Its not 'talking in circles' by repeating the cracks in your argument that you can't dispute.
*You can't quote any of the letters you supposedly read, or even look up the quotes you supposedly read.
*You constantly say 'See the Documentary' although you haven't seen it.
*You're and admitted liar.
The letters were taken out of context within the trailer.
Did you bother to see it?
They put special empasis on the 'What Stuff!' quote.
But according to the Wiki about Lincoln's sexuality, here's the full context -
en.m.wikipedia.org
"Elizabeth Woodbury Fox, the wife of Lincoln's naval aide, wrote in her diary for November 16, 1862, "Tish says, 'Oh, there is a Bucktail soldier here devoted to the president, drives with him, and when Mrs. L. is not home, sleeps with him.' What stuff!"[16] This sleeping arrangement was also mentioned by a fellow officer in Derickson's regiment, Thomas Chamberlin, in the book History of the One Hundred and Fiftieth Regiment Pennsylvania Volunteers, Second Regiment, Bucktail Brigade. Historian Martin P. Johnson states that the strong similarity in style and content of the Fox and Chamberlin accounts suggests that, rather than being two independent accounts of the same events as Tripp claims, both were based on the same report from a single source.[45] David Donald and Johnson both dispute Tripp's interpretation of Fox's comment, saying that the exclamation of "What stuff!" was, in that day, an exclamation over the absurdity of the suggestion rather than the gossip value of it (as in the phrase "stuff and nonsense").[46]
Who wants to bet the documentary also leaves out this needed context?
The trailer I posted and created the thread about?
Lmao you literally watched it because I brought it up. Its a trailer.
So not only do you not understand how most credible documentaries work by presenting multiple view points.... You dont even understand that the movie trailer shouldn't have all or some of the most critical pieces of evediednce in it or else nobody needs to watch the movie...lol
Again. Nobody can discredit the doc until they watch it. Could be good could be bad.
Its OK for you to support all the shitty speculation that supports your preconceived notions and hope that Lincoln wasn't clapping man cheeks. While you cry speculation about the other side.
Please stop misusing "out of context." Putting an additional explanation for a subjective claim about what "what stuff" could have meant according to a historian's opinion is not "out of context."
You started this whole conversation dismissing the notion that historians should be able to pass off their interpretations as facts. Now, every one of your new justifications contains a historians opinion. As long as it supports your hope.
Please try to be consistent with your logic and justifications & apply them both ways.
I don't have an argument. You're making a strawman because you cant cope with the simple & logical criteria I set up to judge these wild claims.
My point for the 5th time since you are having trouble twisting it:
-This is brand new to me. Never heard these allegations before.
-The world doesn't revolve around me. I also don't know everything. So it is 100% possible that this was a controversy prior to "LGBTQ woke culture." & boom what do you know. Its been a thing since the 90s. & It was a thing even in that time period 170 years ago when these accounts were documented.
-A dead dude with a beard being gay does NOTHING for the homosexual community. So if they were going to pick a president to carry this out they could of picked a much better one. All this does is trigger the right & fake moderates.
-The documentary could be informative or it could be a complete piece of crap. Happens a lot with documentaries. The ones that look good suck...& the ones that look boring and uninspiring are real sleepers!
-My mind is open to either scenario. I would need the documentary to somewhat prove or show
1. That Lincoln shared a bed with a man while his wife was out of town on a DC summer night. Waking up in eachothers' clothes.
2. Letters from Lincoln that were similar to love notes i passed in class to girls when I was a kid at the least.
3. The people who wrote or made the claims back then were credible.
That's pretty reasonable. I set my standard prior to watching. I'll stick with my standard, unlike you Mr. Cold Illinois' Winters. BRRRRRRRR
