All Time GOAT poll

[VinceArch]

Yeap, the truth hurts you LOL.

Hater hate on hate on, Hater hate on hate on

Too obvious, troll harder.

 

[bartleby929]

pissing hot precludes you from goat status

 

[Luckyme]

The difference between MLB and MMA is, the sport was conceived with steroids, where promotions like Pride encouraged them

If there is an "asterisk" by Jones name stemming from USADA, then there is an asterisk by every alleged GOAT, or even fighter who partook in MMA prior to USADA

A lot of things were legal in the early days of MMA that are against the rules now.

We're talking the USADA era here. If you knowingly break the rules, then you are by definition a cheater.

 

[Krimzon]

because 50% of the mma community thinks 98% of mma fighters are cheats

 

[ermac88]

Not quite. There's a difference between wondering if someone cheated vs knowing it. Also it's only cheating if it's illegal. If PEDs were encouraged in Pride it means everyone was abiding by the rules. Versus Jones cheating in the USADA era where it is explicitly not allowed.

A lot of things were legal in the early days of MMA that are against the rules now.

We're talking the USADA era here. If you knowingly break the rules, then you are by definition a cheater.

Well if the asterisks doesn't stem simply from the use of steroids, but because of the notion of "cheating".

USADA has never penalized Jones for "cheating".

 

[Streeter]

Only other in convo for Goat is Khabib an he only fought 5 legit killers in his career. Gsp lost to Serra I cannot put a fighter as goat thatcwas stopped by Serra. Fedor has a great run but after 2009 he fell off a cliff (prime for Prime I might say Fedor tho) Andy has the ped issues as well as 5 or so loses

 

[sandokan83]

Belford is a cheater, Jones only once.

 

[Juice]

Too obvious, troll harder.

Just remember. Jones is still the GOAT, still undefeated, still the champ, and you still mad. That's all that matters LMAO.

 

[Gamer2k4]

For me it's because the only time he tested positive, the fight was overturned to be a NC instead of a win. For the rest of his record, he tested clean.

And if your argument at that point is, "well, he didn't fail a test, but I'm just assuming he was on PEDs for those fights anyway," then not only is that subjective opinion, but now there's no weight to a clean record, because anyone can assume anything about any fighter. And if a clean record doesn't matter (simply because you've decided it doesn't), then Jones is easily the GOAT, because his accomplishments while testing clean surpass anyone else's.

 

[VinceArch]

Just remember. Jones is still the GOAT, still undefeated, still the champ, and you still mad. That's all that matters LMAO.

GOATS don't test positive. More than once. Keep on living in your fantasy. Don't forget to keep up your shtick with LOL and LMAO

 

[fightfan70]

should ask jon jones?

 

[Andy Capp]

Honest question to Jones fans. I am done arguing with you guys and if in the face of all the evidence , if you still support your boy so be it .

But if sherdog is to represent a microcosm of the world wide MMA community, I believe it is safe to say that half of this community does not believe Jones to be goat due to PED usage.

Don't you all thing that you would at least need a majority of people to believe a fighter is goat before designating this label to him/her?

Doesn't it bother you at all that Jones does not have that support of the MMA community?

Don't be silly.

It's far more than 50%.

 

[Andy Capp]

None of you guys actually care that he used steroids in principle. You care because you don't like Jon (and often Silva too).

What the fuck do you know about what I think? Get bent. He's a cheater and a hit and run bitch ass. Both are good enough reasons to detest him but only one is a reason to discount his UFC performances in the GOAT discussion.

 

[mjfan23]

Are the other 50% blind and dead? He’s a cheat

 

[IDGETKTFO]

Goat cheat maybe

Considering he got caught multiple times, he's not even GOAT at cheating. Maybe GOAT snitch.

 

[rstringer]

You do realize mostly EVERYONE in the Top 10 is cheating, that's my opinion but I believe it. Ex drug users know drug users...

No evidence of that and even if there was , doesn't mean you can call anyone goat. There should not be a goat which ismthr main point .

 

[rstringer]

Not quite. There's a difference between wondering if someone cheated vs knowing it. Also it's only cheating if it's illegal. If PEDs were encouraged in Pride it means everyone was abiding by the rules. Versus Jones cheating in the USADA era where it is explicitly not allowed.

Do you believe he took PEDs?

 

[rstringer]

Don't be silly.

It's far more than 50%.

I know , I was taking the most conservative number to make a point .

 

[Pancake Sprawl]

fedor fought like 90 percent bums in japan
best wins where nog and cro cop
loooool

prime fedor suddenly lost left and right in america
where there is drug testing
if ur an adult with a fully grown brain
you obviously could figure this out

whats real and whats delusion

insinuates they're an adult with a fully grown brain

believes American drug testing is irrefutable evidence that nobody can do PEDs

says this in a thread about the most prolific PED user in MMA history who has only fought in America

 

[Average]

1. Jones cheated

2. Jones beat other cheaters

3. Jones beat "clean" fighters who beat the other cheaters

Jon is goat

P.S. I am a Jones hater. I hope Stipe smashes a hole in him (he won't but I can hope)