Affliction impressions

[HHJ]

Dana was seething after Tim lost this.

Then he made it even worse when he gained 50 pounds and got brutalized by Ray mercer.

He never forgave Tim after that. Didn't allow him to come to ufc events, or back to the ufc, even denied him a spot in power slap, lol

That was a tough loss for Tim. Even Fedor, normally unemotional, was like "Well.... that was FAST, hot diggity dawg"

 

[TRYHARD 2001]

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What was the dude choking Dana's name? I used to know it but time and substance abuse has stripped me of that knowledge it would seem.

 

[NoSmilez]

Affliction failed because they thought Fedor or HWs could carry PPV sales. They were overpaying everyone. Rothwell was getting 250k. Forum posters were really big on that promotion but it didn't represent the mainstream. The promotion was just a big loss for that company. I don't think Barnett killed the promotion. Barnett testing positive helped the promotion from losing more money. It was the last show anyways but they didn't even try to find a replacement.

 

[TeenageMutantLesnarTurtle]

I really liked it. Both cards were decently stacked and it had its own aesthetic and look which is something PFL/Bellator really should have learned from. Try to be an alternative not just a cheap knock off.

I wish it could have continued. I suppose it would have effected Strikeforces trajectory though ie Fedor never would have gone to SF etc.

Seriously how much stronger did MMA used to be in the US - SF, Affliction, WEC and EliteXC were all around at the same time, albeit briefly.

 

[dog y]

No, I mean I wonder what happened to the actual physical belt, I wonder who has it

We need an answer. Probably the third most prestigious belt in MMA. Ever.
I know Wanderlei has the Saku belt and Minowaman has the Super Hluk belt. Legends.

 

[dog y]

Affliction failed because they thought Fedor or HWs could carry PPV sales. They were overpaying everyone. Rothwell was getting 250k. Forum posters were really big on that promotion but it didn't represent the mainstream. The promotion was just a big loss for that company. I don't think Barnett killed the promotion. Barnett testing positive helped the promotion from losing more money. It was the last show anyways but they didn't even try to find a replacement.

They did try to find a replacement, actually.
I remember some guys turning it down. Tito and Vitor being the bigger names. Both asked for insurmountable amounts and catch weight.


Affliction rocked. If you disagree, you're a pussy.

 

[NoSmilez]

They did try to find a replacement, actually.
I remember some guys turning it down. Tito and Vitor being the bigger names. Both asked for insurmountable amounts and catch weight.


Affliction rocked. If you disagree, you're a pussy.

The pay was 500k. Someone would have took it.

It doesn’t matter if folks on the forum loved it or not. Affliction sold few PPVs.

 

[Tweak896]

I was at the first Affliction event, was actually my first mma event in person. Getting to see Megadeth in between fights was wild. The event just had this energy I never felt again. Watching Fedor Zulu Sylvia at the end just got me so pumped as a finale. It's a shame it went bankrupt. Affliction was a successful clothing company backed by money, yet shows how fragile mma is as a business. Paying too much can end profitability.

 

[The_Renaissance]

Really enjoyed them, stacked and felt like a real spectacle.

 

[skylolow]

It was great, what wasn't great was the business model.

Here is the AC's report on the payouts for Affliction Banned and remember this was 2008 and fighters making over 100K was reserved for the top tier talent for the most part in the MMA. Plus some of these well known guys were well past there prime and no one else was lining them up to pay them like 90K like Babalu or 300K for Lindland.

Fedor Emelianenko: $300,000 (no win bonus) (Had a stipulation with M-1 Global, Most believe Fedor made around 1M to 1.5M for this fight)
def. Tim Sylvia: $800,000

Andrei Arlovski: $750,000 (includes $250,000 win bonus)
def. Ben Rothell: $250,000

Josh Barnett: $300,000 (no win bonus)
def. Pedro Rizzo: $70,000

Mark Hominick: $10,000 (includes $5,000 win bonus)
def. Savant Young: $7,000

Renato “Babalu” Sobral: $90,000 (includes $30,000 win bonus)
def: Mike Whitehead: $50,000

Matt Lindland: $300,000 (includes $75,000 win bonus)
def. Fabio Nascimento: $20,00O

Antonio Rogerio Nogueira: $50,000 (no win bonus)
def. Edwin Dewees: $15,000

Mike Pyle: $20,000 (includes $5,000 win bonus)
JJ Ambrose: $5,000

Ray Lizama: $3,000
vs. Justin Levens: $6000*

Vitor Belfort: $140,000 (includes $70,000 win bonus)
Terry Martin: $30,000

Paul Buentello: $80,000 (includes $20,000 win bonus)
vs. Gary Goodridge: $25,000


Affliction events a basically showed promoters that "if you build it, they will come" doesn't really work in MMA. Though many promoters after this kept trying to tell everyone fighters first blah blah blah and everyone of them failed. Only company that doesn't put fighters first is worth billions today and does over a billion in revenue yearly.

 

[Haj01]

I just loved that era of MMA. We had so many variety of promotions and I watched all of them. Couldn't get enough. UFC was always the best but I loved these shows such as Elite FC and Strikeforce. They were all good at promoting the fighters back story and hyping their fighters. At least from what I remember I was always heavily invested in the fighters. I just couldn't get enough of mma back then. That was like my golden era.

 

[Ace70 V2]

Did anyone think Arlovski had a shot against Fedor? I know he looked good for 20 seconds, but come on man.

 

[Fishmonger]

What was the dude choking Dana's name? I used to know it but time and substance abuse has stripped me of that knowledge it would seem.

tom atencio

 

[Lord Pyjamas]

What I take from this is that you just watched it again and felt you needed to to this.
Without videos or anything interesting.

 

[STAY GOLD]

Vitor’s flying knee on Terry Martin is always slept on.

 

[HHJ]

Barnett testing positive helped the promotion from losing more money.

No it didnt, they had to cancel it like the day of the show.

That is a massive loss of money, already. Think of all the ticket sales they had to return after renting a fucking arena

 

[HHJ]

What I take from this is that you just watched it again and felt you needed to to this.
Without videos or anything interesting.

No

Your takes are always pretty off the mark

 

[HHJ]

Did anyone think Arlovski had a shot against Fedor? I know he looked good for 20 seconds, but come on man.

Fedor was always the favorite, but this was a long anticipated sort of "dream" match for fans and Fedor had something like 27 wins in a row at this point.

Some people thought well how much longer can he keep beating everyone and that was an added element.

 

[HHJ]

What was the dude choking Dana's name? I used to know it but time and substance abuse has stripped me of that knowledge it would seem.

@Substance Abuse give the man back his mind pls

 

[Bowel-forged Stool]

I didn’t read the text wall, but Affliction was 100% my favorite mma organization, and for good reason! They literally gave you more than what you paid for!