Media Alex Volkov - ONLY Ex-Bellator Champ EVER W/ Winning UFC Record

[Hellowhosthat]

Crazy stat..
considering the talent - Eddie Alvarez, Michael Chandler, and so many others..

Any fighter outside of UFC who can actually do good in UFC?

Sure there are.

Tom Aspinall from Cage Warriors did okay in UFC
Magomed Ankalaev from WFCA did okay in UFC
Dricus Du Plessis from KSW did okay in UFC
Jack Della Maddalena from Eternal did okay in UFC
Islam Makhachev from M-1 Global did okay in UFC
Ilia Topuria from BRAVE did okay in UFC
Merab Dvalishvilli from CFFC did okay in UFC
Alexandre Pantoja from RFA did okay in UFC

 

[Prazeres]

Any fighter outside of UFC who can actually do good in UFC?

Well beside BJ Penn, can't think of a fighter that didn't come outside the UFC doing good there.

 

[volcom5]

Well as long as people get to say UFC>

I am a UFC fan but fighters first

At this point in time in MMA, it’s not even about org vs org anymore, the statistics show the best fighters are in the UFC, because all the best fighters from top regional promotions leave to the UFC. The UFC is just the platform to prove your the best in the world, there’s no certainty in that only opportunity. In modern day you can’t call your self the best in your weight class, you can only call yourself the best in the org you fight in. The UFC filters that out and only cream will rise to the top.

 

[volcom5]

And UFC fighters went to Bellator and couldn't hack it... its all on the mileage for the most part

UFC Fighters couldn’t hack it in Bellator?

Eddie Alvarez & Will Brooks were in their primes, left as CHAMPIONS in their peaks when they came over.
Fighters like Lombard, Chandler, Pitbull and Askren were near their ends but aside from a few younger fighters they fought for the most part they fought fighters of their generation with similar amount of “mileage”

Prominent fighters who went to Bellator.
Ryan Bader 9-2 has a winning record captured gold in the Bellator and fought more former UFC Fighters in Bellator.
Phil Davis 9-3 has winning record captured gold aside from losing to Nemkov, Davis only loss to former UFC fighters.
Corey Anderson went 5-1 only losing to Nemkov
Rory Macdonald went captured gold went 3 -2 only loss to former UFC fighter Gerard Mousasi and loss his title to Lima.
These were prominent fighters who were in their peaks.
It shows Vadim Nemkov as elite & can competitive with fighters from the UFC. With that said, it’s pretty telling that the fighters from the UFC were still competing against former UFC fighters in Bellator at the top of their respected divisions.

Benson Henderson went 7-7 and he was probably nearing the end of his career, he wasn’t really looking good prior to leaving unlike the names i mentioned I above.
Mousasi went 7-3 captured gold
These fighters were pretty close to being done if not flat out done

Fighters like
Lyoto Machida, Sonnen, Ortiz, Bonnars, Mitrione, Mirs were all in late thirties to forties, they were only their to take advantage of Scott Cokers generous payouts for retirees.

So in a sense, you saying UFC fighters couldn’t hack it, they indeed hacked it. Unless you want to count the fighters who were in their 40’s losing then sure you can use that as your ace in the hole for UFC fighters not hacking it in Bellator.

 

[560ti]

Pitbull, Chandler, Alvarez, etc., all had a lot of miles on them when they signed to the ufc.

That's the problem. The fighters that have good reputations/prestige in Bellator are the ones that have a ton of good scraps so in that scenario if they do make it to the UFC they're majority of the time well past their primes.

Some people were disappointed at Pitbull's last fight but it's like what did you actually realistically expect ? Pitbull was starting his peak back when guys like Ricardo Lamas were fighting for a title, that's like a lifetime ago.

 

[volcom5]

That's the problem. The fighters that have good reputations/prestige in Bellator are the ones that have a ton of good scraps so in that scenario if they do make it to the UFC they're at that point well past their primes.

Some people were disappointed at Pitbull's last fight but it's like what did you actually realistically expect ? Pitbull was starting his peak back when guys like Ricardo Lamas were fighting for a title, that's like a lifetime ago.

You can use that for Pitbull, but not really for Chandler or Alvarez. All of Michael Chandlers opponents in the UFC aside from Pimblett has had more fights, more wars against the top ranked elite fighters far longer. Chandler was competitive but essentially loss not because of mileage but because his opponent were just flat out better.

Alvarez entered the UFC in his prime and he fought fighters mixed of his generation like Melendez, Dos Anjos, Cerrone and Gaethje and Poitier who are very close to that generation he’s and he still captured gold, shows how elite Alvarez is.
Will Brooks was a disappointment.

I agree with you on Patricio, there’s literally no one fighting from his generation fighting at 145. It’s tough, he’s not going to do to well.

 

[BowserJr]

UFC Fighters couldn’t hack it in Bellator?

Eddie Alvarez & Will Brooks were in their primes, left as CHAMPIONS in their peaks when they came over.
Fighters like Lombard, Chandler, Pitbull and Askren were near their ends but aside from a few younger fighters they fought for the most part they fought fighters of their generation with similar amount of “mileage”

Prominent fighters who went to Bellator.
Ryan Bader 9-2 has a winning record captured gold in the Bellator and fought more former UFC Fighters in Bellator.
Phil Davis 9-3 has winning record captured gold aside from losing to Nemkov, Davis only loss to former UFC fighters.
Corey Anderson went 5-1 only losing to Nemkov
Rory Macdonald went captured gold went 3 -2 only loss to former UFC fighter Gerard Mousasi and loss his title to Lima.
These were prominent fighters who were in their peaks.
It shows Vadim Nemkov as elite & can competitive with fighters from the UFC. With that said, it’s pretty telling that the fighters from the UFC were still competing against former UFC fighters in Bellator at the top of their respected divisions.

Benson Henderson went 7-7 and he was probably nearing the end of his career, he wasn’t really looking good prior to leaving unlike the names i mentioned I above.
Mousasi went 7-3 captured gold
These fighters were pretty close to being done if not flat out done

Fighters like
Lyoto Machida, Sonnen, Ortiz, Bonnars, Mitrione, Mirs were all in late thirties to forties, they were only their to take advantage of Scott Cokers generous payouts for retirees.

So in a sense, you saying UFC fighters couldn’t hack it, they indeed hacked it. Unless you want to count the fighters who were in their 40’s losing then sure you can use that as your ace in the hole for UFC fighters not hacking it in Bellator.

Dude your so obsessed with me LMAO.

You just jump at the chance to reply to me like you hang on my every word.

If you actually take a second to actually try to understand the point I made, its that many of the fighters that went to UFC from Bellator and vise versa, made that change later in their career and didn't look good cuz of it. Again its both ways. That is to say that the fighters moving over and looking subpar compared to before isn't an indicator that they were always bad. It just means that they've declined.

Go ahead and reply back to this and try to make a mountain out of a mole hill. I'm sure you need to in order to get off or whatever the reason is that your so obsessed with me

 

[volcom5]

Dude your so obsessed with me LMAO.

You just jump at the chance to reply to me like you hang on my every word.

If you actually take a second to actually try to understand the point I made, its that many of the fighters that went to UFC from Bellator and vise versa, made that change later in their career and didn't look good cuz of it. Again its both ways. That is to say that the fighters moving over and looking subpar compared to before isn't an indicator that they were always bad. It just means that they've declined.

Go ahead and reply back to this and try to make a mountain out of a mole hill. I'm sure you need to in order to get off or whatever the reason is that your so obsessed with me

Because you’re dishonest and love to use prime and of prime excuse instead of giving fighters their respect and dues. Thats why.

I told Im obsessed because your my dad, remember?

 

[Slapjit]

Only known UFC fighter tuh moonlight as a #PowerSlap style coach too

 

[BowserJr]

Because you’re dishonest and love to use prime and of prime excuse instead of giving fighters their respect and dues. Thats why.

I told Im obsessed because your my dad, remember?

Hey me being your father is just a guess cuz of the way you follow me and resent me. If thats what you actually think then, ok...

Look, to be perfectly candid. Most of the time I try to be honest, thoughtful and fair so I consider many more variables and aspects than most. Without all that context I can see why someone would think its dishonest but in reality its just that many like you cant follow along. I mean I literally spell it out in a post and then 5 replies later a rando jumps in and doesn't see the previous stuff so assumes poorly.

Every once in a while I'll respond with some trollish shit post because its in response to another trollish shit post.

So your probably A missing context, jumping in the midst of response to someone else

AND

B latching on to some trollish shit post