Almost half the comments on Dana's latest X post are about Jones/Aspinall

[Captain Herb]

Exactly.

Especially if Tom Aspinall keeps winning and breaks the HW title defense record, and becomes the HW GOAT. Then Jon Jones legacy will be the guy that ducked the true GOAT.

Whereas Jon could fight Tom now, and he could beat him. Then nothing Tom does could eclipse Jon's legacy.

Thinking about it logically, which is not Jon's forte, it makes much more sense to fight Tom than to duck him. Like you said, if he wins, he is completely legit, he silences the critics and has a claim to goat that would be hard to argue against, and if he loses, so what it's HW anything can happen, he's at the tail end of his career and he's not a natural HW, at least he stepped up to the challenge. But if he continues to duck, all that will happen is he diminishes his own legacy. People will first say Duck and then they'll say Roids.

 

[volcom5]

This fight probably set for MSG in November funny thing, even if it’s announce somehow people will still find a way to complain.

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

I hate to be that guy, but I think you're in the wrong here. And if I am, I apologize in advance... but...

It is my understanding the UFC only has to offer any fighter three fights a year, and is simply to fulfill the obligation on the UFC's part to make bout offers. The fighter can refuse, but they don't get paid or "show" money for doing it. The UFC just uses the fight refusal as a means to extend fight contracts and keep the fighter under control. And it doesn't mean fighters fight 3 times a year. Most don't, at least not anymore, lol.

Jon can't fight professionally anwhere else without the UFC's permission, belt or not. Jon's not just bound by the champion's clause, he's 2 fights into an 8-fight deal IIRC.

I think you're confused about what I'm saying

The UFC has to offer three fights a year OR pay show money if they want a fighter to sit

In this case it is worth it for them to keep Tom inactive and pay him the show money

 

[Sasha]

Almost half the threads on the heavies too, and it's extremely tiresome

 

[Orochimaru 大蛇丸]

This fight probably set for MSG in November funny thing, even if it’s announce somehow people will still find a way to complain.

If you're not complaining about this entire debacle you would happily take literally anything the UFC gives you lmao

 

[Aurelian]

The demand to see Jon/Aspinall is why Dana won't strip Jon and will continue to try to make the fight

 

[Aurelian]

i find his haters have way more to say and way more threads to make

Exactly. Those fans who care so much about Jons legacy hate the fuck out of him anyway.

 

[Aurelian]

I think you're confused about what I'm saying

The UFC has to offer three fights a year OR pay show money if they want a fighter to sit

In this case it is worth it for them to keep Tom inactive and pay him the show money

I'm curious on the specifics of how exactly that works. If UFC offers Tom the Jon fight and he signs but Jon doesn't does that still count as an offer? Do both parties have to agree for it to count?

 

[volcom5]

If you're not complaining about this entire debacle you would happily take literally anything the UFC gives you lmao

Or I just don’t care at this point, there’s lots of other fights for me to look forward. Im not going waste my time and energy crying about a fight that I and the rest of you folks knows nothing about the logistics of it.

I would happily take anything the UFC gives me? You’re assuming that and laughing into believing me as a consumer is FORCED to purchase or watch every event the UFC puts out, I don’t, I watch fights and events that intrigue me or bouts that gets me excited. Hell i just leave those dreaded Apex cards running in the background while I go about my evening, glancing at periodically. Would it be nice to see Aspinall vs Jones? Sure but at this point it’s all just tiresome. If it occurs then it occurs, if it doesn’t that im just hoping Jones is stripped and Aspinall fights for the undisputed.

Put it this way, just a weeks ago, people were crying about DDP being injured and out of the Khamzat fight, this was before it was even announced it was still a hypothetical fantasy bout and people on here were already crying about it blaming Dana, Khamzat and DDP for it falling out for Decius being injured….in a bout that was fantasy at the time.

70% people on here are just emotionally driven and will find anything to bitch and cry about, I really believe they don’t care about it themselves, it’s just their little way of feeding a self created hate for Dana and the UFC.

If you want to join that party, then by all means go for it. I rather focus on fights that are occurring and actually supporting those fighters in them. Do your thing, but if/when this is officially announce you and I both know the goal post will be moved and the bitching and crying willl still continue.

 

[Joe.KO]

Good. Break his balls. We deserve some answers. Wtf is this shit.

 

[World eater]

i find his haters have way more to say and way more threads to make

While true, many are labeled here as “Jon’s haters”, but they hate this situation, not Jon. You can hate the situation and blame Jon and the UFC without actually hating either Jon or the UFC. I was called a Jon hater, but I very much respect the man as a fighter.

 

[fedorthegoat777]

I checked it out.
First 10 comments were calling Dana a bum and telling him to make the fight.

 

[Cartiac]

I think you're confused about what I'm saying

The UFC has to offer three fights a year OR pay show money if they want a fighter to sit

In this case it is worth it for them to keep Tom inactive and pay him the show money

It would be very cool if you could show me a contract that states this, but all of the publicly released UFC contracts I have read do not say anything about this broscience fact.

If you think about it, it doesn't even make any sense at all. It is pretty hard for top ranked guys to fight more than twice a year so this three offers a year or pay them doesn't make sense. Do you really think UFC would put that condition on themselves? They are in the fight business. They pay people to fight, they are not a charity handing out checks to people for sitting on their asses.

 

[Alpha_T83]

The demand to see Jon/Aspinall is why Dana won't strip Jon and will continue to try to make the fight

The problem is, Dana is sacrificing Aspinall's activity and fucking the 2025 PPV schedule.

Look at UFC 317. Weak ass slop card. Every champion EXCEPT Jon Jones will have defended in 2025 by then. Had Dana just stripped Jon Jones earlier this year when he refused to agree to fight @ UFC 317, he could have had Aspinall fight already. Tom Aspinall could have fought twice in 2025 easily, allowing the PPV schedule to be more stacked.

Also Jon Jones' demand hasn't changed: Pereira or retirement. Honestly, if Dana goes with Jones/Pereira at this point, that would be grounds for extreme retribution that could go beyond words. And Dana would deserve it.

 

[RockyLockridge]

While true, many are labeled here as “Jon’s haters”, but they hate this situation, not Jon. You can hate the situation and blame Jon and the UFC without actually hating either Jon or the UFC. I was called a Jon hater, but I very much respect the man as a fighter.

jon's not to blame though at all so, I'm not sure where you're coming from

 

[goOb]

 

[World eater]

jon's not to blame though at all so, I'm not sure where you're coming from

i can blame whoever I want for whatever I want, since I don’t have to be objective. But to answer your question specifically, a guy who keeps posting his title fight streak and calling himself goat should fight the best if he is holding the belt. He is not forced to do so, but then some no name guy such as myself can blame him for it. For whatever it’s worth. And another no name guy such as yourself can defend him on this random thread on a dying forum.

 

[RockyLockridge]

guy who keeps posting his title fight streak and calling himself goat should fight the best if he is holding the belt.

Literally all he has done his entire career bar stipe and chael. (and he didn't even want the chael fight)

He is not forced to do so, but then some no name guy such as myself can blame him for it.

you'd be wrong for doing that, but do what you please

For whatever it’s worth. And another no name guy such as yourself can defend him on this random thread on a dying forum.

I'm not defending him, I'd say at absolute best, Im giving him the benefit of the doubt. Me saying it's not this guys fault isn't in "His defense" It's to shine a light on the actual perpetrator (the UFC)


when Jones vs Aspinall is announced is he still going to be a duck? probably.

 

[Thy]

I mean, there's really nothing else to say until they give tom a fight and strip the belt from jones. Jones can get an immediate title fight if he fights again.

 

[World eater]

I'm not defending him, I'd say at absolute best, Im giving him the benefit of the doubt. Me saying it's not this guys fault isn't in "His defense" It's to shine a light on the actual perpetrator (the UFC)


when Jones vs Aspinall is announced is he still going to be a duck? probably.

Oh, I blame the UFC much more than him, but I blame him as well for treating Tom like a scrub as he wasn’t a top contender at some point as well.

Also, I don’t consider him a duck. I don’t think that man fears anybody. Maybe he fears losing, but not other fighters.