A possible Iran war with minimal US forces on the ground

[Cuauhtemoc]

So everyone can go home early it's not going to be another Syria or Afghanistan. This will end quick and this has been the history of Persia. Invasions came quick and the nation folded real quick and the same thing will repeat itself.

Tell that to Saddam, LOL.

 

[TribalDrumz]

Iran would ruin US soldiers on the ground... US only chance is airstrike the shit out of them.

 

[Seaside]

So Iran is the cause of the regional unrest...?

saudi is and pakistan is i think bigger threat to west and world but iran not harmless.

It will the US and their allies "The Axis of incompetence".
Good luck fighting the Iranians with those guys.

Iran cant be able to defeat the Arab united armies and factor in US, UK aerial bombing campaign, hardcore sanctions and large majority of islamic world against Iran. It dont matter how smart and good fighters iran ground forces are massive UK and US aerial strike with aid of saudis and ground forces by arab armies will out number Iran.

Look the Saudis have most of the Arab world and non Arab in Turkey united with them (and Pakistan) to destroy Yemen and implement there rule there.

Turkey
Saudi Arabia

Well I look forward to seeing how the S-400 anti aircraft systems Iran has, will stand up against US made air.

My guess, is that it is a good time to buy Lockheed, Raytheon, and Boeing stock, as they are about to have plenty of replacement orders coming in, if this happens.

US will own Iran.

 

[Seaside]

Iran would ruin US soldiers on the ground... US only chance is airstrike the shit out of them.

I doubt the US will. They owned Iraq easily and can own anyone if they go genocidal (against russians and chinese), but i think they learn lesson of occupying and not mass killing in iraq. I think they will use the massive political support of the arab and rest of muslim world. Any ground force would be arab, turkish, western mercenaries, and only intelligence offers of US.

EU wont be crying when most of the oil producing countries are against Iran and when US and UK are, not mention Turkey and pakistan are against Iran.

iran is fucked

 

[TribalDrumz]

I doubt the US will. They owned Iraq easily and can own anyone if they go genocidal (against russians and chinese), but i think they learn lesson of occupying and not mass killing in iraq. I think they will use the massive political support of the arab and rest of muslim world.

EU wont be crying when most of the oil producing countries are against Iran and when US and UK are, not mention Turkey and pakistan are against Iran.

iran is fucked

US could barely occupy Iraq and Afghanistan you really think Iran will be easy? Ya good luck in those mountains,forests and shit. Iran isnt some giant desert.

 

[bigkick]

Secretary Bolton, is that you?

 

[Sauron]

Iran is most definitely a bad actor. Not even going into the regional problems that they produce for 3rd party actors, including our allies, and just keeping to things that they have done to the US, they are definitely an enemy.

They funneled weapons, technology, and fighters into Iraq. The most egregious example of this are the EFPs, an extremely deadly form of IED that killed Americans in Iraq.

They have launched cyber attacks on Saudi Aramco and the US stock market, and potentially others.

Their government continues to needle us at every turn, actively pursuing nuclear weapons.

I fail to understand how any reasonable person can think that they are "good guys." Any explanation of this position will invariably involve, "But the US!..."

The US invaded and occupied Iraq illegally - a country that borders Iran and is 1000's of miles away from the US.

The US launched stuxnex: an attack on civilian nuclear infrastructure.

...but the US...

 

[Seaside]

US could barely occupy Iraq and Afghanistan you really think Iran will be easy? Ya good luck in those mountains,forests and shit. Iran isnt some giant desert.

did you not read what i said?

1) they can easily win if they go genocidal or scorch earth. which they wont do i doubt but they will go hardcore on bombing to ruin iranian offensive and military strike ability.

2) They wont occupy iran if they are smart. I think they will let the massive coalition of arab armies, turks, and pakistan and tens of thousand of mercenaries do it to capture Tehran and overthrow government.

Iran cannot possibly survive all by itself when it best ally syria is ruined and lebanon is attacking israel and getting ass whooped and by US.

 

[Sauron]

Shia hit squads in Iraq were not "defending" against invaders. There were no American soldiers deployed to Iran. These Iranian Shia hit squads were capturing American contractors, decapitating them on camera, and then hanging them from bridges in public before putting the videos on the internet to literally terrorize everyone.

You simply haven't a clue what you're talking about.

You realise that Iraq is majority Shia, right?

 

[Happy Man]

Shia hit squads in Iraq were not "defending" against invaders. There were no American soldiers deployed to Iran. These Iranian Shia hit squads were capturing American contractors, decapitating them on camera, and then hanging them from bridges in public before putting the videos on the internet to literally terrorize everyone.

You simply haven't a clue what you're talking about.

Those Shia hit squads pacified Baghdad one terrorist at a time. They did a good job stopping the bombing of civilian markets, places of worship and meeting places. Our forces didn't mind the pressure the terrorists were putting on the Shia of Iraq.

Calling bulllshit on the beheading of Americans by Shia. And even hanging from bridges, that was the sunnis of fallujah. Shia, They don't do that. I practically live on liveleak and have seen it all. Never saw any of the that. Link a vid. They did attack Our forces though. They took a line out of our presidents mantra of "fight them there instead of here". Really dumb of our neocon warhawks to keep saying Iran is next. They began defending themselves from what was seen as inevitable invasion, and for better or worse, it's still a legitimate action and not terrorism.

 

[TribalDrumz]

did you not read what i said?

1) they can easily win if they go genocidal or scorch earth. which they wont do i doubt but they will go hardcore on bombing to ruin iranian offensive and military strike ability.

2) They wont occupy iran if they are smart. I think they will let the massive coalition of arab armies, turks, and pakistan and tens of thousand of mercenaries do it to capture Tehran and overthrow government.

Iran cannot possibly survive all by itself when it best ally syria is ruined and lebanon is attacking israel and getting ass whooped and by US.

Nobody said Iran would win but it wouldnt be easy at all. USA lost so many soldiers in Iraq,Afghanistan imagine Iran.. It's not going to be fucking pakistan or turks fighting Iran . You don't know shit about Iran except what you probably read on Fox news and them being a "supporter of terror"

 

[mrsenor]

 

[Sauron]

They won't be doing much of this Invasion anyways except for paying for the expenses and using minimal ground forces and airstrikes. Turkey, US, NATO, Pakistan and Egypt will probably dive in head first and do the hard lifting.

Reality check: of those countries: Turkey, NATO, Pakistan and Egypt would not partake in any such conflict. Saudi can't even get those countries to participate in Yemen. Saudi and Turkish relations are at an all time low. Iran and Pakistan are energy dependent. Trump won't be able to rally NATO to attack Iran. Egypt can barely feed its people, and is turning away from Saudi.

Sometimes a basic knowledge of politics is required to have these discussions. FFS this is embarassing.

 

[Seaside]

Nobody said Iran would win but it wouldnt be easy at all. USA lost so many soldiers in Iraq,Afghanistan imagine Iran.. It's not going to be fucking pakistan or turks fighting Iran . You don't know shit about Iran except what you probably read on Fox news and them being a "supporter of terror"

i am not american never, dont live there not been there, and critcize american foreign policy all time. I just saying facts Iran is a terror supporter and a less worse pakistan or saudi arabia.

and i just speak fact. American military is not something underestimate. they lost what 5000 in iraq? maybe a few thousand in afghanistan and all that was from soldiers being car bombed or picked off from occupying. I saying i doubt they will occupy Iran they wont need to because of large arab and other muslim country coalition.

 

[Deleted member 457759]

And the US was bombing Iraq to terrorize everyone.

Shock and awe it was called.

Stop making shit up. This comment is nothing more than self loathing manifestation of your hatred for America. "Shock and Awe" was clearly a strategy to force the enemy to submit. It was absolutely a desire of America to bring the Iraqi people onto their side and convince them they were being liberated. Whether they were liberated or not is up for debate, but that was the intent. Now I understand you lefties don't give a shit about intent, but ethical people still do!

 

[Seaside]

Reality check: of those countries: Turkey, NATO, Pakistan and Egypt would not partake in any such conflict. Saudi can't even get those countries to participate in Yemen. Saudi and Turkish relations are at an all time low. Iran and Pakistan are energy dependent. Trump won't be able to rally NATO to attack Iran. Egypt can barely feed its people, and is turning away from Saudi.

Sometimes a basic knowledge of politics is required to have these discussions. FFS this is embarassing.

new flash.

nothing in international policy or war can be predicted by nobodies on internet. the #1 rule of a dumbass is to think that XYZ stuff ´´´´cant happen´´´´. That how many countries lose war because they run on belief that ´´´´oh that wont happen´´´and then it does!

 

[dragonsfly]

US could barely occupy Iraq and Afghanistan you really think Iran will be easy? Ya good luck in those mountains,forests and shit. Iran isnt some giant desert.

Wow. you have flawed ideas about Irans military.

1. they have outdated military hardware and second of all there is little moral nowadays. People are tired with protests here and there due to worsening economy. The majority don't even agree with the regime who has become fanatic.

2. Turkey alone can successful invade Iran and occupy them. Pakistan can also invade and occupy iran basically annexing it. They are really nothing to worry about. They will fold faster then the Kurds did when they see that this is serious bussiness and not just playing around.

 

[Deleted member 457759]

You realise that Iraq is majority Shia, right?

Yes. You do realize that this made it easier for Iran to kill US soldiers in Iraq right?

 

[Deleted member 457759]

Iran would ruin US soldiers on the ground... US only chance is airstrike the shit out of them.

lol, Yes because it's not like the US military has a wealth of experience in the middle east and better training or anything.

You guys are hilarious.

 

[Sauron]

new flash.

nothing in international policy or war can be predicted by nobodies on internet. the #1 rule of a dumbass is to think that XYZ stuff ´´´´cant happen´´´´. That how many countries lose war because they run on belief that ´´´´oh that wont happen´´´and then it does!

Please

Is this the excuse you're going with. These are basic facts of life at the moment. Your argument seems to be 'anything is possible' regardless of the facts.

This is like an eagle, a salmon, an otter and a bear getting together to fight a kangaroo. It literally makes no sense in nature or geography for that matter.