Andrew Tate arrested

[Blayt7hh]

So my problem with this moral grandstanding of 'innocent until proven guilty' is that nobody who says it can stick to it consistently.

The thing about that too is that it doesn't mean you can't have an opinion on the matter. It's a legal standard, not a rule about how you have to have conversations on the internet by. So really that complaint only matters if they convicted him solely based on internet outrage.

For example, if a person was on the jury that thought he was guilty they could still vote him innocent if there is doubt. "I think he did it but there was still some reasonable doubt".

This whole saga has cracked me up watching people bend over backwards to defend him. The guy has been bragging about whats he does online for years. Now some people come forward and say he did in fact do those things he says he does, and they find it hard to believe. Ive had people tell me in here that he was just lying to impress people and those women are trying to get a paycheck. Fascinating what people will tell themselves so they're shitty beliefs aren't challenged.

 

[Mack Yancy]

Brackis/Queen Bee

What's that? Some kind of callsign?

 

[Hog-train]

People who say that are so selective with who they apply that to.

People were convinced (me included) that R Kelly was guilty before he was charged and convicted. 95% of Sherdog and the rest of the world were convinced Harvey Weinstein was guilty before he was charged and convicted. And you, @$uperman @deadshot138 are all convinced Hunter Biden is guilty even though he hasn't been convicted.

So my problem with this moral grandstanding of 'innocent until proven guilty' is that nobody who says it can stick to it consistently.

Yah that's because R Kelly and Weinstein were so obviously guilty and had been getting away with it. Those are extremes. With tons of evidence.

This case is not obvious. No tons of evidence and not even charges for months.

So why is everyone so quick to automatically condemn? Because it's selective outrage based on a personality contest.

Or because it fits an agenda or the person represents an ideology.

-Prime example - Amber Heard vs Johnny Depp. Every single media outlet were shitting on him, every organization and media outlet was against him. Every company stopped deals with him. Because Metoo was in vogue.

COMPLETELY ignored evidence. All the audio tapes that showed in trial Amber Heard was an abusive maniac was already widely available on Youtube for years.

 

[Morning Star]

I don’t disagree but you can’t argue it’s equal

He definitely exploits insecure men and it's pretty sad, but nothing compared to exploiting women into sex work.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

Looks like he got indicted for rape and human trafficking. He was a week away from when the 6 months period of being held would have expired.

Romanian prosecutors on Tuesday said they were sending controversial influencer Andrew Tate to trial on charges of trafficking, rape, and forming a criminal gang to sexually exploit women.

The former kickboxer, who has millions of online followers, has been in detention or under house arrest in Romania since last December.

Tate's brother Tristan and two female Romanian suspects face similar allegations.

https://www.dw.com/en/andrew-tate-indicted-on-human-trafficking-rape-charges-in-romania/a-65972487?

 

[clutchCAT420]

Good f them let them rot.

 

[Plastikman_Eire]

"Oh dear, how sad, never mind"

 

[tastaylvr]

Yah that's because R Kelly and Weinstein were so obviously guilty and had been getting away with it. Those are extremes. With tons of evidence.

This case is not obvious. No tons of evidence and not even charges for months.

So why is everyone so quick to automatically condemn? Because it's selective outrage based on a personality contest.

Or because it fits an agenda or the person represents an ideology.

-Prime example - Amber Heard vs Johnny Depp. Every single media outlet were shitting on him, every organization and media outlet was against him. Every company stopped deals with him. Because Metoo was in vogue.

COMPLETELY ignored evidence. All the audio tapes that showed in trial Amber Heard was an abusive maniac was already widely available on Youtube for years.

You understand that reputation is a thing right? People are quick to judge because it is their right. That's how public opinion works. It has no relevance to the court of law.

Johnny Depp can be found innocent and those companies that stopped dealing with him can still feel right. They have no obligation to work with him. This is how the world works.

 

[deadshot138]

What's that? Some kind of callsign?

I'm sure one of them is your screen name before getting banned

 

[fingercuffs]

Even his detractors must admit, the guy can move!

Who the fuck is that? Hahaha.

 

[fingercuffs]

Do you know what the thing is brav, the guy is part serious, part satirical character and the thing I found the most interesting is how most people appearantly aren’t able to discern what’s satiric and what isn’t.

I like some of those “red pill” content creators because listening to their videos makes me want to get up off my ass and work, whether it’s for my business or hitting the gym. Some would mock that it takes this type of content (instead of let’s say a father figure or support group) to produce that effect, but inspiration is inspiration, the source of it is irrelevant.

Most people in society will BLINDLY follow the opinions of the masses and their social circle because of their ever present desire for acceptance within the group. With, I’d say, 85% of the people in my own social circle I would be unable to discuss Tate or related topics because it will trigger either an emotional response, an intellectually dishonest argument, or just a blatant repetition of what the world has told them the socially acceptable answer to be.

That includes most people in this thread. It’s just utter laziness. Most responses here are “I don’t know Tate but I’ve seen clips on Youtube and based on that I don’t like the guy” yes of fucking course, the 15 second video’s of him saying outlandish shit are designed to create that very response.

and the very same people will then bash the younger generation for being soft, weak, emotional and feminine in a diferrent thread. It’s one big clown show

Cliffs? No fucker is reading that.

 

[Chesten_Hesten]

Who the fuck is that? Hahaha.

He's the guy who impersonates Andrew Tate They were ragging Tate about it in the Interview previously posted.

 

[fingercuffs]

He's the guy who impersonates Andrew Tate They were ragging Tate about it in the Interview previously posted.

You know I don't watch videos, lovely.

 

[Deleted member 585708]

His entire business was scamming men. He used camgirls to trick unsuspecting men (who thought they were starting a relationship) into giving him their money. Most of the time the mark was talking to Tate or some other male, not a camgirl. He talked about this at length. This isn't even getting into Hustler's University. He will take advantage of anyone for profit. It isn't gender specific.

I wonder how many different scams and how many different ways of mistreating people he's perpetrated throughout his life.

He seems like utter trash, but I suppose we'll never know to what extent.

 

[Mack Yancy]

I'm sure one of them is your screen name before getting banned

Sounds like projection, I'm not on here memorising names like you. Maybe you don't have much else going on.

 

[Mack Yancy]

Yah that's because R Kelly and Weinstein were so obviously guilty and had been getting away with it. Those are extremes. With tons of evidence.

You don't get to just change the rules when you feel like it. They were innocent until proven guilty. Either that means something or it doesn't.

 

[Hog-train]

You understand that reputation is a thing right? People are quick to judge because it is their right. That's how public opinion works. It has no relevance to the court of law.

Yea it's their right to quickly judge. Doesn't mean I have to like or accept it.

You don't get to just change the rules when you feel like it. They were innocent until proven guilty. Either that means something or it doesn't.

I didn't say they should be sent to jail. I believe in innocent until proven guilty.

I was complaining about quite the opposite - how these days people automatically assign guilty based on 1 line social media posts. People seem to love jumping to conclusions based on their preconceived biases and automatically cancelling people these days. Can't stand that shit.

 

[Crawler89]

Andrew Tate and his history and his own quotes kinda makes you look bad if your defending or saying "I just dunno bro!'

Amazing

 

[Blayt7hh]

Looks like he got indicted for rape and human trafficking. He was a week away from when the 6 months period of being held would have expired.

Romanian prosecutors on Tuesday said they were sending controversial influencer Andrew Tate to trial on charges of trafficking, rape, and forming a criminal gang to sexually exploit women.

The former kickboxer, who has millions of online followers, has been in detention or under house arrest in Romania since last December.

Tate's brother Tristan and two female Romanian suspects face similar allegations.

https://www.dw.com/en/andrew-tate-indicted-on-human-trafficking-rape-charges-in-romania/a-65972487?

 

[Poatan Power]

Andrew Tate and his history and his own quotes kinda makes you look bad if your defending or saying "I just dunno bro!'

Amazing

As someone who deep dove into all of this because it bothered me, you sound like someone that only read the title to articles.

This is much deeper than that. It appears to me, anyway, that he did the industry standard for camgirl stuff as a "manager." It also appears to me that he has brought dozens of girls out of poverty basically making them very successful on OF or similar platforms. From all available stuff I can find thus far, it doesn't appear anyone was unwilling or forced into any sort of exploitation, but may have had 'buyers remorse' afterward. At worst, he probably played the fuck boy role. He isn't lying when he says that he has accusers who subsequently got caught bragging about lying about it. What I would say is he flew pretty close to the sun, and the industry standard for a camgirl "manager" means you are manipulative. He's basically the Dana White of cam girls.

But human trafficker? Flol. I dunno, I've dealt with human trafficking victims and traffickers in context to emergency medicine and "rescuing" girls out of really fucked situations, and this seems like a far cry from those types of scenarios. I guess as more available evidence comes out we all have the ability to change our mind with what the govt has to prove their charges.