Media Anderson Silva or MVP…. Who has better striking?

[chillyoo]

Silva KO’d TRT Belfort like it was nothing.

MVP is good and all but he’s 38 if he was anything close to Anderson we would know by now.

That fight would also be awful to watch

 

[chillyoo]

So was Anderson
And he wasnt fighting that version that took Bisping's eye,and KO'd Luke and Hendo
That was TRTor

False.

Can’t assume Anderson was without proof. His failure was much later and after the surgery.

Vitor had the TRT exemption and had won 5 in a row, lost once in 8 fights to Anderson that was absolutely TRT Belfort. You’re timeline is either way off or you’re trolling some BS.

 

[MMACro]

False.

Can’t assume Anderson was without proof. His failure was much later and after the surgery.

Vitor had the TRT exemption and had won 5 in a row, lost once in 8 fights to Anderson that was absolutely TRT Belfort. You’re timeline is either way off or you’re trolling some BS.

It wasnt trtor that faced andy.You can literally see his looks thaz fight and vs the ones i mentioned
And Silva absolutely abused roids,just in that time testing was shit.Open your eyes buddeh

 

[djacobox372]

Better comparison for MVP is Machida... Silva was better than both of them.

 

[Doctor Grudge]

MVP has 13 (T)KOs on his record. Saying b has no finishing power is kind of wild.

Yeah...I mean nearly every boxer has a bunch of KOs on their record too.

Obviously when people talk about KO power you have to take into account competition. Do you think that term literally means MVP is incapable of knocking out someone?

MVP has only been able to knock out regional and local level fighters. He cannot knock out actual guys. What is kind of wild is actually watching MVP hit guys over and over again for the last 10 years and thinking he has finishing power.

 

[BFoe]

Yeah...I mean nearly every boxer has a bunch of KOs on their record too.

Obviously when people talk about KO power you have to take into account competition. Do you think that term literally means MVP is incapable of knocking out someone?

MVP has only been able to knock out regional and local level fighters. He cannot knock out actual guys. What is kind of wild is actually watching MVP hit guys over and over again for the last 10 years and thinking he has finishing power.

Then it sounds like those boxers have finishing power. No finishing power doesn’t really lend itself to finishes.

Saying fighters are too high level to be caught by him isn’t the same thing at all as saying he’s got no finishing power. More than half of his wins are due to stoppage by strikes. All 13 of his opponents just had bad chins?

 

[HHJ]

For like 2 fights Anderson Silva did that. What you're saying has described the way MVP has fought for most of his career, not Anderson Silva.

MVP never "almost murdered" anyone (which opponent are you referring to?). There is really no comparison in terms of power, finishing, and killer instinct. Anderson Silva has finished nearly every opponent he ever fought in the UFC until he lost to Chris Weidman.

MVP has not finished a single one - and his best wins in Bellator were close decisions also.

Anderson is a more varied striker and has incredibly high finishing ability. MVP is more one dimensional and has very little finishing ability. Their skills, build, reflex, and speed are comparable but those other factors put it pretty easily in Silva. Proof is kind of in the pudding, no? Silva is one of the GOATs, MVP is not.

three fights in his legendary title run were like that.

After losing to Weidman he sort of reverted to that style for the remainder of his career, which is alot of fights. That's how he lasted though. He would lose fights but avoid taking alot of damage because he always can fool people into having something when he really didnt anymore. Master of deception.

 

[HHJ]

Yeah...I mean nearly every boxer has a bunch of KOs on their record too.

Obviously when people talk about KO power you have to take into account competition. Do you think that term literally means MVP is incapable of knocking out someone?

MVP has only been able to knock out regional and local level fighters. He cannot knock out actual guys. What is kind of wild is actually watching MVP hit guys over and over again for the last 10 years and thinking he has finishing power.

It doesnt seem like he can knock people out with his lunging punch that he primarily uses.

He can stun with it but he rarely follows up even when he does.

Of COURSE he can knock people out with his flying knees. Regional or whatever if he lands that solid, he can knock you out.

Anyone can knock people out with a high kick or flying knee. Even a badly thrown one.

People are primarily fixated on punching power. Because thats the most important thing to have. If you have natural punching power, the kind that lasts even when you are tired, than that makes you extremely dangerous every second of the fight.

 

[HHJ]

Neither.
As told by Silva himself, prime Machida would always outstrike him.

I think that is a more of a style vs style thing rathe than who is "better"

But yeah Machida is probably faster than Anderson, and has more experience fighting better competition than the MW division had in Anderson's time also.

 

[HHJ]

MVP is good at what he does, the shifty movement with swift kicks and counter punches.

Silva is so diverse and dynamic he can do the same but much better boxing, better pure muay thai, plenty of flashy kicks, knees, elbows, in the clinch or firmly planted feet, high flying etc. I could go on. There is no one like him.

I just feel like Anderson in his prime, knew the precise moment to land the kill shot.

MVP spends way too much time baiting people but really not showing anything for it.

Its all more show than go

 

[markantony20]

aggressive for fighting and getting batterd for 5 rounds
meanwhile anderson who isnt aggresive
going up at LHW and knocking fools out?
and can finish fights

a feat that gsp wont do in his prime

Such a salty GSP hater you are

 

[chillyoo]

It wasnt trtor that faced andy.You can literally see his looks thaz fight and vs the ones i mentioned
And Silva absolutely abused roids,just in that time testing was shit.Open your eyes buddeh

Vitor was on medical TRT in Brazil in 2011 when he fought Anderson. Easy to source.

the rest of your post is your opinion without any resources backing its legitimacy.

 

[Lee Danger]

That's true, but that was a really long time ago, and not really indicitive of finishing ability. Also, Cyborg was a can at that point.

what's the point here?
in comparison Silva last dominating win was before Weidman's first loss...

 

[Lee Danger]

They were unhappy about all three fights (though I remember the Cote fight getting the least criticism) and were openly wondering if Silva was trying to get stripped of the belt so he could leave or if he was trying to pressure the UFC into paying him more money. People were absolutely making the argument that a GOAT wouldn't need to rely on the other fighter to fight the way they want.

The Cote's fight got the least criticism because Cote got injuried and the fight ended in the first minute of the third round.
Leites and Maia are two of the most unwatchable fights in history, in comparison Quarry Starnes was at least funny in some moments.

 

[don't ask]

The Cote's fight got the least criticism because Cote got injuried and the fight ended in the first minute of the third round.
Leites and Maia are two of the most unwatchable fights in history, in comparison Quarry Starnes was at least funny in some moments.

Riiiiiight, that rings a bell. I forgot about the injury. It's wild that the pushback against him was so huge and it's basically forgotten now.

 

[OmegaRugal]

Neither.
As told by Silva himself, prime Machida would always outstrike him.

Hard to believe. Silva seems like a nightmare match up for Machida. Granite chin with height, length advantage, also power advantage in his strikes I would say.

Silva on paper stylistically should KO machida 9 out of 10 times worse than Shogun did.

 

[lefthighkick01]

I cant really put anyone Above a prime Anderson and havent been able to for a long time even though MVP was impressive.

Just that no ones been able to do what Anderson's done as far as striking goes in MMA

 

[orca]

Such a salty GSP hater you are

pointing facts makes you a hater
ok im sorry