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Social Alistair Overeem says that wokeness made his daughter think she's a man.

Reem a POS for putting his daughter on blast like that. Horrible father
 
Society only raises kids whose parents fail. My wife and I raised our kids, society at large played no role. All their work ethic and values came from us. My kids didn't have a cell phone until they were 16. My kids didn't have social media while under my roof. I knew all of my kids friends and their parents. I coached my kids in every sport they ever participated in for at least two years. I missed maybe ten sporting events across their entire childhood. I missed zero academic functions they were involved with. Disobedience was dealt with swiftly and harshly. There was always a plan with regards to their future, and I don't mean pre-determined, I mean a plan in the sense that I provided options and paths.

You're a less than useful idiot if you think society enables jack shit.
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Spare everyone this bullshit attempt to downplay the corrosive effect woke nonsense is having on culture. Yes, there has always been trans just like there has always been gays. But historically, those who identified as gay made up less than 1% of the population for thousands of years. That persisted into the 20th century. Alistair's daughter's generation is identifying that way somewhere in the range from 21%-30% depending on the survey. This inflation in the numbers is true for trans, too.

Look it up.
Damn mad max you sound very ignorant. People are ok with saying what they are and not being scared or in the closet like in past times. Look it up cause the internet never lies
 
So you're saying Overeem's daughter is a mentally ill narcissist?

I got carded once for literally quoting Overeem's own words about his own daughter because bashing the family of a fighter is considered fighter bashing. The Reem would unironically get banned on Sherdog lol.
 
I'm not talking about my kids in any meaningful way on a popular podcast. Bad form. Daughters, in particular, are fragile with respect to their father's opinion of them. I know since I raised one and spent a lot time around her and her friends. A daughter is a spectacular gift and even if he is 100% right in his analysis there is a better approach. What is done, is done, and he has to live with it now, however it falls. Direct talk is better when face to face. You have to look your daughter in the eye, she has to look you in the eye.

Yeah, whatever confusion his daughter has is far more likely to be a product of his dogshit parenting than "woke culture."

Surprise, surprise, a steroid abusing heavyweight kickboxer who's been knocked out almost a dozen times is a shitty father.
 
Girls are especially prone to social contagions and I think this is pretty well documented and there is no doubt that tick tock and certain influencers have spread a social contagion of transgenderism to lots of kids.
 
It's not an issue that's that important to me, but heaps of ancient cultures had multiple, or fluid genders.. Malaysia, all through the America's (including North America). Across the world basically.. look it up.
Just as stupid then as it is now.
 
whatever confusion his daughter has is far more likely to be a product of his dogshit parenting than "woke culture."
Umm, no, that's not even a good try of blame throwing.​

Reem is lucky he still has a girl and not a boy who already was castrated due to those "change sex to end reproduction" paid-to-influence scumbags.
 
Wrong, but since you're conceding the point...

Concession accepted.

The fact that your main objective is to be right about something, shows how limited you are in your current stage.

The data varies, even for the studies above 23%, 13% of those identify as bi-sexual.

It's very poosible that just as many people had those feelings inside them back in the day, but were way too scared to admit it, or even admit it in a survey..
 
Damn mad max you sound very ignorant. People are ok with saying what they are and not being scared or in the closet like in past times. Look it up cause the internet never lies
if you want to bring up the past lets talk about ancient Rome and Greece. homosexuality (in very different forms was rampant and the majority of people practiced it) :eek::eek::eek::eek:philia was also widespread in Rome and seen as a genuine "good".

I wonder if you can make a case that that was all genetic and since you cannot then you can concede that it was socially conditioned. the FACT of that and the FACT that wildly different forms of homosexuality existed between rome and greece proves that homosexuality is NOT genetic but largely socially conditioned.

once we accept that fact we can have an honest discussion. we are mostly NOT discussing how people are but how they have been conditioned to be. once we accept that fact then we can discuss a parents rights to NOT want their son our daughter conditioned that way and where the line is between conditioning and supporting a community is.
 
As I said in the other thread, putting his kid on blast on media, that's watched by millions is some bad father shit.

Regardless of the situation, you should protect your kids privacy. If you wanna talk about your differences, that's fine but don't put their business out there in front of millions of people. Be a fuckin man about it, protect your kid..

Secondly people were trans before woke Alistair. People just feel safer to be out about it now, being trans doesn't make life easier for you..

It's not an issue that's that important to me, but heaps of ancient cultures had multiple, or fluid genders.. Malaysia, all through the America's (including North America). Across the world basically.. look it up.

This is true - this is WAY over the line and really drains any respect I had for Overeem. This is really shitty parenting. As you say, you can disagree, disaprove, even be extremely concerned by what's going on with your family - especially children, but you DON'T fucking casually chat in a totally intolerant and condescending about it like this in front of an audience of millions. Very nasty from Overeem. For shame.

I acknowledge there have been gender fluid identities and gender roles that arent what we'd describe as male or female - and that the concepts of male and female themselves are also multivariate across different cultures and times. I don't believe it's all "just woke nonsense" but I do think there are some concerning aspects of the contemporary gender theory package - but even still, I just can't imagine saying someting like this about my own child.

I was surprised to see this video. It's not like Overeem has ever been an icon of subtle, empathetic philosophy, but he has been known as a pretty articulate and honest guy, for a fighter - he is Dutch after all, which is a culture associated with both honesty and compassion.
 
a steroid abusing heavyweight kickboxer who's been knocked out almost a dozen times is a shitty father.
Reality - Reem was responding to the recent & unfortunate fiasco of a child being told her valoola could be removed and have a fake penile stapled on to make her new manly life perfect.
 
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