And why exactly Britain got an issue with EU immigrants?

[HomerThompson]

But that's why many people voted Leave, so yes they're "feelz" did matter. They feel they are losing their country to immigration, so they voted leave. There wasn't much deeper thought to it than that.

And so you are American, but are you Muslim? I mean, what is your extraction? It matters because you're constantly going up to bat for a bunch of people who hate us. So either you have some self-loathing issues, or you're a Muslim, which is fine if you just get it out there.

*their

 

[Space]

It matters in terms of the outcome of the referendum of course but their "feelz" don't change the reality that most Muslim immigrants did not come from the EU. So you're essentially conceding that the British voters were indeed misinformed, as your earlier article quoting Blair attests to, and voted in favor of something that won't in fact accomplish what it is they thought it would.

And this goes back to OP's point: why is that the British voters had an issue with the flow of immigrants from the EU when that is not in fact the primary channel for the bulk of Muslim immigrants into the UK? Of course the answer is they're likely idiots like yourself who were easily mislead assuming they voted for the misinformed reason you provided.

I was raised Muslim.

Brits who voted leave don't want Eastern Europeans taking their jobs, and they don't want more Muslims. That's the basic gist of it.

*their

Fixed.

 

[MayhemMonkey]

Brits who voted leave don't want Eastern Europeans taking their jobs, and they don't want more Muslims. That's the basic gist of it.



Fixed.

 

[Gl0kta]

Brits who voted leave don't want Eastern Europeans taking their jobs, and they don't want more Muslims. That's the basic gist of it.

People always look for simple answers to complex problems.

 

[Dalarna3]

This is something my 60 year old mother would post to Facebook.

 

[BruceLeeOnTRT]

I heard it was cause Polaks came in and started taking all the blue collar jobs for super cheap. Like building a house for a trunk full of beer.

 

[manlyseaeagle]

Again, if all EU immigrants leave the UK will actually be LESS white and MORE Muslim, because most EU immigrants are white Europeans, not muslims.

British born Muslims have issues with white eastern europeans.

 

[Thames]

It matters in terms of the outcome of the referendum of course but their "feelz" don't change the reality that most Muslim immigrants did not come from the EU. So you're essentially conceding that the British voters were indeed misinformed, as your earlier article quoting Blair attests to, and voted in favor of something that won't in fact accomplish what it is they thought it would.

And this goes back to OP's point: why is that the British voters had an issue with the flow of immigrants from the EU when that is not in fact the primary channel for the bulk of Muslim immigrants into the UK? Of course the answer is they're likely idiots like yourself who were easily mislead assuming they voted for the misinformed reason you provided.

Jesus @Space, this is what happens when you leave the echo chamber over on the_donald. No mods to enforce a safe space here.

 

[Prutfis]

I would think it has something to do with the open border policy and countries like Romania exporting all the Roma scum, while not honoring their obligations to take convicted citizens back to Romania for their sentence.

I just read an article that said that around 2/3 of everyone put before a judge in Copenhagen is a foreign national. Burglary rates have skyrocketed etc.

 

[Space]

*their

Jesus @Space, this is what happens when you leave the echo chamber over on the_donald. No mods to enforce a safe space here.

What is "this"?

 

[Thames]

What is "this"?

You putting on display how much con men like Farage and Trump have got you bamboozled, to the point of you actually having enough confidence to parrot their propaganda outside your echo chamber channels.

I think this is where you drop a "pepe meme", scream "cucks!" and slowly leave the thread. Unless you want to start embracing reality, then I'll be more than happy to answer any questions you have regarding the inner workings of the EU and how it affects immigration (both from EU citizens and citizens outside the EU).

 

[Thames]

I would think it has something to do with the open border policy and countries like Romania exporting all the Roma scum, while not honoring their obligations to take convicted citizens back to Romania for their sentence.

I just read an article that said that around 2/3 of everyone put before a judge in Copenhagen is a foreign national. Burglary rates have skyrocketed etc.

What obligation?

Link to article?

Last statement is objectively false (however it is true that there was a rise in burglaries in the following years after the inclusion of the eastern european countries in 2004 - 2007):

http://www.dst.dk/da/Statistik/nyt/NytHtml?cid=23450

 

[lfd0311]

Alright ya goof, where do you think over half of those Muslim immigrants are from? Are Pakistan and Bangladesh part of the EU or do they have some other relationship with the UK? I know thinking is hard for you but please try this time.

Come on, now. They come in to other countries like France, Sweden and Germany and are forced on places like the UK that don't want them by the EU. It's one of the major reasons behind Brexit.

 

[lfd0311]

You're such a moron. They're being brought in because the EU is trying to reproduce in Europe what the US has been doing for a generation with Mexico. bring in ultra low cost workers who will work for very cheap, much cheaper than the established working class and won't unionize, thus saving corporations millions on labor. They just didn't take into account that working for a wage is an incredibly shameful thing for people from the Middle East to do, and they got them into the country and now they aren't working and are destroying things and generally being fanatics. Stop being an idiot.

 

[TheGreatA]

Immigration was only one problem. Within the EU, Britain was gradually being phased out from having any impact on the direction of the Union. While Britain was always a proponent of a loose trade union, and a defender of national sovereignty, it's obvious that the EU has taken the stance of becoming a federation similar to the U.S, with EU possessing the dictatorial power to over-rule sovereign democratic decisions.

That's not something that is in the best interest of the Brits. They have their own, highly effective systems of governing, carved out throughout the centuries of being a major power in the world (comparable to the U.S. up until World War II), and they're not about to be over-ruled and erased by inferior, ineffective EU bureaucracy, populated largely by failed domestic socialist hack politicians from stagnant Euro trash countries.

I can guarantee that the Brits will do great once they re-establish their relations with the old "Empire".

Europe is shit, and will play no role in the future of the world, outside of Germany which is centralizing every resource from the rest of EU, to itself. Mobilizing cheap labour from East Europe, intimidating others to pay for bail-outs for their banks, convincing economically stable countries to invest money into sinkholes to the point where they go into economic depression (while themselves making backroom deals to sell useless military gear to make up for their own "loans", to the likes of Greece), possibly taking the lead of a federalized military and security agencies to be further in control of Europe etc. Not to mention their latest feat of bringing in millions of third worlders to destabilize the entire Europe, which are then mobilized to wreak havoc on the rest of EU due to its lax open borders philosophy. The Union has certainly been in the best interests of Germany, as far as accomplishing its primary objective which has always been, and always will be, to take control of Europe.

But as we found out, the Brits were too smart to be involved in such a scam. They called out the bullshit in 1914 and 1939, and they've done it again.

 

[Prutfis]

What obligation?

Link to article?

Last statement is objectively false (however it is true that there was a rise in burglaries in the following years after the inclusion of the eastern european countries in 2004 - 2007):

http://www.dst.dk/da/Statistik/nyt/NytHtml?cid=23450

Yeah burglaries skyrocketed. So that we today have one of the worst stats in western Europe. The danish news are all over this today.

It was 4 out of 5, not 2/3.

https://www.mx.dk/nyheder/kobenhavn/story/10233641

I thought we had an agreement with Romania to take their prisoners home. Must have been thinking of another country. Seems the Stick didn´t get a deal in place yet.
http://www.fyens.dk/indland/Pind-vil-lade-kriminelle-udlaendinge-afsone-i-Rumaenien/artikel/3088874

However foreign nationals are becoming a real concern

https://www.information.dk/indland/2014/01/udenlandske-fanger-koster-samfundet-halv-milliard

 

[TheGreatA]

Yeah burglaries skyrocketed. So that we today have one of the worst stats in western Europe. The danish news are all over this today.

It was 4 out of 5, not 2/3.

https://www.mx.dk/nyheder/kobenhavn/story/10233641

I thought we had an agreement with Romania to take their prisoners home. Must have been thinking of another country. Seems the Stick didn´t get a deal in place yet.
http://www.fyens.dk/indland/Pind-vil-lade-kriminelle-udlaendinge-afsone-i-Rumaenien/artikel/3088874

However foreign nationals are becoming a real concern

https://www.information.dk/indland/2014/01/udenlandske-fanger-koster-samfundet-halv-milliard

In the past 10 years the number of foreign prisoners in Finland has risen by 75 percent. Foreigners represent 15-20% of all prisoners (which is actually among the lowest numbers in Europe), but, Finland is close to a 99% homogeneous country. So we are talking about a massively disproportionate number of foreigners compared to natives being imprisoned. And this is not a country where you get imprisoned very easily (even battery or sexual assault may only lead to being fined).

It's a worrying trend.

If you limited the movement of foreigners, especially those with shady backgrounds, it is safe to say that crime would decrease drastically.

If Finland ever becomes a truly "multi-cultural" country, that isn't 90+% populated by Finno-Ugric people, with rates such as that, we would be screwed.

 

[Thames]

Yeah burglaries skyrocketed. So that we today have one of the worst stats in western Europe. The danish news are all over this today.

It was 4 out of 5, not 2/3.

https://www.mx.dk/nyheder/kobenhavn/story/10233641

I thought we had an agreement with Romania to take their prisoners home. Must have been thinking of another country. Seems the Stick didn´t get a deal in place yet.
http://www.fyens.dk/indland/Pind-vil-lade-kriminelle-udlaendinge-afsone-i-Rumaenien/artikel/3088874

However foreign nationals are becoming a real concern

https://www.information.dk/indland/2014/01/udenlandske-fanger-koster-samfundet-halv-milliard

You and I must read different news channels then. I tried to search for it on different news sites. This is the last article DR wrote about the subject: http://www.dr.dk/ligetil/antallet-af-indbrud-er-faldet-markant

Yes, burglaries skyrocketed at a point in time (after having steadidly declined for a decade), but now the numbers have declined back to a point that is even lower than the lowest point before the inclusion of eastern european countries into the EU (and even with the inclusion of those countries, the amount of burglaries never exceeded the amount that took place in 1995). The stats talk for themselves. Even if we have the worst numbers in western Europe (a stat I can't be bothered to verify), we are still making progress. So it would seem incredibly asinine to suddenly spass out about Romania or the baltic countries, when burglaries have declined heavily even with them being part of Schengen. You could spass out back in 2007, but not now.

The statistics with immigrants in custody seems consistent with the increase in immigration, and before such a number becomes interesting you really have to compare it to how many of the immigrants on Copenhagen DOESN't commit crimes. I don't really know what can be done in that area, that is not already being done. We can't suddenly start blocking out immigrants (as is also mentioned in the article, the vast majority of non-eu immigrants are law abiding visitors) on the off chance that they are here to commit a crime. As long as the numbers are as small as they are, and the crimes as petty as they are, I think the status quo will continue.

As for costs, I can see that they set out a goal that 90% of criminals with EU citizenship should be returned to their home countries. I don't know what progress has been made there, but it appears to me that such an agreement should be made on EU level. But I agree that it should not be our job to rehabilitate foreign criminals.

 

[Prutfis]

You and I must read different news channels then. I tried to search for it on different news sites. This is the last article DR wrote about the subject: http://www.dr.dk/ligetil/antallet-af-indbrud-er-faldet-markant

Yes, burglaries skyrocketed at a point in time (after having steadidly declined for a decade), but now the numbers have declined back to a point that is even lower than the lowest point before the inclusion of eastern european countries into the EU (and even with the inclusion of those countries, the amount of burglaries never exceeded the amount that took place in 1995). The stats talk for themselves. Even if we have the worst numbers in western Europe (a stat I can't be bothered to verify), we are still making progress. So it would seem incredibly asinine to suddenly spass out about Romania or the baltic countries, when burglaries have declined heavily even with them being part of Schengen. You could spass out back in 2007, but not now.

The statistics with immigrants in custody seems consistent with the increase in immigration, and before such a number becomes interesting you really have to compare it to how many of the immigrants on Copenhagen DOESN't commit crimes. I don't really know what can be done in that area, that is not already being done. We can't suddenly start blocking out immigrants (as is also mentioned in the article, the vast majority of non-eu immigrants are law abiding visitors) on the off chance that they are here to commit a crime. As long as the numbers are as small as they are, and the crimes as petty as they are, I think the status quo will continue.

As for costs, I can see that they set out a goal that 90% of criminals with EU citizenship should be returned to their home countries. I don't know what progress has been made there, but it appears to me that such an agreement should be made on EU level. But I agree that it should not be our job to rehabilitate foreign criminals.

It´s been in the radio news all day about burglaries (P3 this morning on the way to work), one of the highest rates in western Europe and one of the lowest rates of cases solved. We only bring charges in about 6.5% of cases

Sure number of burglaries have declined since their peak in 2009, but so has our rate of solved cases (From 10% in the 90s).. From 95 to now there have been several years with lower burglary rates.

http://ekstrabladet.dk/kup/goderaadom/faerre-indbrud-opklares-se-antal-indbrud-i-din-kommune/6561367

https://www.b.dk/nationalt/indbrud-syltes-af-presset-politi

http://nyheder.tv2.dk/krimi/2015-05-22-rapport-saa-mange-indbrud-opgiver-politiet-at-opklare

It´s no accident our burglary stats culminated in 2009

 

[Thames]

It´s been in the radio news all day about burglaries (P3 this morning on the way to work), one of the highest rates in western Europe and one of the lowest rates of cases solved. We only bring charges in about 6.5% of cases

Sure number of burglaries have declined since their peak in 2009, but so has our rate of solved cases (From 10% in the 90s).. From 95 to now there have been several years with lower burglary rates.

http://ekstrabladet.dk/kup/goderaadom/faerre-indbrud-opklares-se-antal-indbrud-i-din-kommune/6561367

https://www.b.dk/nationalt/indbrud-syltes-af-presset-politi

http://nyheder.tv2.dk/krimi/2015-05-22-rapport-saa-mange-indbrud-opgiver-politiet-at-opklare

It´s no accident our burglary stats culminated in 2009

The statistic I posted does not track number of solved burglaries, but the amount of reported burglaries.

The police capabilities with solving burglaries is a different subject (what stats do you use there?), and has nothing to do with the EU (the article you cite names lack of resources as the primary culprit).

PS:
I do not click on links from ekstrabladet.