Andy Ruiz JR has whipped himself into incredible shape

[PUO3]

I don't believe that...Body Fat % is 100% genetic related......no way in hell does it all have to do with calories in vs calories out....It simply doesn't , it's being oversimplified.

We all know of people who eat a shitload and are skinny as hell/ or/and muscular.....and they don't work out.....it's genetics.


Yes in general, if you eat less calories than you work, you should lose weight and you will.....but how responsive the bodyfat response is, and how muscular you get, is genetic.


In Andy Ruiz case....IDK, we need to see his whole life history......it seems to me he has been a fatty his whole life...perhaps his diet has been shit his whole life, who knows....or perhaps he really sucks at losing weight even when dieting...Yeah some people's bodies are like that....his body simply doesn't respond well to losing a shitload of bodyfat....it's hard for em to get to super low body fat %.

Bullshit. Genetics determine how many calories your body needs for maintenance. A calorie deficit will ALWAYS result in fat loss, and a calorie surplus will ALWAYS result in fat gain.

This is indisputable. Yes, it comes easier for some. That doesnt change the fact that body fat is determined by how much you eat.

 

[Shoden]

Bullshit. Genetics determine how many calories your body needs for maintenance. A calorie deficit will ALWAYS result in fat loss, and a calorie surplus will ALWAYS result in fat gain.

This is indisputable. Yes, it comes easier for some. That doesnt change the fact that body fat is determined by how much you eat.

You said this

Body fat % will always and forever be purely calories in vs calories out.

This is 100% bullshit.


You make it seem as if all Andy Ruiz has to do is mess with his calories and he will look like anthony joshua.....He won't....He can't get that low in bodyfat percentage and keep that amount of muscle mass like anthony joshua....it simply isn't his genetics.


Body fat % is highly determined on genetics.


A calories deficit would only do so much...he would not get shredded at all.

 

[RDL81]

 

[pakimahi]

well he is no longer immune to bodyshots.

 

[PUO3]

You said this



This is 100% bullshit.


You make it seem as if all Andy Ruiz has to do is mess with his calories and he will look like anthony joshua.....He won't....He can't get that low in bodyfat percentage and keep that amount of muscle mass like anthony joshua....it simply isn't his genetics.


Body fat % is highly determined on genetics.


A calories deficit would only do so much...he would not get shredded at all.

Its a fucking scientific fact man. Its not debatable. Body fat is purely and entirely calories in vs calories out. Thats it. Plain and simple fact.

No one said anything about Ruiz eating less and turning into a greek god bodybuilder physique like AJ. Dont put words in my mouth.

Literally anyone on earth can be shredded. Eat less calories, burn more calories, maintain a low body fat %. That is literally all there is to it.

How easy it is or is not to achieve body fat % is determined by genetics. Not whether or not it can happen. Thats just lazy fucks who want an excuse as to why they cant reach their goals. I know this because I was one of them.

 

[CastletonSnob]

Ruiz is never going to be a chiseled Adonis, but he looks much better now.

 

[codfather]

He said he is 255 lbs at the moment. I doubt that he is lying? What would be the point of lying if he has to step on a scale infront of millions of people anyway?

A month before the Joshua rematch, he claimed to be ~265 lbs, but he ended up weighing in at 284 lbs - that's 19 lbs heavier than he claimed.



The lowest he's weighed in his pro career is 246 lbs, at aged 23.

 

[GordoBarraBJJ]

Give him a chance - by the next fight (after this one coming up) the tainted tacos will kick in.

 

[TheGreatA]

Glad he's taking his career more seriously again. He should be fighting at around 240-250 in my opinion.

I wouldn't propose a radical change because his physique is what it is by now, he's used to it.

 

[Queen B]

I'd actually like to see him in shape. Solid hand movement for a HW

Losing fat doesn't necessarily mean you are in better shape.

And it's also not always smart for HW to lose weight

 

[Shoden]

Its a fucking scientific fact man. Its not debatable. Body fat is purely and entirely calories in vs calories out. Thats it. Plain and simple fact.

No one said anything about Ruiz eating less and turning into a greek god bodybuilder physique like AJ. Dont put words in my mouth.

Literally anyone on earth can be shredded. Eat less calories, burn more calories, maintain a low body fat %. That is literally all there is to it.

How easy it is or is not to achieve body fat % is determined by genetics. Not whether or not it can happen. Thats just lazy fucks who want an excuse as to why they cant reach their goals. I know this because I was one of them.

Again you're oversimplying here.


You're telling me a person with low as fuck testosterone who eats XXXX calories a day and exerts XXXX calories is gonna have the same body composition as a person with high as fuck test with the exact same calories?(assuming age etc are the same as well)...........fuck no....The person with higher test/better genetics is gonna get down to the low bodyfat percentage easy as fuck, the person with lower testatorone is gonna struggle....So it actually does determine whether it not it could happen...Sure you could starve yourself to get shredded but you will be losing muscle mass, only a few people can naturally get super shredded and still keep decent muscle mass.....Not everybody can do that, it's completely dependent on genetics.


Again, for the normie, following the advice of "calories in/Calories out" is gonna make em lose weight.....but they aren't gonna get close to getting shredded/cut easily as you make it seem....They will get in shape, no doubt but they won't get to super low body fat percentages...it's honestly not natural for some people to be that shredded.

Lets use Kelvin as an example....Under a professional nutritionist, dolce, he was in the best shape of his life when he was making welterweight......Dude still wasn't cut, and im sure Dolce was trying to get him as lean as possible....it simply didn't happen(and if it could happen, it wouldn't be easy)....Calories in/Calories out still responded here, obviously Kelvin lost weight but he was no way near close low body fast percentages, and that's genetics....no way is it effort....Im sure Dulce does the same shit with plenty of other fighters, except the other fighters bodies actually get shredded since they respond better to less calories....Kelvin's body doesn't.

It's not healthy for people to walk with super low body fat percentages, some people can pull it off naturally...others can't, if Kelvin seriously tried to keep as much muscle mass as he could while losing as much body fat as he could....his hormones would be fucked up, it honestly wouldn't be that beneficial to him.......However other people's bodies are different and they can be super lean year around with no problems.


inb4 people claim he really is a lightweight so that's why he isn't lean lol.....even if he moved down to Lightweight, I'm sure his body composition will stay about the same or he would lose a shit ton a muscle to reach that unnatural state of leanness which wouldn't benefit him.


So yes you will lose fat....but how effectively/how much fat you lose while keeping muscle, is based on genetics....has nothing to do with will/trying...so how low bodyfat % you can get while keeping muscle, is largely determined by genetics.

 

[treelo]

the title of this should be "Andy Ruiz has trained this time"

he is,and never will be in any sort of decent shape

 

[aries]

Andy Ruiz is cat-fishing us. Photoshop, angles and sucking gut in.

 

[Nova44]

Andy Ruiz is cat-fishing us. Photoshop, angles and sucking gut in.

Forget the video, just look at Ruiz. I hope he's in good shape but he's clearly sucking his gut in.

 

[Ancient Warrior]

Ruiz is definitely sucking his stomach in doing his best impression of a vacuum, but is still in better shape. I’m sure it’s the result of taking a lot of heat from the public for that weight gain in Joshua 2.

 

[RDL81]

If you watch the recent videos of him trianing yiu can see he is in much better shape much more mobile like he was for the first AJ fight.

He is not in BJS shape that’s for sure

 

[PUO3]

Again you're oversimplying here.


You're telling me a person with low as fuck testosterone who eats XXXX calories a day and exerts XXXX calories is gonna have the same body composition as a person with high as fuck test with the exact same calories?(assuming age etc are the same as well)...........fuck no....The person with higher test/better genetics is gonna get down to the low bodyfat percentage easy as fuck, the person with lower testatorone is gonna struggle....So it actually does determine whether it not it could happen...Sure you could starve yourself to get shredded but you will be losing muscle mass, only a few people can naturally get super shredded and still keep decent muscle mass.....Not everybody can do that, it's completely dependent on genetics.


Again, for the normie, following the advice of "calories in/Calories out" is gonna make em lose weight.....but they aren't gonna get close to getting shredded/cut easily as you make it seem....They will get in shape, no doubt but they won't get to super low body fat percentages...it's honestly not natural for some people to be that shredded.

Lets use Kelvin as an example....Under a professional nutritionist, dolce, he was in the best shape of his life when he was making welterweight......Dude still wasn't cut, and im sure Dolce was trying to get him as lean as possible....it simply didn't happen(and if it could happen, it wouldn't be easy)....Calories in/Calories out still responded here, obviously Kelvin lost weight but he was no way near close low body fast percentages, and that's genetics....no way is it effort....Im sure Dulce does the same shit with plenty of other fighters, except the other fighters bodies actually get shredded since they respond better to less calories....Kelvin's body doesn't.

It's not healthy for people to walk with super low body fat percentages, some people can pull it off naturally...others can't, if Kelvin seriously tried to keep as much muscle mass as he could while losing as much body fat as he could....his hormones would be fucked up, it honestly wouldn't be that beneficial to him.......However other people's bodies are different and they can be super lean year around with no problems.


inb4 people claim he really is a lightweight so that's why he isn't lean lol.....even if he moved down to Lightweight, I'm sure his body composition will stay about the same or he would lose a shit ton a muscle to reach that unnatural state of leanness which wouldn't benefit him.


So yes you will lose fat....but how effectively/how much fat you lose while keeping muscle, is based on genetics....has nothing to do with will/trying...so how low bodyfat % you can get while keeping muscle, is largely determined by genetics.

You are literally talking from your ass and you are delusional if you think Ruiz being as fat as he is is beneficial whatsoever.

There is a difference in being shredded and not being morbidly obese.

 

[Boxiana]

Ruiz obviously let himself down badly in the second Joshua fight, but apart from that, what's not to like?

He seems to be an amiable kid, he's not scared to mix it up, fast hands, good technique. Sprinkle on a bit of Renoso fairy dust, and we have a great addition to the HW scene.

 

[thehighking]

Ruiz obviously let himself down badly in the second Joshua fight, but apart from that, what's not to like?

He seems to be an amiable kid, he's not scared to mix it up, fast hands, good technique. Sprinkle on a bit of Renoso fairy dust, and we have a great addition to the HW scene.

I have zero interest in his fights after that disgrace. It's a little hard to even believe that for the biggest fight of his career he didn't even get in fighting shape for it.

 

[Boxiana]

I have zero interest in his fights after that disgrace. It's a little hard to even believe that for the biggest fight of his career he didn't even get in fighting shape for it.

Well, you might miss some fun fights then. Lighten up.