All Time GOAT poll

orca said:
ufc did test and was fair
u fedor huggers claim that 23 yr old jon jones used steroids before usada fighting innocent guys in the LHW division
u also discredit his wins before usada right?
what if fedor used alot of steroids than his opponents? didnt u even asked this question to yourself?
getting tests in the ufc and passing it means that these guys are fighting fair
your discrediting all tests that jon jones passed right??
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That dude is clearly a Jones hater and a Fedor nut hugger.
 
lets see guy is PED user had a staged fight his first hw bout don;t want to fight pavlovic of course he is NOT
 
he's already the GOAT

but if he loses to stipe, then GSP probably pulls ahead. especially if stipe retires after and he can't avenge it.
 
Juice said:
I'm not sure what you are talking about.

GSP does not have more top 10 wins than Jones.

Jones holds the UFC record for the most title defenses.

And the WW division was definitely not more stacked than the LHW division Jones ran through.
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I said consecutive title defenses (GSP had 9, Jones had 8). WW is historically better than LHW because there are a lot more WW competitors than LHWs. It's simply more competitive and stacked. Look at the win streak of Jones' opponents and compare them to GSP's during their title reign.
 
Hdfi said:
I said consecutive title defenses (GSP had 9, Jones had 8). WW is historically better than LHW because there are a lot more WW competitors than LHWs. It's simply more competitive and stacked. Look at the win streak of Jones' opponents and compare them to GSP's during their title reign.
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And the only reason for that is because Jones got stripped for his title. Other wise GSP would not have more consecutive title defenses.

And if its 9 vs 8 that isn't even worth mentioning.

WW was stacked but not more stacked than LHW when Jones started.

I'll give one example. Jones beat 4 former champs in one year. GSP has done nothing even close to that.

That's how stacked LHW was when Jones was fighting. LHW was full of Champions and killers.

For every opponent you can name for GSP I can name one for Jones.
 
Beating Stipe doesn't really move him. He's already one of the GOATs, and it'll hold his place, but who the hell is going to be wowed by him beating a 41 year old coming off a KO loss and 3 year layoff?
 
so sad the amount of people who jack off to fighters who are too stupid to pass drug tests
 
If a fighter has to have a "but he took PEDS" as a qualifier, he's out.

GSP, DJ, Khabib, Volk, and Israel are the only five I put into a serious GOAT discussion, giving GSP the edge, but the other 4 still have time to overtake him.
 
Dr Guildo said:
The argument that Jon Jones never fought the best competition until recently is not a opinion, it's a fact. The best fighters are at HW - weight-classes are there for a reason. I'm just pointing that out. In some cases it feels like people forget that Fedor always fought at HW.
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That is far from a fact. That's your own made up false stupid opinion.

Jones has been fighting top competition pretty much his entire career.

Half of Fedor's resume are C and D level fighters.

On what planet did Jones just start fighting the best competition? Then you refer to the Heavyweights LMAO.

Heavyweight is the weakest division and always has been.

The skill gap between LHW and HW when Jones started fighting is so big its not even funny.

I guess you are too impressed with one dimensional Pavlovich beating one dimensional Curtis Blaydes, just because they are Heavyweights. And you call that top competition? Please.

If weight classes mattered as much as you pretend then Fedor would not have gotten KO'ed by an old middleweight two weight classes below him.

Bob Sapp is 350 plus pounds. If he fought Jones who do you think is going to win?

Yea there are weight classes for a reason but that does not guarantee the bigger person will win either.
 
Imagine getting caught cheating and people still said that made you the greatest of all time. Never mind everyone that did not cheat to win..

The woman that rode the bus to the finish line is clearly the greatest marathon runner of all time, of all time! - Joe Rogan
 
LostMyBlackBelt said:
Imagine getting caught cheating and people still said that made you the greatest of all time. Never mind everyone that did not cheat to win..

The woman that rode the bus to the finish line is clearly the greatest marathon runner of all time, of all time! - Joe Rogan
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Ti read somewhere that there was some woman who tried to cheat & use a car to win a marathon and still only came in 3rd, lmfao!
 
Juice said:
And the only reason for that is because Jones got stripped for his title. Other wise GSP would not have more consecutive title defenses.

And if its 9 vs 8 that isn't even worth mentioning.

WW was stacked but not more stacked than LHW when Jones started.

I'll give one example. Jones beat 4 former champs in one year. GSP has done nothing even close to that.

That's how stacked LHW was when Jones was fighting. LHW was full of Champions and killers.

For every opponent you can name for GSP I can name one for Jones.
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And that's great but Belfort wasn't even ranked at light heavyweight when they fought, Machida only had a 1-win streak, Rashad 4 and Rampage 2. Shields and Fitch were not former champions but had better win streaks when they faced GSP.
 
Hdfi said:
And that's great but Belfort wasn't even ranked at light heavyweight when they fought, Machida only had a 1-win streak, Rashad 4 and Rampage 2. Shields and Fitch were not former champions but had better win streaks when they faced GSP.
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Let the hate go.
 
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