A lot of people are reviewing their stance on Fedor being one of the greatest of all time

[Pequeño Corey]

No one is changing their stance.
Only dishonest haters lying to see if anyone joins him.

Must be a troll. No one could possibly say something that stupid and be serious.

 

[C0NCH3TO]

only a beta chump changes his mind about something that is so proven throughout the years and even decades. FEDOR IS STILL THE GOAT to me. I dont jump ships like a hoe jumping from dick to dick.

 

[CrimsonFan]

Someone would have to win atleast 20 or so hw fights in a row to be considered. Fedor ddint have a loss for what.. 32 fights?

Yeah even if you say half were cans, that's still 15 really tough guys. More than alot of guys win streaks

 

[Fioretti]

The division is shit. It’s so shit the dinosaurs Like Aa, Sergei, Reem, Big Ben, Etc are all a win or two away from contending or titles. Hell if Werdum won last month he would be in title contention already too. The champ you talk about beating Werdum:
If you recall the actual fight no one said Stipe did something special everyone said Werdum was retarded in his approach and game plan. Stipe hasn’t beaten anyone young and in their prime aside from a very green and raw ford escort. He got dropped by 100 fights old Ecoreem, beaten by JDS in the first fight, beaten soundly by a young struve and a very of fat LHW recently who he is now clearly ducking and holding up the division in the process.

Feel better? Seems you wanted to get that out. Regardless of the current state of the division, the guy who I responded to had a very flawed theory on it.

Fedor lost to Werdum, Bigfoot, and Hendo almost a decade ago. He lost to Mitrione and Bader recently. He obviously isn't a lock for champion today.

 

[SamboPunch]

Wouldn't include Fedor in top 10 greatest fighters of all time lmao

 

[Morning Star]

He's HW GOAT no question IMO, and top 5 all time as well. Him, Silva, GSP, Jones, and Aldo are probably my top 5 all time.

 

[TR1]

Hunt was way too green for Fedor. 40 years old Hunt >>>>>> The green no zero grappling Hunt who was subbed in less than 2 mins by Mousasi, a MW.

Hunt admitted he was depressed and barely training when he lost to Moose.

He showed no improved grappling in the UFC from his PRIDE days, but he sure as hell was older and more damaged and slower.

 

[QcChopper]

Having Conor over Fedor, you gotta be shrooming!

 

[frye666]

Fucks sake. Old man Fedor is 8-2 his last 10 fights. After what, 500 full contact fights? And you are ripping on him?

 

[Taric]

Hunt was way too green for Fedor. 40 years old Hunt >>>>>> The green no zero grappling Hunt who was subbed in less than 2 mins by Mousasi, a MW.

Hunt was 5-3 in PRIDE and was 8-8 in the UFC, but he's a better fighter while having a worse record and also being vastly older?

Watching Sherdogers trip over their own two feet is amazing to me.

 

[ThunderStruck]

Hunt was 5-3 in PRIDE and was 8-8 in the UFC, but he's a better fighter while having a worse record and also being vastly older?

Watching Sherdogers trip over their own two feet is amazing to me.

Yeah just look at the record and not look into the context. Hunt had zero ground game and zero sub defense in pride. It's only later on in the ufc that he developped a decent TDD.

Fedor took 8 mins to sub Hunt, Mousasi (MW fighter) 1 mins 20 seconds.

 

[ThunderStruck]

Hunt admitted he was depressed and barely training when he lost to Moose.

He showed no improved grappling in the UFC from his PRIDE days, but he sure as hell was older and more damaged and slower.

HE showed a greatly improved TDD.

 

[Hotei]

With the use of technology, we have the opportunity to demystify "Prime Fedor"

What???

 

[613]

Jordan's ppg on the Wizards were 22.9 and 20.0, which is literally 2/3rds of his scoring average on the Bulls (career high of 37.1).
Grezky's points on the Rangers were 72, 67, and 53, which is literally 1/3rd of his scoring average on the Oilers (career high of 215).

/stats

Every athlete gets significantly worse as they get older, even the absolute best to ever do it. That's just how sport works.

Uh..... You posted Gretzky's assists on the rangers not his points. Obviously he was no where close to his prime, but his real stats with the Rangers was 62 (and he got injured) 90 and 97. The 90 and 97 were still close to the top of the league and that was when scoring was way down from his Oilers days. Jordan and Gretzky at the end of their careers were still top player , even if they were not as good as they once were. It's nothing like a Fedor or Anderson

 

[Fenn]

Whether or not he would "cut it" in today's division doesn't mean shit. You gauge athletes against their competition at the time. You think Babe Ruth would be as good as he was in today's MLB? Of course not. But he's one of the greatest ever because of how good he was vs the competition of his time.

Same goes for Fedor. How dominant he was in his time should in no way be discounted because fighters have gotten better since then. He's still one of the GOATS and will always be one of the GOATS of this sport.

This is a good post.

 

[Taric]

Uh..... You posted Gretzky's assists on the rangers not his points. Obviously he was no where close to his prime, but his real stats with the Rangers was 62 (and he got injured) 90 and 97. The 90 and 97 were still close to the top of the league and that was when scoring was way down from his Oilers days. Jordan and Gretzky at the end of their careers were still top player , even if they were not as good as they once were. It's nothing like a Fedor or Anderson

Ah, you're right. I misread the wrong column for his Ranger days. I apologize. So he was 97, 90, and 62 in his last years. Which was 2/3rds (instead of 1/3rd) of his scoring average on the Oilers (career high of 215).

... This still doesn't help your case. Jordan and Grekzy were both measurably worse later in their careers. That isn't an opinion, it's simply a statement of fact. Consistently producing 2/3rds of your former production in the real world, because you are incapable of producing your former production, will get your fired.

 

[Franklin U.]

This is still a young sport - and you can say , pretty much, the same shit about every division........especially the really light divisions where it took awhile for truly elite talent to be facilitated into top promotions. Lol - if u disqualify Fedor, who wasnt a large heavy, as one of the goats then there are no heavy goats. Then only the ones that are legit are after or during " the evolution period" - I'll , arguably ,call that period from 07, 08 - 17. Since then- the sport has flattened out ( " evolving as in the sport" - now fighters just evolve as fighters. Its also become mainstream. ). I dont know if I successfully expressed that the way I wanted but - whatever.

We have plenty of years ( hopefully) and data on different fighters to figure out over the course of time for these goat discussions- not that theres anything wrong with having them now . It's a fight forum.

Fedor had his reign during his time and it was one helluva one. Lol- it's not like he has 1 or 2 names on his ledger. Fedor got complacent with the combination of regressing after quite a run.Fedor stuck with same people, nutritionist wasnt even in his dictionary and just rode out on his fumes ( like so many from his time).

Yeah- ok - Fedor wasnt one of the greats. Lol.

 

[Fioretti]

Fucks sake. Old man Fedor is 8-2 his last 10 fights. After what, 500 full contact fights? And you are ripping on him?

This is fair. However, it's also fair to assess it properly. How many of those guys were ranked? That's a common theme throughout Fedor's career. He's too old to be fighting anymore. Both him and Anderson should've retired 6-8 years ago.

 

[Franklin U.]

This is fair. However, it's also fair to assess it properly. How many of those guys were ranked? That's a common theme throughout Fedor's career. He's too old to be fighting anymore. Both him and Anderson should've retired 6-8 years ago.

Yes - Fedor is 8-2 ( whatever poster said) but it wasnt a " fedor-ian" 8-2. - context- Hes clearly not even a top heavy anymore. .I also agree with Anderson and to his credit , he fights to his age and still actually competitive. I'd like to see him hang em up before he is separated from consciousness from someone that shouldnt. I really dont want to see that . Hes 46- call it a day.

 

[Fioretti]

Yes - Fedor is 8-2 ( whatever poster said) but it wasnt a " fedor-ian" 8-2. - context- Hes clearly not even a top heavy anymore. .I also agree with Anderson and to his credit , he fights to his age and still actually competitive. I'd like to see him hang em up before he is separated from consciousness from someone that shouldnt. I really dont want to see that . Hes 46- call it a day.

Silva is 45, but yeah, I agree. He was talking about retiring almost 10 years ago. He should've.