Anderson Silva pro boxing debut

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he looks decent, but his handspeed is unimpressive by boxing standards. if he keeps at it, he might someday work his way up to the undercard of wednesday night fights.
 
For some comedic relief. Check out what this guy said in an MMA forum.

"Man that is awesome. His foot work was really good and his head movement and dodging was as good as some of the best boxers I've seen. You gotta consider that for not training only in boxing and fighting guys who thats all they do is a big accomplishment in my book even if the guy wasn't Oscar or Roy Jones. Shows he is an athlete. Good find..."

Are people really this stupid?
 
uppercuts21 said:
For some comedic relief. Check out what this guy said in an MMA forum.

"Man that is awesome. His foot work was really good and his head movement and dodging was as good as some of the best boxers I've seen. You gotta consider that for not training only in boxing and fighting guys who thats all they do is a big accomplishment in my book even if the guy wasn't Oscar or Roy Jones. Shows he is an athlete. Good find..."

Are people really this stupid?
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yes...yes they are..

His movement was good off the punch..

But he threw looping punches, lacked speed, and any real semblance of defense after he let go of his hands..

He is a great MMA striker, but as a boxer....eh..
 
Regime said:
You boxing elitists are annoiyng morons, criticzing an MMA fighter for crossing over sports and looking good at it. We havent seen your precious Mayweather cross yet? RJJ said he wants no part of MMA.

Yeah, Anderson would destroy any of your precious boxers in a REAL fight. So keep criticizing you morons
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Real fight? MMA is a "REAL" fight. A sport that does not allow kicks on the ground, eye gouging, smothering, rabbit punches, fish hooks, that has rounds, judges, refs, crowds, predetermined environments, gameplans, opponents and has 4oz gloves, mouthguards etc is NOT a REAL fight. Ive never seen a fight end in an omoplata or have 15 minutes of lay and pray. Nor have I seen a real fight where a fighter (Gabriel Gonzaga) was allowed to recover due to a bloody face. Nor have I seen a REAL fight where a fighter was warned multiple times for eye pokes (Kevin Burns).

In fact, Randy Couture MMA's poster boy himself said in a REAL fight he'd do his BEST to keep the fight standing to avoid going to the ground. You're talking about a guy whos predominantly a wrestler. And even he wants to avoid scraping up his knees, elbows etc. It was Royce Gracie himself who said that BJJ may not be the most practical form of fighting in a REAL fight. Going to the ground in a real fight may leave you vulnerable towards others or the surface may not be tailored to ground fighting ie. pavement etc. REAL fights dont take place on comfortable little mats at an MMA gym nor do they take place in a huge octagon. REAL fights are UNPREDICTABLE and spontaneous without predetermined opponents, gameplans, opponents, rules and environments.

So please get off your MMA pedestal and enter the real world.

Silva looked good but not great. And against a handpicked mediocre boxer he should have looked spectacular. The bottom line is his footwork was mediocre, his jabs, rights looked awkward and he was wide open for counters. A good boxer would have exploited that weakness. Even this boxer making his debut managed to land a few clean shots to the cranium of your almighty Anderson Silva.
 
Zodiak_Killer said:
Wow, people seriously think that display would put RJJ in trouble?
He looks slow, sloppy, and too scared to fully engage and put all his power into shots.
Looked more like a guy trying to imitate a boxer than really be one.
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Well, to be fair, he was trying to imitate RJJ. Hes a huge fan, and it was pretty obvious when he did that winding thing with his right hand.
And I would say he is definitely a proficient boxer. Not gonna beat RJJ or even be a prospect, but he doesnt look like a guy they got off of the street either.
 
as a boxer, he's not that good. As for the MMA junky thats getting all sour because no one here is licking his nuts over his boxing. Deal with it. It was Boxing not MMA, good for him for giving it a shot and I hope he does well but if he does not get a lot better at it he's not going to.
 
And let me clarify one thing. MMA is obviously the least limited combat sport in the world. Silva would clearly beat RJJ in MMA as would RJJ defeat Silva in boxing.

But in terms of a "REAL" fight I couldnt care less. I think its pointless to talk about. There are just too many variables and unknowns in a real fight that I never get into these hypothetical scenarios.
 
Regime said:
Why dont you? Show some fucking respect to a guy who crossed over sports. Instead of criticizing him, while at the sametime praising a bunch of pussies who wont even dare to look at MMA.

Show some respect. If t was stand up with no rules, Anderson would knee every boxer into an obliviion. Thank Anderson for obiding by the rules and not embrassing boxers.

THANK HIM
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Ironically enough, the style to beat Anderson in MMA will most likely have to be a boxer.

You are easily one of the biggest trolls I have ever seen. Go back to the heavies knucklehead.
 
Boxing is Boxing, MMA is MMA, every other day we get people try to compare the sports,I prefer boxing, but that doesn't mean i can't be a fan of MMA as well, they are both tough sports with tough fighters. But its not a real fight, people need to stop saying real fight, in a real fight there's no ref no gloves, no rules, and no quarter. Why can't people accept that boxing and mma are combat SPORTS.
 
XiaolinSoldier said:
Well, to be fair, he was trying to imitate RJJ. Hes a huge fan, and it was pretty obvious when he did that winding thing with his right hand.
And I would say he is definitely a proficient boxer. Not gonna beat RJJ or even be a prospect, but he doesnt look like a guy they got off of the street either.
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Yeah, I kinda took back what I said later. I have to admit that Im in a bit of a pissy mood so a lot of the stuff I said is unfair....he's not a bad boxer, just def. no where near the top of the heap.
I saw that he was immitating RJJ, just RJJ could do that style cause his reflexes and speed were so fast. He could sit there with his hands down and showboat and do that stuff cause he was trying to bait his opponent into attacking so he could counter.
Silva doesn't have the speed or reflexes or coordination to pull off a style that difficult.

To be honest, with his long limbs and his good chin (although not sure how it'll translate to boxing) I think he'd benifit by taking a much more straight ahead preassure approach. He could get around his speed problem by using volume instead, and hopefully the pressure he uses could mitigate some of his defensive shortcomings.
He had a tendancy to sit and wait for his opponent to come forward, and seemed to sit there waiting for something to happen which is really bad as it gives the opponent opportunity to act. I suppose he was waiting for a counter but insteadhe had a tendancy to back straight up into the ropes once attacked.
He also seemed to not sit down on his punches properly which seemed to mitigate some of his power (maybe I'm seeing things tho....). It might be fear of getting hit in return but some of his attacks just seemed timid to me.
I know this fight was a gimme meant to hype him a bit, but in terms of boxing he really needs to rework his style to get the most benifit from his body.
 
put him up against Zab Judah....

Zab could use a high profile win.
 
Slow hands and no power. I can't believe people actually think he can beat RJ
 
He took the biggest punch of the match after his little showboating jig.

I think his loss would tell us more about how a 3rd match in boxing, against an all-time great, would go - if anyone has a link to that.
 
Real fight? MMA is a "REAL" fight. A sport that does not allow kicks on the ground, eye gouging, smothering, rabbit punches, fish hooks, that has rounds, judges, refs, crowds, predetermined environments, gameplans, opponents and has 4oz gloves, mouthguards etc is NOT a REAL fight. Ive never seen a fight end in an omoplata or have 15 minutes of lay and pray. Nor have I seen a real fight where a fighter (Gabriel Gonzaga) was allowed to recover due to a bloody face. Nor have I seen a REAL fight where a fighter was warned multiple times for eye pokes (Kevin Burns).

In fact, Randy Couture MMA's poster boy himself said in a REAL fight he'd do his BEST to keep the fight standing to avoid going to the ground. You're talking about a guy whos predominantly a wrestler. And even he wants to avoid scraping up his knees, elbows etc. It was Royce Gracie himself who said that BJJ may not be the most practical form of fighting in a REAL fight. Going to the ground in a real fight may leave you vulnerable towards others or the surface may not be tailored to ground fighting ie. pavement etc. REAL fights dont take place on comfortable little mats at an MMA gym nor do they take place in a huge octagon. REAL fights are UNPREDICTABLE and spontaneous without predetermined opponents, gameplans, opponents, rules and environments.
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Let me first say two things: One, I was a boxing fan before an MMA fan and will always be one -- I am in no way attacking the sport. And two, I fully acknowledge the obvious fact that RJJ would tear up Silva in a boxing ring, and Silva would choke RJJ in a cage.

I know this has been done to death a lot of times before, but I'm surprised to see that it seems many boxing fans here still seem to be denying that MMA is a much closer simulation to a "real fight" than boxing. Isn't it obvious that MMA, even with its sanctioning and the rules that come along with it, is a much more "free" platform/environment for a fight to take place than a boxing ring?

If the excess of rules are really what prevents you from considering combat in a controlled setting to be a "real fight", isn't it logical to consider a boxing fight to be a worse representation than an MMA fight? After all, isn't a boxing fight essentially an MMA fight with no kicks, no takedowns, no elbows, bigger gloves, shorter/more rounds, etc.? So do you consider the early UFCs to be an even more accurate representation of a "real fight" because of the absence of time limits, weight classes, etc.? I take it you must have been a fan of RioHeroes...

I fail to see what difference there would be if an elite-level boxer and an elite-level MMA fighter agreed to meet somewhere and fight on their own rather than in a controlled setting? Wouldn't the ultimate outcome be the same?

If you saw a video of an elite MMA fighter getting jumped by 5 people in an alley and beaten up, or a bottle being broken on their head, or blindsided with a punch from behind, would you consider their defeat an indication of their fighting ability? No. However, if it was one-on-one with no weapons, would you doubt the best MMA fighter would win in any given reasonable setting against almost anybody?

I just can't seem to grasp why many boxing fans seem to take offense to having their P4P Kings deemed as the best boxers in the world, while MMA's P4P kings as the best fighters in the world.

We should be able to enjoy both sports for what they are, not criticize them.
 
beatjnkie said:
Let me first say two things: One, I was a boxing fan before an MMA fan and will always be one -- I am in no way attacking the sport. And two, I fully acknowledge the obvious fact that RJJ would tear up Silva in a boxing ring, and Silva would choke RJJ in a cage.

I know this has been done to death a lot of times before, but I'm surprised to see that it seems many boxing fans here still seem to be denying that MMA is a much closer simulation to a "real fight" than boxing. Isn't it obvious that MMA, even with its sanctioning and the rules that come along with it, is a much more "free" platform/environment for a fight to take place than a boxing ring?

If the excess of rules are really what prevents you from considering combat in a controlled setting to be a "real fight", isn't it logical to consider a boxing fight to be a worse representation than an MMA fight? After all, isn't a boxing fight essentially an MMA fight with no kicks, no takedowns, no elbows, bigger gloves, shorter/more rounds, etc.? So do you consider the early UFCs to be an even more accurate representation of a "real fight" because of the absence of time limits, weight classes, etc.? I take it you must have been a fan of RioHeroes...

I fail to see what difference there would be if an elite-level boxer and an elite-level MMA fighter agreed to meet somewhere and fight on their own rather than in a controlled setting? Wouldn't the ultimate outcome be the same?

If you saw a video of an elite MMA fighter getting jumped by 5 people in an alley and beaten up, or a bottle being broken on their head, or blindsided with a punch from behind, would you consider their defeat an indication of their fighting ability? No. However, if it was one-on-one with no weapons, would you doubt the best MMA fighter would win in any given reasonable setting against almost anybody?

I just can't seem to grasp why many boxing fans seem to take offense to having their P4P Kings deemed as the best boxers in the world, while MMA's P4P kings as the best fighters in the world.

We should be able to enjoy both sports for what they are, not criticize them.
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He would kick him, elbow him, choke him, etc. Now im gonna be harsh on boxing, since these idiots are harsh on a guy who crosses over sports.

RJJ can only beat Anderson by a punch.

Anderson can beat RJJ by knees, standing elbows, or any type of submission.

Who is the superior fighter?

Respect pro fighters you key board warriors. You guys cant criticize anybody, because you guys would never be able to wipe A silvas ass. You can continue to be bitter that Anderson can do two sports, while boxers stay clear of MMA.

Stay here in the boxing forum. Stay in your little inferior corner criticizing real fighters.

Im gonna go back to the HW's.

Peace.
 
unbiased here


arturo gatti and carlos baldomir would both beat anderson silva despite the fact they would be close to 30 pounds under him.

zab judah would kill silva in a boxing match.

in mma i actually think silva throws better punches in an mma match, in boxing, he seems to hang his punchesout too long after he lands.

silva has good foot work for a non boxer, decent ability to string punches together, but to go against anyone in elite level for up to 30 pounds lower than 185, i think he loses.
 
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