And why exactly Britain got an issue with EU immigrants?

[snakedafunky]

Assuming it will be a hard Brexit. I am just wondering how the UK wants to fulfil all the positions taking up by EU migrants.
Those are often jobs Native people don't want to do. And some of them are important especially in elderly care or nursing etc.
Those Polish, Bulgarian etc. are needed workers in countries like UK, Germany, Sweden etc.
Because they come trained in the field and rich countries struggle to fill in healthcare or patient care position even with all the EU immigrants already.
Because its a relatively low paying job but with long and unusually hours.

But yeah I guess now 50 year old Alan from Swansea who is an alcoholic and unemployed for 20 years can get a job as a nurse.
Taking the UK back.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Muslims get into EU.

Muslims decide to move from EU country to UK.

No, that's according to Brits.

Really.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/364176/7-5-million-migrants-live-in-Britain

7.5 million migrants live in Britain (*2012 article)

There were also calls for the UK to withdraw from the European Union in an [sic] bid to regain control of our own borders.

https://www.alaraby.co.uk/english/b...bad-because-it-doesnt-stop-muslim-immigration

Blair: Brexit is bad because...it doesn't stop Muslim immigration

"There is, in some parts of the country, a genuine concern about numbers from Europe - real pressures on services and wages. But for many people, the core of the immigration question... is immigration from non-European countries, especially when from different cultures in which assimilation and potential security threats can be an issue."

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/eu-referendum-muslims_uk_576e558ce4b08d2c563937ff

Leave Voter Admits He Voted To ‘Stop Muslims Coming Into The UK’

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/76...ld-trump-muslim-travel-ban-extreme-vetting-uk

Nigel Farage calls for 'extreme vetting' in Britain as he BACKS Trump's travel ban
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Truly, you are incomparably stupid. Your own link makes the point I just did and you ignored it and just copy and pasted a few lines without thinking. As I said before, I understand thinking is hard for you but please try a little and maybe you'll learn something. Here's a quote from one of your articles, the ones that quotes Blair

Blair continued: "Nonetheless, we have moved in a few months from a debate about what sort of Brexit, involving a balanced consideration of all the different possibilities, to the primacy of one consideration - namely controlling immigration from the EU - without any real discussion as to why and when Brexit doesn't affect the immigration people most care about."

He's reiterating exactly what I said numb nuts. The immigration people care about is the large inflow of Muslim immigrants but they aren't coming through the EU. Morons like you think that just because Merkel wanted to dump a few thousand refugees that walked in yesterday that this is where the bulk of Muslim immigration comes from but in the case of France and the UK that's not the case. Leaving the EU to stop Muslim immigration into the UK is like building a wall on the Canadian border to stop Mexicans from coming into the US.

 

[Rod1]

Leaving the EU to stop Muslim immigration into the UK is like building a wall on the Canadian border to stop Mexicans from coming into the US.

 

[Islam Imamate]

I've never personally heard anyone complain about the Poles. Yeah, you get some shit-bags among them, as you do with any other race. But all the ones I've met were happy enough to work for a living and obey the law of the land.

Some hot women among them, too

It does seem that there is animosity for the Poles in the UK but maybe that comes mainly from the English. But either way the concern with them is fundamentally different. I think with the Poles its more of the standard "they took our jobs!" sentiment whereas with the Muslim immigrants there's a national security element to it.

So its like the difference between the way Americans saw the Irish immigrants and the Japanese immigrants during WWII except I'd say the concern over the Muslim immigrants is more well founded than the one over the Japanese given the former have carried out numerous terrorist attacks whereas the Japanese didn't.

 

[Space]

Truly, you are incomparably stupid. Your own link makes the point I just did and you ignored it and just copy and pasted a few lines without thinking. As I said before, I understand thinking is hard for you but please try a little and maybe you'll learn something. Here's a quote from one of your articles, the ones that quotes Blair

He's reiterating exactly what I said numb nuts. The immigration people care about is the large inflow of Muslim immigrants but they aren't coming through the EU. Morons like you think that just because Merkel wanted to dump a few thousand refugees that walked in yesterday that this is where the bulk of Muslim immigration comes from but in the case of France and the UK that's not the case. Leaving the EU to stop Muslim immigration into the UK is like building a wall on the Canadian border to stop Mexicans from coming into the US.

Brexit is not the whole solution, but slowing down Muslim migration from the EU into the U.K. is important. Your analogy is cute, but even you know it's not true, being a Muslim and all.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Brexit is not the whole solution, but slowing down Muslim migration from the EU into the U.K. is important. Your analogy is cute, but even you know it's not true, being a Muslim and all.

So basically, you're just going to avoid all the substance in my post and feign victory. Like I said, doesn't matter to me what you tell yourself whether its that facts are simply taqiyya or whatever other nonsense your ilk believes. There's really not much point in continuing any discussion with you, as long as its clear to others you're an imbecile who doesn't know what he's talking about and that I have disdain for you and people like you then I did what I set out to and it seems I have done precisely that ITT.

 

[Space]

So basically, you're just going to avoid all the substance in my post and feign victory. Like I said, doesn't matter to me what you tell yourself whether its that facts are simply taqiyya or whatever other nonsense your ilk believes. There's really not much point in continuing any discussion with you, as long as its clear to others you're an imbecile who doesn't know what he's talking about and that I have disdain for you and people like you then I did what I set out to and it seems I have done precisely that ITT.

I posted the bait and you fell for it, exposing yourself as the traitor you are, dude.

 

[Islam Imamate]

I posted the bait and you fell for it, exposing yourself as the traitor you are, dude.

At this point I'm not even sure what you're talking about or if you can entirely comprehend my posts. Its not as if I argued in favor of Muslim immigration, I just argued that the proposed solution, Brexit, was a misdiagnosis of the problem. But its seems any nuanced discussion escapes you and you fall back on regurgitating talking points you swallowed elsewhere.

Btw, don't really see how I could be a traitor in this case. I'm not a citizen of the UK nor do I live there or even really care much what happens there.

 

[Rod1]

Brexit is not the whole solution, but slowing down Muslim migration from the EU into the U.K. is important. Your analogy is cute, but even you know it's not true, being a Muslim and all.

Muslims arent coming from the EU but former British colonies.

 

[hiphopnazi]

In any case, I'm not surprised, the Polish for example are seemingly a common scapegoat and yet they hold the contradicting position of taking all the jobs but also taking in welfare. People are full of shit, and you can't really know what benefits a person is getting unless you know them, and the type of people to tell lies about different people, probably don't have any meaningful interaction with said people.

Britain has long had an under class of poor people living on welfare and in public housing but it's easy to point a finger at the migrants

I think the TS is pointing out that recent arriving immigrants from certain areas who enter the UK, don't work. A benefit to move to the UK is their welfare which is enough to sustain a lifestyle, it seems.

Personally, immigrants who don't enter the workforce won't integrate that well.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Muslims arent coming from the EU but former British colonies.

It doesn't matter how many times its spelled out for him, he won't understand because he has an ideological commitment to his fallacious view.

 

[Islam Imamate]

In any case, I'm not surprised, the Polish for example are seemingly a common scapegoat and yet they hold the contradicting position of taking all the jobs but also taking in welfare. People are full of shit, and you can't really know what benefits a person is getting unless you know them, and the type of people to tell lies about different people, probably don't have any meaningful interaction with said people.

Britain has long had an under class of poor people living on welfare and in public housing but it's easy to point a finger at the migrants

Perhaps that isn't contradictory though. If the influx of Poles reduces the values of labor enough then them taking a low wage labor job might still leave them poor enough to have to rely on welfare. Not saying that this is what happened, maybe it did and maybe it didn't, but just that its possibly how these two seemingly contradictory phenomenon are reconciled in the view of a person who might scapegoat the Poles.

 

[Space]

At this point I'm not even sure what you're talking about or if you can entirely comprehend my posts. Its not as if I argued in favor of Muslim immigration, I just argued that the proposed solution, Brexit, was a misdiagnosis of the problem. But its seems any nuanced discussion escapes you and you fall back on regurgitating talking points you swallowed elsewhere.

Btw, don't really see how I could be a traitor in this case. I'm not a citizen of the UK nor do I live there or even really care much what happens there.

Then why did you come into the thread and start spazzing out over my post? We all know you're the biggest Islam apologist on here; I guess somebody has to do it. Are you American and not really Muslim? If so then being an Islam apologist would make you a cultural traitor, considering they want to wipe us off the face of the map. This is what Leave voters were more concerned about than Polskis taking their jobs (though they don't want that either).

 

[MicroBrew]

There is/was a lot of resentment with Polish immigrants. My mate in London , who's in the vocational trade, said they drove wages down ; and were basically to England what Mexican cheap labor is to the US.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Then why did you come into the thread and start spazzing out over my post?

Because I wanted to? This is a forum were we're supposed to discuss things, in this case your complete inability to lucidly view the reality of the situation and instead remain committed to an inaccurate view of events despite multiple posters explaining it clearly to you.

We all know you're the biggest Islam apologist on here; I guess somebody has to do it. Are you American and not really Muslim? If so then being an Islam apologist would make you a cultural traitor, considering they want to wipe us off the face of the map.

Yes I am American but that actually has precious little to do with the present discussion. You're just a feeble minded person who can address reality and instead falls back on petty insult that hardly even make sense when employed by you.

This is what Leave voters were more concerned about than Polskis taking their jobs (though they don't want that either).

Okay but as I said before that does nothing to counter my points ITT. It doesn't matter what the "feelz" of UK voters were, immigrants from the EU are not the primary source of Muslim immigration you moron.

 

[Rod1]

Then why did you come into the thread and start spazzing out over my post? We all know you're the biggest Islam apologist on here; I guess somebody has to do it. Are you American and not really Muslim? If so then being an Islam apologist would make you a cultural traitor, considering they want to wipe us off the face of the map. This is what Leave voters were more concerned about than Polskis taking their jobs (though they don't want that either).

Again, if all EU immigrants leave the UK will actually be LESS white and MORE Muslim, because most EU immigrants are white Europeans, not muslims.

 

[Space]

Because I wanted to? This is a forum were we're supposed to discuss things, in this case your complete inability to lucidly view the reality of the situation and instead remain committed to an inaccurate view of events despite multiple posters explaining it clearly to you.

Yes I am American but that actually has precious little to do with the present discussion. You're just a feeble minded person who can address reality and instead falls back on petty insult that hardly even make sense when employed by you.

Okay but as I said before that does nothing to counter my points ITT. It doesn't matter what the "feelz" of UK voters were, immigrants from the EU are not the primary source of Muslim immigration you moron.

But that's why many people voted Leave, so yes their "feelz" did matter. They feel they are losing their country to immigration, so they voted leave. There wasn't much deeper thought to it than that.

And so you are American, but are you Muslim? I mean, what is your extraction? It matters because you're constantly going up to bat for a bunch of people who hate us. So either you have some self-loathing issues, or you're a Muslim, which is fine if you just get it out there.

 

[Islam Imamate]

But that's why many people voted Leave, so yes they're "feelz" did matter. They feel they are losing their country to immigration, so they voted leave. There wasn't much deeper thought to it than that.

It matters in terms of the outcome of the referendum of course but their "feelz" don't change the reality that most Muslim immigrants did not come from the EU. So you're essentially conceding that the British voters were indeed misinformed, as your earlier article quoting Blair attests to, and voted in favor of something that won't in fact accomplish what it is they thought it would.

And this goes back to OP's point: why is that the British voters had an issue with the flow of immigrants from the EU when that is not in fact the primary channel for the bulk of Muslim immigrants into the UK? Of course the answer is they're likely idiots like yourself who were easily mislead assuming they voted for the misinformed reason you provided.

And so you are American, but are you Muslim? I mean, what is your extraction? It matters because you're constantly going up to bat for a bunch of people who hate us. So either you have some self-loathing issues, or you're a Muslim, which is fine if you just get it out there.

I was raised Muslim.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Again, if all EU immigrants leave the UK will actually be LESS white and MORE Muslim, because most EU immigrants are white Europeans, not muslims.

At this point he's being willfully ignorant of the facts that have been laid out before him multiple times. You can take a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

 

[Gl0kta]

Again, if all EU immigrants leave the UK will actually be LESS white and MORE Muslim, because most EU immigrants are white Europeans, not muslims.

If Brexit screws the economy badly enough that no one wants to come to the UK victory will be achieved.....