Social Alistair Overeem says that wokeness made his daughter think she's a man.

[wildchild88]

Spare everyone this bullshit attempt to downplay the corrosive affect woke nonsense is having on culture. Yes, there has always been trans just like there has always been gays. But historically, those who identified as gay made up less than 1% of the population for thousands of years. That persisted into the 20th century. Alistair's daughter's generation is identifying that way somewhere in the range from 21%-30% depending on the survey. This inflation in the numbers is true for trans, too.

Look it up.

I did look it up, the number is closer to 10-15% LGBTQI if looking across multiple surveys. A lot of this people are gonna be bi as well..

My main point is about him putting his kid on blast like that.

It's a nuanced issue, personally I think there's to much importance put on the subject from all sides. A lot of obsession with gender and sexuality. Whether it's about supporting gender fluidity, or encouraging strong gender roles.

Honestly I think we shouldn't emphasise gender or sexually when raising kids, just encourage tolerance and let them figure out who they wanna be. The main thing is that people need to get along, too much division these days.

 

[Madmick]

I’m not sure where the confusion is. You can clearly see what sentence ends in a question mark.

Why is it okay to not tax the rich but it’s okay to moderate the media?

Again, what in the hell are you talking about?

We already do both. The FCC is a mass media regulator, for example. And I'm not aware of any conservatives who don't think it's okay to tax the rich. Only the most deluded wingbat libertarians that make up a tiny fraction of the population still advocate for unadulterated Laissez-Faire economics, and in that case, it isn't the rich who aren't being taxed, it's everyone. The right-wing anti-tax lobbies furthest out on the spectrum favor some kind of flat tax, but that still taxes the rich.

Moreover, what do these things have to do with each other? There's nothing inherently illogical or hypocritical about arguing for lower taxes, but greater media censorship. These things are entirely unrelated. We tend to protect children from adult content. We try to limit or at least hamper the ability of criminal networks to use communication devices towards criminal goals. We protect state secrets and security that might be compromised by leaked sensitive information. In these instances, the government performs a service to its citizens that they cannot individually impose, or at least so that they don't have to take matters into their own hands. You don't want all those PTA dads banding together to go tear a radio station or television station apart.

That is not at all analogous to government taking a cut of its citizens business profits, and redistributing wealth. The act of levying taxes isn't a service protecting the population.

 

[Madmick]

I did look it up, the number is closer to 10-15% LGBTQI if looking across multiple surveys.

Wrong, but since you're conceding the point...

Concession accepted.

 

[Lucas1980]

Nothing to really war room here. Woke culture is an infection on the youth in society. Not debatable

Exactly...its like having a debate if cockroaches are good to have in your home or not.

 

[Paynebringer]

Cut version:

Maybe Overeem should not leave sound parenting to the extreme left and explain simple human biology to the child.

 

[SSgt Dickweed]

I think it's a case of Alistair's daughter not being into ballet or shopping and wants to play intense sports like MA, soccer or volleyball. That makes her a strong girl, but she thinks she can be called a "he" because when she sees in social media that that's what Angelina Jolie's daughter wants to be known, she responds to it. Also, if she doesn't likes boys and likes girls, that's one thing, but indeed the woke nonsense have incentivized young people to identify by different pronouns to be unique.

 

[SSgt Dickweed]

delete

 

[AldoStillGoat]

Again, what in the hell are you talking about?

We already do both. The FCC is a mass media regulator, for example. And I'm not aware of any conservatives who don't think it's okay to tax the rich. Only the most deluded wingbat libertarians that make up a tiny fraction of the population still advocate for unadulterated Laissez-Faire economics, and in that case, it isn't the rich who aren't being taxed, it's everyone. The right-wing anti-tax lobbies furthest out on the spectrum favor some kind of flat tax, but that still taxes the rich.

Moreover, what do these things have to do with each other? There's nothing inherently illogical or hypocritical about arguing for lower taxes, but greater media censorship. These things are entirely unrelated. We tend to protect children from adult content. We try to limit or at least hamper the ability of criminal networks to use communication devices towards criminal goals. We protect state secrets and security that might be compromised by leaked sensitive information. In these instances, the government performs a service to its citizens that they cannot individually impose, or at least so that they don't have to take matters into their own hands. You don't want all those PTA dads banding together to go tear a radio station or television station apart.

That is not at all analogous to government taking a cut of its citizens business profits, and redistributing wealth. The act of levying taxes isn't a service protecting the population.

If the FCC is supposed to be regulating the media they are doing a terrible job. Is the mobile phone not considered a mass media device? The internet is being used to transmit mass media.

As for taxes, I’m not super into politics so I’m not sure where the parties exactly stand but from as much as I’ve gathered Republicans don’t generally like to be taxed and the Democrats seem to be in favor of taxing corporations.

My issue is that regulating media seems to be a “it’s for the good of all of us” argument but when it comes to taxation, job or economy issue, it’s always a pick yourself up by your boot straps rebuttal aka you are on your own when people ask why there is a wealth disparity and how they can afford to not be poor.

 

[Rational Poster]

Overreem's daughter probably has more testosterone than most boys.

 

[Sweater of AV]

War Room’s going to like this one.

Nothing to really war room here.

 

[jk7707]

Sounds like he's a real piece of shit father.

 

[Madmick]

If the FCC is supposed to be regulating the media they are doing a terrible job. Is the mobile phone not considered a mass media device? The internet is being used to transmit mass media.

As for taxes, I’m not super into politics so I’m not sure where the parties exactly stand but from as much as I’ve gathered Republicans don’t generally like to be taxed and the Democrats seem to be in favor of taxing corporations.

My issue is that regulating media seems to be a “it’s for the good of all of us” argument but when it comes to taxation, job or economy issue, it’s always a pick yourself up by your boot straps rebuttal aka you are on your own when people ask why there is a wealth disparity and how they can afford to not be poor.

You're overlooking several key differences. I've already highlighted that the act of taxation isn't a public service. Another key difference is that taxation harms the group being taxed. The government has to justify this. When it comes to media regulation, presumably, everyone is deprived equally, and everyone enjoys the same benefit whatever it is believed to be.

In either case, anytime the government infringes on personal freedoms or property, the question is, what justifies this? What is gained? We all accept that sometimes it is justified. But that doesn't mean one argument for infringement justifies every argument for every issue. Don't be silly.

Also, you still haven't explained who proposed "moderating the media" in the thread, and what that entails. It seems you are inventing a strawman, then attributing it to conservatives. I don't see legislation proposed here. This is just a general indictment of the cultural nonsense infecting our children with woke philosophy stemming from the malaise of gender identity theory.

 

[GrantB13]

if they aren't the same thing, how does removing or altering your genitals confirm your sex or gender?

Someone feels and can be chemically more aligned in the brain of the opposite sex but be born in the body that doesn't match. Gender is the societal label we put on how someone identifies and sex is the visible phenotype that we would normally see people as looking like. A transgender person feels the way they do before any surgeries. The surgery is just to try to give them the body they internally feel they should have had.

 

[J_C]

He failed as a father, women under the authority of men esp. children

 

[GoldenWolf87]

I saw that earlier...that's terrible, I really don't understand this new trend. Don't they teach biology in elementary school anymore?

This is not what the schools should be teaching to school children.

 

[Renard]

I'm not talking about my kids in any meaningful way on a popular podcast. Bad form. Daughters, in particular, are fragile with respect to their father's opinion of them. I know since I raised one and spent a lot time around her and her friends. A daughter is a spectacular gift and even if he is 100% right in his analysis there is a better approach. What is done, is done, and he has to live with it now, however it falls. Direct talk is better when face to face. You have to look your daughter in the eye, she has to look you in the eye.

You assume he hasn't talked to her. The way he's all defeated when talking about it, he definitely has talked to her and she refuses to hear it. So I can see why he's like "Fuck it, might as well talk to my buddies about it" since nothing he says changes the situation. It also sounds like she's been with her mother in the NL for a while, and has gotten her mind poisoned by the fruitcake friends at school, her mother, social media, etc. His conclusion is that the only way to prevent it is to be close to your kids when they're growing up, otherwise they can get corrupted by other influences. So he's done the diagnostic in his mind, understands what went wrong, but is powerless to change it.

 

[Krimzon]

Why is it that it’s not okay to tax the rich but it’s okay to moderate the media?

the rich pay more taxes as is(if youre talking about marginal tax rates), and there are certain things that should be moderated depending on the age of the social media user (porn, mutilation, stuff etc)

 

[Barteh]

You assume he hasn't talked to her. The way he's all defeated when talking about it, he definitely has talked to her and she refuses to hear it. So I can see why he's like "Fuck it, might as well talk to my buddies about it" since nothing he says changes the situation. It also sounds like she's been with her mother in the NL for a while, and has gotten her mind poisoned by the fruitcake friends at school, her mother, social media, etc. His conclusion is that the only way to prevent it is to be close to your kids when they're growing up, otherwise they can get corrupted by other influences. So he's done the diagnostic in his mind, understands what went wrong, but is powerless to change it.

Yeah I've known about this for well over a year because he's talked about it in Dutch on other platforms. In one of those vids he went pretty in-depth about it for almost a full hour. What you're saying is pretty spot on.

 

[Cool Hand Luke]

it's a stage. very typical these days with young girls/teenagers.

don't agree he should be broadcasting this for the whole world, that will only drive a space between them. she'll figure herself out on her own.

 

[RoastBeast]

You cannot change biological sex....


Ok, that's enough stupidity from this forum for the day.

What is a woman?