case (read the whole thread) you'll see that just about all the left leaning posters did exactly what you did instead of actually doing what should have been done and denigrated this asshole for his bullshit. Just like I denigrated that stupid woman (cops wife spray painting BLM on her house, false police report about stolen property)...odds are that woman was republican / conservative / right leaning, and I'll still stand here and say she's an idiot and I'm glad she's getting charges pressed against her.

I will add this : props to you for not going straight to name calling or shit slinging. While we may not agree at least we can discuss something civilly and unfortunately that's becoming a lost art.

 

[The Stoat]

I guess the most recent example that I saw covered was the woman calling the police saying she was being attacked by a black man because he asked her to leash her dog.

This NYC female looks like a Democrat voter to me

 

[Slick_36]

This NYC female looks like a Democrat voter to me

What does that even mean? Again, you ignore everything I've said of substance and focus on such inane bullshit.

 

[The Stoat]

What does that even mean? Again, you ignore everything I've said of substance and focus on such inane bullshit.

I wouldn't cite that as an example of a right wing hoax hate crime. This woman is not right wing.

 

[Contra-dictator]

If you repeat a hoax loud enough and long enough.....

 

[n...not crazy]

There's a website that catalogues shit like this. But it'd probably be a hate crime if I linked it. So go find it.