Elections Alabama Special Senate Election Live Results Thread

[TheGreatA]

If it's against the law for a 19 year old to engage in sexual activities with a 15 year old, it's also illegal for a 30 year old.

15 year old, sure. but we were talking about 16 year olds.

 

[Rational Poster]

15 year old, sure. but we were talking about 16 year olds.

Except not really, because Roy Moore's accusers included 14 and 15 year olds.

 

[TheGreatA]

Except not really, because Roy Moore's accusers included 14 and 15 year olds.

Sure, but we were talking about the 16 year olds.

If he gets nailed from those, everyone has generally agreed that he ought to pay the price. But that hasn't exactly happened.

 

[Law Talkin’ Guy]

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@Ham Socks said sex with a 16 year old was statutory rape. @TheGreatA pointed out that in Alabama it was not.

I don't know what you're getting at.

 

[Rational Poster]

Sure, but we were talking about the 16 year olds.

If he gets nailed from those, everyone has generally agreed that he ought to pay the price. But that hasn't exactly happened.

Nope, that's the the weird hill you dorks have picked to die on.

ITS OK TO FUCK 16 YEAR OLDS WHEN YOURE A 30 SOMETHING DISTRICT ATTORNEY FOR THE STATE GAH.

I never specifically said anything about them being 16, I referred to them as high school girls.

 

[Tekk]

Did he give a reason why?

He said the Mods were being mean to him

 

[Rod1]

No, that's stupid. I never said anything remotely like that.

I said society itself needs to take more responsibility about policing morality without the need to resort to a faceless state bureacrat and the draconian prison system.

You mocked that notion for some reason.

Do you think all moral wrongs not addressed by law require consequences from outraged people who have likely done awful shit themselves? Is it up to you to make sure someone faces some sort of punishment for adultery?

Judge not, lest ye be judged yourselves?

So who decides which moral wrongs are addressed by law or not? consistency is all i ask. Similar to how weed is illegal and alcohol is legal.

Society policed itself really well in the Moore debacle, same with the Weinsten debacle.

To me adultery, dating teens, prostitution and exchanging job offers for sex all fall into moral sexual perversions, yet for some reason certain societies around the world decide that some of them require the intervention of the State to be solved.

 

[TheGreatA]

Nope, that's the the weird hill you dorks have picked to die on.

ITS OK TO FUCK 16 YEAR OLDS WHEN YOURE A 30 SOMETHING DISTRICT ATTORNEY FOR THE STATE GAH.

I'm just pointing out the incorrect facts that people are riding on.

Roy Moore hypothetically having sex with a 16-year old is not statutory rape in Alabama. Not is it an act of philia (see definition). And it was generally more acceptable for older men to have relations with much younger women in those days. The current prime minister of Canada was conceived as a result of his father's relationship with a woman 30 years younger (just turned 18 at the time). Along with many other similar cases.

 

[Rational Poster]

I'm just pointing out the incorrect facts that people are riding on.

Roy Moore hypothetically having sex with a 16-year old is not statutory rape in Alabama. Not is it an act of philia (see definition). And it was generally more acceptable for older men to have relations with much younger women in those days. The current prime minister of Canada was conceived as a result of his father's relationship with a woman 30 years younger (just turned 18 at the time). Along with many other similar cases.

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[TheGreatA]

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At worst Roy Moore could be condemned as an ebhebophile (sexual attraction to girls in their late teenage years) which is not considered a pathological disorder by psychiatrists.

 

[Rational Poster]

At worst Roy Moore could be condemned as an ebhebophile (sexual attraction to girls in their late teenage years) which is not considered a pathological disorder by psychiatrists.

Who fucking cares about this semantic bullshit?

Roy Moore cruised high schools malls for young girls well into his 30s while working for the state. Some of whom he very likely stat raped.

 

[TheGreatA]

Who fucking cares about this semantic bullshit?

Roy Moore cruised high schools malls for young girls well into his 30s while working for the state. Some of whom he very likely stat raped.

If that's the story you're running with, then fine. Just pointing out the holes in it.

 

[Rational Poster]

If that's the story you're running with, then fine. Just pointing out the holes in it.

You didn't point out any holes in my story.

 

[HomerThompson]

I'm just pointing out the incorrect facts that people are riding on.

Roy Moore hypothetically having sex with a 16-year old is not statutory rape in Alabama. Not is it an act of philia (see definition). And it was generally more acceptable for older men to have relations with much younger women in those days. The current prime minister of Canada was conceived as a result of his father's relationship with a woman 30 years younger (just turned 18 at the time). Along with many other similar cases.

 

[TheGreatA]

You didn't point out any holes in my story.

You were claiming that @oleDirtyBast4rd was wrong about the age of consent laws in Alabama. From what I could gather, he wasn't. He said, correctly, that it was 16 in Alabama.

I felt prompted to step up in his defense considering that he was being relentlessly shamed and shut down by the usual leftist crew (along with moderator assistance).

 

[Jkillah]

Roy Moore was a terrible candidate and not a good person. The Republicans deserved to lose. If they would have picked anyone decent they would have won that election.

 

[Bald1]

Who fucking cares about this semantic bullshit?

Roy Moore cruised high schools malls for young girls well into his 30s while working for the state. Some of whom he very likely stat raped.

Weren't you involved in an argument about "this semantic bullshit" where as a result you got labeled a apologist due to the distinction between pre and post pubescent sex?

 

[44nutman]

 

[Deleted member 429137]

I said society itself needs to take more responsibility about policing morality without the need to resort to a faceless state bureacrat and the draconian prison system.

You mocked that notion for some reason.

Oh, my apologies. I legitimately did not mean to mock you. I just meant to disagree with you.

So who decides which moral wrongs are addressed by law or not? consistency is all i ask. Similar to how weed is illegal and alcohol is legal.

It sounds like society has decided what should be illegal and what should not. I think you can advocate for change to the laws, but you should not then appoint society to be a morality police for the things that are not legal. I have never seen that do more good than harm.

Society policed itself really well in the Moore debacle, same with the Weinsten debacle.

It took society 2000 Christian years to get to get to this point. And the reason the law failed in these cases is because society didn't think it was sufficiently an issue to uphold the law. It's only now that women are able to speak out against powerful abusers and see results.

Society tends to shit the bed where morals are concerned.

To me adultery, dating teens, prostitution and exchanging job offers for sex all fall into moral sexual perversions, yet for some reason certain societies around the world decide that some of them require the intervention of the State to be solved.

Well, some people disagree with you. Some people look back at our thousands of years of morality policing and see all the damage that has been done. Some of us say we should make secular, health-based laws, using modern studies for guidance when applicable, then let the police do their job while we all shut the fuck up and worry about our own lives instead of punishing people for adultery. Adultery can have legal consequences anyways, so there is no need to get involved.

 

[Revolver]

Did he give a reason why?

Needed a safe space.