All Time GOAT poll

[ThunderStruck]

The absolute state of this poll.. People value more GSP retiring at 37 years old (ducking all challenges) than Fedor signing a HW grand prix and made it to the finals at +40 years old.

A HW GP of washed up fighters just like him. You peoples keep saying that losses outside of prime years doesn't count. Ok but then wins against out of prime fighters shouldn't count either. You can't have it both ways.

 

[DickNiaz209]

My cousin Bradley is the goat

 

[BlackDanaWhite]

The absolute state of this poll.. People value more GSP retiring at 37 years old (ducking all challenges) than Fedor signing a HW grand prix and made it to the finals at +40 years old.

Lol GSP beating Bisping is better than or equal to anything Fedor did in his prime.

 

[Jopo]

I understand some may disagree, but for me it's Georges St-Pierre. He's the defining champion of my era when I first got into MMA-he was they guy everyone was talking about, obviously Silva too at that time, but I think GSP career wise achieved more and ended his career when he was still a champion, still a winner which people like Silva, Fedor were unable to do so.

He also went through his career without failing any drugs test or suffering any suspensions for cheating/doping-which is increasing rare these days.

St-Pierre is the GOAT for my money.

Ugh I dont mind if GSP is your pick. But don't make ending his career at the "right time" as part of your argument.

and real fighters take risks and lose. GSP lost to hendricks and retired. then came back for the easiest possible matchup.

 

[CerebralKnievel]

I kind of soured a little bit on GSP when he went after Bisping
Just seems like he took the easiest path, and I always thought he was cute concerned about his legacy which meant he ended up almost picking fights he knew he could win or playing it safe

The guy cleaned out the division during his reign and ducked no one. However, calling out Bisping at just that moment was utter cringe.

 

[TUFNewb]

Gsp pulling away with the lead. Haters are shook.

 

[JustOnce]

What are you talkin' bout' Willis ?
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yeah 1 out of 10000+

 

[markg171]

The absolute state of this poll.. People value more GSP retiring at 37 years old (ducking all challenges) than Fedor signing a HW grand prix and made it to the finals at +40 years old.

Why people think choking unconscious the #1 fighter in the world of a weight class above you've ever fought in is better than getting KO'd cold by a fighter from a weight class below yours in 30 seconds is better I don't know.

 

[Taric]

Why people think choking unconscious the #1 fighter in the world of a weight class above you've ever fought in is better than getting KO'd cold by a fighter from a weight class below yours in 30 seconds is better I don't know.

If BJ Penn went up and choked out perennial gatekeeper Matt Serra when Serra was champion and the #1 WW, it would not be considered an incredibly impressive victory... Michael Bisping was a perennial MW gatekeeper who also happened to be champion for a brief time period... It was not an incredibly impressive victory.

 

[rac2]

voted for anderson.

jon jones is the right answer tho

 

[Taric]

So I'm going to help this thread out. Below is statistical data of GSP and Fedor's championship runs side by side:

GSP was the #1 WW from April 19th 2008 until December 13th 2013.
That is 5 years, 7 months, and 24 days of being the #1 undisputed WW of the world without a loss during that reign.
During GSP's 5 year reign as the #1 WW he won 10 fights.
GSP retired from the WW division at the age of 32 with a record of 25-2
GSP from the age of 33 to second retirement held a record of 1-0
GSP's overall record is 26-2

Fedor was the #1 HW from March 16th 2003 until June 26th 2010.
That is 7 years, 3 months, and 10 days of being the #1 undisputed HW of the world without a loss during that reign.
During Fedor's 7 year reign as the #1 HW he won 20 fights.
Fedor at the age of 32 held a record of 31-1
Fedor from the age of 33 to present holds a record of 7-5
Fedor's overall record is 38-6 (1)

The empirical data shows that Fedor was champion longer, Fedor had more championship wins, Fedor has more total wins/fights in general, and when you hold up their records at the same age GSP retired at WW, Fedor had less losses. However because GSP didn't compete at all in his division past the age of 32, and Fedor continued to compete in his 30s and 40s, Sherdog believes GSP to be the more accomplished fighter... This is madness and I'm going to use another sport as an example of why that is madness.

Joe Montana has a Super Bowl record of 4-0. Tom Brady has a Super Bowl record of 6-3. Who had the better career? Tom Brady has competed in more championships and has won more championships, but he almost has as many Super Bowl losses as Joe Montana has victories. Joe Montana however is undefeated in the Super Bowl.

GSP fans must believe that Joe Montana is the most accomplished quarterback of all time... The rest of the world however believes the most accomplished of all time is the guy with the most championships.

 

[TUFNewb]

10% lead in the polls for GOAT SP.

The haters have quit on their stool. I'm calling it.

IT'S ALLL OVER!

 

[PIИKBLIИK]

Ugh I dont mind if GSP is your pick. But don't make ending his career at the "right time" as part of your argument.

and real fighters take risks and lose. GSP lost to hendricks and retired. then came back for the easiest possible matchup.

Why? It's valid point. Fedor, Silva, Penn all hurt their legacy taking bad losses toward the end of their career. It's just a fact you can't ignore all the bad losses these guys took staying in too long.

Hendricks was a close decision victory for GSP and he came back years later to win yet another belt. GOAT for me.

 

[fractal]

I think DC should on the list. His only loss is via decision to Jones, but has captured the LHW and HW title in devastating fashion.

 

[Sonny Qc]

yeah 1 out of 10000+

Sure buddeh

 

[Hamm and Clov]

lol GoatSP is winning this poll easily.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

beating cormier twice > anything anyone has done in mma. jones has to be the best we’ve seen so far

 

[markg171]

If BJ Penn went up and choked out perennial gatekeeper Matt Serra when he was champion and the #1 WW, it would not be considered an incredibly impressive victory.
... Michael Bisping was a perennial MW gatekeeper who also happened to be champion for a brief time period... It was not an incredibly impressive victory.

Bisping was #4 when he KO'd Rockhold.

https://www.mmamania.com/2016/5/31/...pdate-bryan-caraway-cody-garbrandt-top-10-mma

But hey, I'd love to see your post where you said GSP would drop him standing and then choke him unconscious after 4 years of retirement and in his first fight ever at MW against a former LHW.

 

[Greco_Wiz]

Lol at Fedor even being second. His resume is so clearly behind both GSP and Aldo it’s crazy.

 

[Mikeyz]

St Pierre. Cleaned out his division several times... Then moved up and beat a guy with the most UFC wins to be 185 champ... Champ-Champ... GOAT... #Hespect

Not a fan of him but this is true.