All Time GOAT poll

Jon's the best to ever do it. Hard to argue against that.

-If steroid usage makes you ineligible, anyone who had a professional fight prior to drug testing also isn't eligible.
-If having at least 50% of the MMA community disagree that you are the GOAT makes you ineligible, then there logically cannot be a GOAT at all then.

Those who say Jon isn't the GOAT simply don't like him as a person, have a favorite fighter in GOAT contention, are fans of fat boy DC's crying/towel-leaning ass, etc...Jon has done some incredibly stupid shit. And he's the GOAT. Both can be true and I hate that for those who have made it their personality to pretend otherwise. Cheers
It is proven that Jones used PEDs. There is no proof that GSP ever used PEDs.

Those two sentences are facts. Simple.
 
In casual conversation? I've only seen boxing heads talk reference them. I've never seen them on top 10 lists either.
Maybe not but what does that matter?

You discuss GOATs up to this point during your time on earth. You don't say fuck it lets never discuss who is the best ever up to this point in time because in 100 years, better people will come along.

Hell, why even discuss anything? It's all pointless because in 100 years, something better will come along......
 
Makes sense. You can throw DJ in there at 125.

In order to get a GOAT Level fighter at a weight class takes years, Jones was like 11 years, GSP 7 years, Anderson 7 years etc.

Considering how long the UFC has been around and all that, it would be very rare to have another fighter with a similar title reign in the same weight class.

I think we'll get another 1-2 fighters like that his decade. But it's very rare.
 
Jon's the best to ever do it. Hard to argue against that.

-If steroid usage makes you ineligible, anyone who had a professional fight prior to drug testing also isn't eligible.
-If having at least 50% of the MMA community disagree that you are the GOAT makes you ineligible, then there logically cannot be a GOAT at all then.

Those who say Jon isn't the GOAT simply don't like him as a person, have a favorite fighter in GOAT contention, are fans of fat boy DC's crying/towel-leaning ass, etc...Jon has done some incredibly stupid shit. And he's the GOAT. Both can be true and I hate that for those who have made it their personality to pretend otherwise. Cheers
Of course it makes you ineligible. See lance armstrong and Barry bonds for an example
 
Maybe not but what does that matter?

You discuss GOATs up to this point during your time on earth. You don't say fuck it lets never discuss who is the best ever up to this point in time because in 100 years, better people will come along.

Hell, why even discuss anything? It's all pointless because in 100 years, something better will come along......

I never said anything about not discussing, I was asking TS as he seemed to think Jon Jones would be relevant 100 years from now.
 
Fedor disrespect be CrAZy [<dunn]


I will always die on the hill that Khabib isn't even the best fighter out of AKA.
 
I mean it’s not like he cheated in broad daylight and had his coach rub Vaseline all over him in between rounds
 
A 100 years from now the only dude that will be remembered from 2000-2020 in the UFC is Jon Jones he is like our Rocky Marciano.

We havent had our Ali, we havent had our Tyson, we havent had our Mayweather.

Seeing people like GSP, Silva, Volk etc. called a GOAT is so laughable when you look at their history when they became champ, how many defense, how many losses.

The most defenses in UFC history currently is by Jones at 13 and if you look at boxing for example every record is currently well over 20. Also the multi weight classes is another thing, you dont think we will one day have weight classes approximating something like 140-145-150-155-160-165-170....and htat there will be a dude that can be champ in all of them or 5-6?

You dont think there will be a 42-2 with 35 finishes and 5 weight class champion 50 years from now?


Just take a second to imagine the future, when MMA is truly established and paths to a career as early as middle school exist, you will realize how none of these guys today will mean anything

When we have a more established system where a fighter can be built and his skills honed against lesser fighters. Mike Tyson had 28 fights in his first 2 boxing years. Jon Jones only fought 8 times in his first year as a pro. There just isnt that model yet or the infrastructure to develop guys that boxing has perfected but we will get there.

There will be a time when we have our Tyson. When we have some 20 year old with a 27-0 record with 25 finishes trying to become the youngest heavyweight champ of all time.

So please stop embarrassing yourself with the daily GOAT debates.
and here i was hoping the memo to be : "STOP THIS GOAT NONSENSE AT ONCE!" ... so disappointed it wasn't .
 
FLW - DJ
BW - Cruz
FW - Aldo
LW - Khabib
WW - GSP
MW - Silva
LHW - Jones
HW - Fedor

I don't really care about your order but its probably

1A.Jones
1B.GSP
2 Silva
3 DJ
4 Fedor
5 Aldo
6 Khabib
7 Cruz
 
The weight classes might be sequential, but your order sure isn't.

GSP would starch Khabib all day, every day. You can't even compare GSP and Khabib's resume.
 
FLW - DJ
BW - Cruz
FW - Aldo
LW - Khabib
WW - GSP
MW - Silva
LHW - Jones
HW - Fedor

I don't really care about your order but its probably

1A.Jones
1B.GSP
2 Silva
3 DJ
4 Fedor
5 Aldo
6 Khabib
7 Cruz
Why would khabib be over Volk or izzy?

Genuinely curious.
 
Why would khabib be over Volk or izzy?

Genuinely curious.
I picked the best fighter by division. Izzy is #2 MW all time Volk is #2 best FW... in my opinion of course... Khabib is honestly the hardest fighter to place all time because he only has like 4 ranked wins then he retired... He was the most dominant fighter of all time... but his record is way less impressive than guys like Usman, Izzy, Volk,
 
The weight classes might be sequential, but your order sure isn't.

GSP would starch Khabib all day, every day. You can't even compare GSP and Khabib's resume.

I think if they both weighed 170 that GSP is probably the only fighter that could have neutralized Khabib standup. GSP's wrestling was just too strong.

29-0 is hard to top, especially with what 12-13 wins in a row in UFC. Not to mention Khabib was getting better like every single fight before he retired strong with three straight submissions....
 
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