Andrew Tate arrested

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As someone who deep dove into all of this because it bothered me, you sound like someone that only read the title to articles.

This is much deeper than that. It appears to me, anyway, that he did the industry standard for camgirl stuff as a "manager." It also appears to me that he has brought dozens of girls out of poverty basically making them very successful on OF or similar platforms. From all available stuff I can find thus far, it doesn't appear anyone was unwilling or forced into any sort of exploitation, but may have had 'buyers remorse' afterward. At worst, he probably played the fuck boy role. He isn't lying when he says that he has accusers who subsequently got caught bragging about lying about it. What I would say is he flew pretty close to the sun, and the industry standard for a camgirl "manager" means you are manipulative. He's basically the Dana White of cam girls.

But human trafficker? Flol. I dunno, I've dealt with human trafficking victims and traffickers in context to emergency medicine and "rescuing" girls out of really fucked situations, and this seems like a far cry from those types of scenarios. I guess as more available evidence comes out we all have the ability to change our mind with what the govt has to prove their charges.

I agree that this is the most likely scenario. He was basically a fuckboy.

But human trafficking usually means FORCED sexual exploitation. #1 these girls were doing cam work, not prostitution. And (so far) there is no evidence that these girls couldn't just leave.

As for rape and all these other accusations, this is based on anonymous Vice stories. Not credible at all - zero proof. And NOT part of this case. So irrelevant and looks like a media hit job to me.
 
As someone who deep dove into all of this because it bothered me, you sound like someone that only read the title to articles.

This is much deeper than that. It appears to me, anyway, that he did the industry standard for camgirl stuff as a "manager." It also appears to me that he has brought dozens of girls out of poverty basically making them very successful on OF or similar platforms. From all available stuff I can find thus far, it doesn't appear anyone was unwilling or forced into any sort of exploitation, but may have had 'buyers remorse' afterward. At worst, he probably played the fuck boy role. He isn't lying when he says that he has accusers who subsequently got caught bragging about lying about it. What I would say is he flew pretty close to the sun, and the industry standard for a camgirl "manager" means you are manipulative. He's basically the Dana White of cam girls.

But human trafficker? Flol. I dunno, I've dealt with human trafficking victims and traffickers in context to emergency medicine and "rescuing" girls out of really fucked situations, and this seems like a far cry from those types of scenarios. I guess as more available evidence comes out we all have the ability to change our mind with what the govt has to prove their charges.

Agreed. The trial will be interesting to follow.

Tate seemed mostly all bravado talk, but a hustler behind the scenes. Doing the scummy work for the wannabe cam girls. How many of these girls really want to message losers all day to increase engagement and keep them on the subscriber list.

Just hire some loser dude to take care of the correspondence, then bring in the girls to video and take photos to keep them on the hook. Seemed like a win win... but definitely scummy to the max.

But the Porn industry has been far scummier for 50+ years. And that's right in Liberal central's backyard of LA. And it's still rolling along.

There's always a massive market of loser dudes desparate for a little attention and porn. And guys like Tate provide it with the help of willing girls. Yes, its gross.

But when girls like Bhad Babie are pulling $4 million per year on OF.... Seriously, WTF. I don't get it either.

Anyway, I guess we'll see in this trial if Tate and his brother went too far. While I found him just entertaining... I never took anything he said seriously... if he did physcially restrain and abuse women while pushing his OF business, send the two away for a few decades. No loss.

But then again, maybe he's right and they're fabricating shit to come after him because of history. I think Mike Geragos's firm is involved in his trial? Dude is a top notch legal hound. He's reps Cain and Mike Tyson and several other high profile clients. He has a podcast and his insights are extremely interesting. I'm sure this week he'll have some opinions.
 
Yea it's their right to quickly judge. Doesn't mean I have to like or accept it.



I didn't say they should be sent to jail. I believe in innocent until proven guilty.

Well then that's all there is to say. That was my whole point. Keep the same energy with everyone and don't be a hypocrite.
 
Cliffs? No fucker is reading that.
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Looks like he got indicted for rape and human trafficking. He was a week away from when the 6 months period of being held would have expired.

Romanian prosecutors on Tuesday said they were sending controversial influencer Andrew Tate to trial on charges of trafficking, rape, and forming a criminal gang to sexually exploit women.

The former kickboxer, who has millions of online followers, has been in detention or under house arrest in Romania since last December.

Tate's brother Tristan and two female Romanian suspects face similar allegations.

https://www.dw.com/en/andrew-tate-indicted-on-human-trafficking-rape-charges-in-romania/a-65972487?
interesting. let's see how it goes
 
As someone who deep dove into all of this because it bothered me, you sound like someone that only read the title to articles.

This is much deeper than that. It appears to me, anyway, that he did the industry standard for camgirl stuff as a "manager." It also appears to me that he has brought dozens of girls out of poverty basically making them very successful on OF or similar platforms. From all available stuff I can find thus far, it doesn't appear anyone was unwilling or forced into any sort of exploitation, but may have had 'buyers remorse' afterward. At worst, he probably played the fuck boy role. He isn't lying when he says that he has accusers who subsequently got caught bragging about lying about it. What I would say is he flew pretty close to the sun, and the industry standard for a camgirl "manager" means you are manipulative. He's basically the Dana White of cam girls.

But human trafficker? Flol. I dunno, I've dealt with human trafficking victims and traffickers in context to emergency medicine and "rescuing" girls out of really fucked situations, and this seems like a far cry from those types of scenarios. I guess as more available evidence comes out we all have the ability to change our mind with what the govt has to prove their charges.

my brother, even his own quotes are enough to go "no, probably not a good idea to be on the side of that guy"
Ive gone down the rabbit holes. give the episodes of Behind The Bastards about him a listen.
Where theres smoke theres fire and it looks like its coming in a big way

even his old website has his quotes of "my job is to make girls for in love with me then force them to do cam work" and the like.

thats already being called romeo trafficing/explotation
 
my brother, even his own quotes are enough to go "no, probably not a good idea to be on the side of that guy"
Ive gone down the rabbit holes. give the episodes of Behind The Bastards about him a listen.
Where theres smoke theres fire and it looks like its coming in a big way

even his old website has his quotes of "my job is to make girls for in love with me then force them to do cam work" and the like.

thats already being called romeo trafficing/explotation
He must not have dug too deep because it’s been post in this thread many times what he’s accused of and evidence supporting it.

I will say that yeah it’s kinda on the lighter side of human trafficking and I wouldn’t lump it in with the truly horrific stuff that goes on. Doesn’t mean what he does isn’t bad though and doesn’t deserve prison time.
 
yup. still makes him a scum and someone we never should have made into some kind of celeb
 
I do think he's probably guilty of some tax shit and also being shady ripping the girls off a bit.

He said in a video he would take off some off the top of the girls money and claimed to them it was taxes. But then didn't pay the taxes or something like that. Not sure if that was exactly what he said, but it was something along those lines.
 
I agree that this is the most likely scenario. He was basically a fuckboy.

But human trafficking usually means FORCED sexual exploitation. #1 these girls were doing cam work, not prostitution. And (so far) there is no evidence that these girls couldn't just leave.

As for rape and all these other accusations, this is based on anonymous Vice stories. Not credible at all - zero proof. And NOT part of this case. So irrelevant and looks like a media hit job to me.

Sounds like what happened to Harvey.
 
I do think he's probably guilty of some tax shit and also being shady ripping the girls off a bit.

He said in a video he would take off some off the top of the girls money and claimed to them it was taxes. But then didn't pay the taxes or something like that. Not sure if that was exactly what he said, but it was something along those lines.

He also said he had a bottom bitch and explained how he'd lure girls into sex work who'd never done it before so he's definitely a scumbag, whether he stayed on the legal side of being a scumbag remains to be seen.
 
this guy hit the nerves of people in big places. or was planed all along. make him be popular and fame and make people follow his every move and then when people are on that brink of he is main stream to these people that followed him they played joke on them and say this guy is a fraud and all the build up fame you went through to make him big is all for nothing
 
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