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can you prove with absolute certainty that Fedor was 100% clean?
All Time GOAT poll
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can you prove with absolute certainty that Fedor was 100% clean?
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Damn right he is. The guy is spectacular.
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No, but he’s a bad motherfucker. Insane striker, and very underrated BJJ. Definite weakness against smothering wrestlers, and some losses on his record to less than stellar competition.
Fedor is the greatest MMA fighter of all time.
Fedor is the greatest MMA fighter of all time.
Not even close, no. Even his multiple PED test failures for different PED's notwithstanding, he is most certainly not the best mixed martial artist ever. Check the polls on here next time you want Sherdog's answer to your question.
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Nope; but we know Silva cheated. You're only speculating about Fedor the GOAT.
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Not at all.
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Hey you reading this. Maybe 5% of your favorite fighters didn't do steroids.
Yes. Anderson and Fedor are 1 and 2. Simple as.
Yes. Anderson and Fedor are 1 and 2. Simple as.
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Anderson Silva would be ranked #4 of all time MMA fighters imo.
1. Fedor
2. GSP
3. Jon Jones
4. Anderson Silva
5. Khabib
1. Fedor
2. GSP
3. Jon Jones
4. Anderson Silva
5. Khabib
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Look the odds for Silva vs Okami, like an absolute missmatch
Then loos at odds for Okami vs Fitch and Shields, who are among best GSP challengers. Extremely close or even Okami favoured
That was the magnitude of Silva's aura of invincibility
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Still cracks me up he beat Brunson lolhe's up there in the discussion.
Anderson Silva's top 10 wins
(1) WIN - Tetsuji Kato - Mar/2/2001 -- Shooto - To The Top 2
#9 WW - 2001 - Feb 8 - MMA Media Top 10
(2) WIN - Hayato Sakurai - Aug/26/2001 -- Shooto - To The Top 7
#1 P4P - 2001 - Apr 11 - MMA Media Top 10
#1 WW - 2001 - Aug 6 - Stephen Quadros
#1 WW - 2001 - Aug 14 - MMA Media Top 10
(3) WIN - Alex Stiebling - Jun/23/2002 -- Pride 21 - Demolition
#8 LHW - 2002 - Jun 11 - MMA Media Top 10
#8 MW - 2002 - JUN - Associated Fight Press
#9 LHW - 2002 - Jun 18 - Stephen Quadros
(4) WIN - Carlos Newton - Mar/16/2003 -- Pride 25 - Body Blow
#2 WW - 2003 - JAN - Full Contact Fighter
#2 WW - 2003 - Jan 31 - Fighters & Broadcasters Poll
#2 WW - 2003 - Feb 15 - MMA Media Top 10
#3 WW - 2003 - Mar 4 - MMA News
#2 WW - 2003 - MAR - Associated Fight Press
(5) WIN - Jeremy Horn - Jun/27/2004 -- Gladiator FC - Day 2
#2 MW - 2004 - Jun 21 - MMA News
#2 MW - 2004 - Jun 22 - ADCC MMA Rankings
#2 MW - 2004 - MAY - Fighters & Broadcasters Poll
#3 MW - 2004 - APR(3-24) - Josh Gross-MaxFighting
#4 MW - 2004 - Jun 22 - Stephen Quadros
(6) WIN - Lee Murray - Sep/11/2004 -- Cage Rage 8 - Knights of the Octagon
#5 MW - 2004 - Jul 5 - MMA Fighting
#7 MW - 2004 - Jun 22 - Stephen Quadros Top 10
#7 MW - 2004 - Aug 23 - MMA Collective-Ufight
#7 MW - 2004 - Aug 23 - MMA News
(7) WIN - Rich Franklin - Oct/14/2006 -- UFC 64
#2 P4P - 2006 - Sep 30 - MMA News
#1 MW - 2006 - SEP (20) - Bloody Knux
#1 MW - 2006 - Sep 26 - MMA Weekly
#1 MW - 2006 - Sep 30 - MMA News
(8) WIN - Nate Marquardt - Jul/7/2007 -- UFC 73
#7 MW - 2007 - May 29 - MMA News
#7 MW - 2007 - Jun 27 - MMA Weekly
#6 MW - 2007 - JUN - Full Contact Fighter
(9) WIN - Rich Franklin - Oct/20/2007 -- UFC 77
#4 MW - 2007 - Sep 25 - Sherdog
#5 MW - 2007 - Sep 26 - MMA News
#4 MW - 2007 - Oct 1 - MMA Fighting
#4 MW - 2007 - Oct 10 - MMA Weekly
(10) WIN - Dan Henderson - Mar/1/2008 -- UFC 82
#6 P4P - 2008 - Feb 14 - 411mania MMA P4P
#3 MW - 2008 - FEB (6) - MMA Fighting
#4 MW - 2008 - Feb 18 - WAMMA Rankings
#5 MW - 2008 - Feb 21 - Bloody Elbow-Meta Rankings
#5 LHW - 2008 - Feb 3 - Fight Matrix-Published
#2 LHW - 2008 - FEB (6) - MMA Fighting
#5 LHW - 2008 - Feb 21 - Bloody Elbow-Meta Rankings
#3 LHW - 2008 - Feb 20 - MMA Weekly
#2 LHW - 2008 - Feb 21 - Sherdog
(11) WIN - Thales Leites - Apr/18/2009 -- UFC 97
#8 MW - 2009 - Apr 9 - MMA Fighting
#6 MW - 2009 - Mar 16 - Josh Gross-Sports Illustrated
#9 MW - 2009 - Mar 25 - Bloody Elbow-USAToday
#9 MW - 2009 - Apr 7 - Sherdog
(12) WIN - Forrest Griffin - Aug/8/2009 -- UFC 101
#4 LHW - 2009 - Jul 14(17) - Independent World MMA Rankings
#4 LHW - 2009 - Jul 16 - Sherdog
#4 LHW - 2009 - Jul 30 - Bloody Elbow-USAToday
#4 LHW - 2009 - Aug 3 - Fight Matrix-Published
#3 LHW - 2009 - Jul 14 - MMA Weekly
(13) WIN - Demian Maia - Apr/10/2010 -- UFC 112
#5 MW - 2010 - Apr 2 - Sherdog
#6 MW - 2010 - Apr 6(9) - Independent World MMA Rankings
#8 MW - 2010 - Apr 4 - Fight Matrix-Published
#8 MW - 2010 - Apr 2 - Josh Gross-Sports Illustrated
#6 MW - 2010 - Apr 1 - MMA Bay (U.K.)
(14) WIN - Chael Sonnen - Aug/7/2010 -- UFC 117
#2 MW - 2010 - Jul 29 - Bloody Elbow-USAToday
#2 MW - 2010 - Aug 1 - Fight Matrix-Published
#2 MW - 2010 - Aug 4 - MMA Weekly
#2 MW - 2010 - Aug 6 - Josh Gross-Sports Illustrated
(15) WIN - Vitor Belfort - Feb/5/2011 -- UFC 126
#5 MW - 2011 - Jan 11 - MMA Torch4
#6 MW - 2011 - Jan 4 - Sherdog
#7 MW - 2011 - Jan 8 - L.A. Times MMA Rankings
#6 MW - 2011 - Jan 27 - Bloody Elbow-USAToday
(16) WIN - Yushin Okami - Aug/27/2011 -- UFC 134
#3 MW - 2011 - Aug 8 - Fight Matrix-Published
#3 MW - 2011 - Aug 17 - L.A. Times MMA Rankings
#3 MW - 2011 - Aug 22 - Sherdog
#2 MW - 2011 - Aug 24 - MMA Weekly
#2 MW - 2011 - Aug 26 - Bloody Elbow-USAToday
(17) WIN - Chael Sonnen - Jul/7/2012 -- UFC 148
#2 MW - 2012 - Jun 19 - L.A. Times MMA Rankings
#2 MW - 2012 - Jun 27 - Sherdog
#2 MW - 2012 - Jun 27 - MMA Weekly
#2 MW - 2012 - Jul 1 - Fight Matrix-Published
#2 MW - 2012 - Jul 2 - Bloody Elbow-MMA Nation
(18) WIN - Derek Brunson - Feb 2017 - UFC 208
#8 MW - Feb 6, 2017 - Sherdog
#9 MW - Feb 6, 2017 - ESPN
#7 MW - Feb 11, 2017- Bloody Elbow
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*When he wasn't getting destroyed in Japan, and when he could roid in the UFC.
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You can’t be the GOAT if you got busted for peds. It’s that simple. No real sport recognizes the accomplishments of cheaters. There’s an obvious reason for that.
If you want to call him the best you’ve ever seen. Or most exciting, whatever. But, there’s a poll in here, and he’s a distant 4th. Was that farce of a boxing match supposed to suddenly change people’s minds? That’s ridiculous.
I don’t think there is one true GOAT. But, I know who isn’t eligible for the title. That’s anybody that has ever popped for peds. Let alone double digit losses.
If you want to call him the best you’ve ever seen. Or most exciting, whatever. But, there’s a poll in here, and he’s a distant 4th. Was that farce of a boxing match supposed to suddenly change people’s minds? That’s ridiculous.
I don’t think there is one true GOAT. But, I know who isn’t eligible for the title. That’s anybody that has ever popped for peds. Let alone double digit losses.
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He isn't the Barry Bonds of the sport (that's Jon Jones) but he's the Mark McGwire.
He lost against a bunch of suck-ass japanese fighters, than came to the USA, juiced to the gills, and dispatched some lousy competition, got cocky by smelling his own PEDed farts and got KTFO in the most hilarious way
This is Anderson Silva's legacy:
If we'd take into account PED and steroids cheaters, Jon Jones is a complete tier above Anderson Silva (Anderson Silva ducked the fuck out of Jon Jones too btw). But since we don't, Anderson Silva isn't top 10
Brutal.
For me he is. His array of finishes during his reign of terror is unparalleled.
A young Jones is the closest I've seen. He wiped the floor with former champs who were suddenly past it after he ran through them.
I appreciate GSP had a dominant title reign in the deepest era of WW, but I rate finishes far higher than 50-45s. GSP's risk adverse strategy minimised the risk of a Serra repeat, but it means he missed a trick from a legacy perspective
A young Jones is the closest I've seen. He wiped the floor with former champs who were suddenly past it after he ran through them.
I appreciate GSP had a dominant title reign in the deepest era of WW, but I rate finishes far higher than 50-45s. GSP's risk adverse strategy minimised the risk of a Serra repeat, but it means he missed a trick from a legacy perspective
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I don't think he's necessarily the greatest, but I certainly think he's the most memorable and fun to watch out of all the GOAT candidates. Way more exciting and memorable than the likes of Jon Jones or GSP, despite me maybe ranking those two guys ahead of him in all-time GOAT talks.
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The Mt Rushmore is him, Jones, GSP, Fedor. You can make a solid case for all of them.
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he's up there in the discussion.
Anderson Silva's top 10 wins
(1) WIN - Tetsuji Kato - Mar/2/2001 -- Shooto - To The Top 2
#9 WW - 2001 - Feb 8 - MMA Media Top 10
(2) WIN - Hayato Sakurai - Aug/26/2001 -- Shooto - To The Top 7
#1 P4P - 2001 - Apr 11 - MMA Media Top 10
#1 WW - 2001 - Aug 6 - Stephen Quadros
#1 WW - 2001 - Aug 14 - MMA Media Top 10
(3) WIN - Alex Stiebling - Jun/23/2002 -- Pride 21 - Demolition
#8 LHW - 2002 - Jun 11 - MMA Media Top 10
#8 MW - 2002 - JUN - Associated Fight Press
#9 LHW - 2002 - Jun 18 - Stephen Quadros
(4) WIN - Carlos Newton - Mar/16/2003 -- Pride 25 - Body Blow
#2 WW - 2003 - JAN - Full Contact Fighter
#2 WW - 2003 - Jan 31 - Fighters & Broadcasters Poll
#2 WW - 2003 - Feb 15 - MMA Media Top 10
#3 WW - 2003 - Mar 4 - MMA News
#2 WW - 2003 - MAR - Associated Fight Press
(5) WIN - Jeremy Horn - Jun/27/2004 -- Gladiator FC - Day 2
#2 MW - 2004 - Jun 21 - MMA News
#2 MW - 2004 - Jun 22 - ADCC MMA Rankings
#2 MW - 2004 - MAY - Fighters & Broadcasters Poll
#3 MW - 2004 - APR(3-24) - Josh Gross-MaxFighting
#4 MW - 2004 - Jun 22 - Stephen Quadros
(6) WIN - Lee Murray - Sep/11/2004 -- Cage Rage 8 - Knights of the Octagon
#5 MW - 2004 - Jul 5 - MMA Fighting
#7 MW - 2004 - Jun 22 - Stephen Quadros Top 10
#7 MW - 2004 - Aug 23 - MMA Collective-Ufight
#7 MW - 2004 - Aug 23 - MMA News
(7) WIN - Rich Franklin - Oct/14/2006 -- UFC 64
#2 P4P - 2006 - Sep 30 - MMA News
#1 MW - 2006 - SEP (20) - Bloody Knux
#1 MW - 2006 - Sep 26 - MMA Weekly
#1 MW - 2006 - Sep 30 - MMA News
(8) WIN - Nate Marquardt - Jul/7/2007 -- UFC 73
#7 MW - 2007 - May 29 - MMA News
#7 MW - 2007 - Jun 27 - MMA Weekly
#6 MW - 2007 - JUN - Full Contact Fighter
(9) WIN - Rich Franklin - Oct/20/2007 -- UFC 77
#4 MW - 2007 - Sep 25 - Sherdog
#5 MW - 2007 - Sep 26 - MMA News
#4 MW - 2007 - Oct 1 - MMA Fighting
#4 MW - 2007 - Oct 10 - MMA Weekly
(10) WIN - Dan Henderson - Mar/1/2008 -- UFC 82
#6 P4P - 2008 - Feb 14 - 411mania MMA P4P
#3 MW - 2008 - FEB (6) - MMA Fighting
#4 MW - 2008 - Feb 18 - WAMMA Rankings
#5 MW - 2008 - Feb 21 - Bloody Elbow-Meta Rankings
#5 LHW - 2008 - Feb 3 - Fight Matrix-Published
#2 LHW - 2008 - FEB (6) - MMA Fighting
#5 LHW - 2008 - Feb 21 - Bloody Elbow-Meta Rankings
#3 LHW - 2008 - Feb 20 - MMA Weekly
#2 LHW - 2008 - Feb 21 - Sherdog
(11) WIN - Thales Leites - Apr/18/2009 -- UFC 97
#8 MW - 2009 - Apr 9 - MMA Fighting
#6 MW - 2009 - Mar 16 - Josh Gross-Sports Illustrated
#9 MW - 2009 - Mar 25 - Bloody Elbow-USAToday
#9 MW - 2009 - Apr 7 - Sherdog
(12) WIN - Forrest Griffin - Aug/8/2009 -- UFC 101
#4 LHW - 2009 - Jul 14(17) - Independent World MMA Rankings
#4 LHW - 2009 - Jul 16 - Sherdog
#4 LHW - 2009 - Jul 30 - Bloody Elbow-USAToday
#4 LHW - 2009 - Aug 3 - Fight Matrix-Published
#3 LHW - 2009 - Jul 14 - MMA Weekly
(13) WIN - Demian Maia - Apr/10/2010 -- UFC 112
#5 MW - 2010 - Apr 2 - Sherdog
#6 MW - 2010 - Apr 6(9) - Independent World MMA Rankings
#8 MW - 2010 - Apr 4 - Fight Matrix-Published
#8 MW - 2010 - Apr 2 - Josh Gross-Sports Illustrated
#6 MW - 2010 - Apr 1 - MMA Bay (U.K.)
(14) WIN - Chael Sonnen - Aug/7/2010 -- UFC 117
#2 MW - 2010 - Jul 29 - Bloody Elbow-USAToday
#2 MW - 2010 - Aug 1 - Fight Matrix-Published
#2 MW - 2010 - Aug 4 - MMA Weekly
#2 MW - 2010 - Aug 6 - Josh Gross-Sports Illustrated
(15) WIN - Vitor Belfort - Feb/5/2011 -- UFC 126
#5 MW - 2011 - Jan 11 - MMA Torch4
#6 MW - 2011 - Jan 4 - Sherdog
#7 MW - 2011 - Jan 8 - L.A. Times MMA Rankings
#6 MW - 2011 - Jan 27 - Bloody Elbow-USAToday
(16) WIN - Yushin Okami - Aug/27/2011 -- UFC 134
#3 MW - 2011 - Aug 8 - Fight Matrix-Published
#3 MW - 2011 - Aug 17 - L.A. Times MMA Rankings
#3 MW - 2011 - Aug 22 - Sherdog
#2 MW - 2011 - Aug 24 - MMA Weekly
#2 MW - 2011 - Aug 26 - Bloody Elbow-USAToday
(17) WIN - Chael Sonnen - Jul/7/2012 -- UFC 148
#2 MW - 2012 - Jun 19 - L.A. Times MMA Rankings
#2 MW - 2012 - Jun 27 - Sherdog
#2 MW - 2012 - Jun 27 - MMA Weekly
#2 MW - 2012 - Jul 1 - Fight Matrix-Published
#2 MW - 2012 - Jul 2 - Bloody Elbow-MMA Nation
(18) WIN - Derek Brunson - Feb 2017 - UFC 208
#8 MW - Feb 6, 2017 - Sherdog
#9 MW - Feb 6, 2017 - ESPN
#7 MW - Feb 11, 2017- Bloody Elbow
Isnt this a record of wins over UFC tittle challengers?
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