A lot of people are reviewing their stance on Fedor being one of the greatest of all time

[613]

Ah, you're right. I misread the wrong column for his Ranger days. I apologize. So he was 97, 90, and 62 in his last years. Which was 2/3rds (instead of 1/3rd) of his scoring average on the Oilers (career high of 215).

... This still doesn't help your case. Jordan and Grekzy were both measurably worse later in their careers. That isn't an opinion, it's simply a statement of fact. Consistently producing 2/3rds of your former production in the real world, because you are incapable of producing your former production, will get your fired.

Scoring was way down A whole. And AGAIN (since you didn't get it the first two times) I am not saying they were as good as their prime. I am saying they were still elite. They were both still All Star players and Gretzky was on the Olympic team still. In the real world of your production drops , but you are still one of the best in the world you don't get fired.

My point is their later years were nothing like Fedor's later years. Fedor had fallen much further and is no longer close to elite. Gretzky and Jordan still were at the end of their careers

 

[Taric]

Gretzky and Jordan still were at the end of their careers

... But they weren't. Kobe was out there putting 20ish ppg in his final years too, was he elite? No, of course not. He fell off.

 

[NoContest]

Nog beat Werdum by decision, then lost to Werdum by submission in their rematch, 7 years later.

Werdum subbed both Nog and Fedor, so not sure where you're going with this.

I misremembered but that just makes my point stronger.

 

[Fioretti]

I misremembered but that just makes my point stronger.

I don't see how that makes your point stronger? Unless I misinterpreted your initial statement?

 

[Islam Imamate]

Whether or not he would "cut it" in today's division doesn't mean shit. You gauge athletes against their competition at the time. You think Babe Ruth would be as good as he was in today's MLB? Of course not. But he's one of the greatest ever because of how good he was vs the competition of his time.

Same goes for Fedor. How dominant he was in his time should in no way be discounted because fighters have gotten better since then. He's still one of the GOATS and will always be one of the GOATS of this sport.

Let's be real, Prime Fedor would do fine in the modern UFC HW division which has regressed if anything. Ngannou, Stipe, and especially DC could beat him but they could also lose to Fedor and the rest of the division wouldn't give him much trouble outside the usual puncher's chance.

 

[mmafan559]

jesus christ this take is just dumb as fuck

 

[benebox]

Who cares about manlet made up p4p lists when you are the real (none of this hypothetical if an ant was the size of an elephant nonsese) GOAT.

 

[Pakman]

It’s pretty much the same Reem, AA, Big Ben, Werdum are all top 15 today too. Hell mirko just retired on a winning streak

not, it’s not, and a post like this should get you dubs.
Hw today is AWFUL. There is no depth.

 

[Shaddows]

Must be a troll. No one could possibly say something that stupid and be serious.

I agree.
People who are not dishonest biased haters don't change their opinion based on a dumbass who claims he changed his.

 

[DatSamboKid]

jesus christ this take is just dumb as fuck

Why so?

 

[Rod Farva]

I changed my stance from definitely the GOAT to most definitely the GOAT

 

[laz0001]

Scoring was way down A whole. And AGAIN (since you didn't get it the first two times) I am not saying they were as good as their prime. I am saying they were still elite. They were both still All Star players and Gretzky was on the Olympic team still. In the real world of your production drops , but you are still one of the best in the world you don't get fired.

My point is their later years were nothing like Fedor's later years. Fedor had fallen much further and is no longer close to elite. Gretzky and Jordan still were at the end of their careers

How has fedor fallen way off? He’s BEYOND the twilight years of his career (heavyweights very rarely put together 20 fights, let alone nearly 40) - and he’s 8-2 in his last ten, only losing to Bader (the Bellator champ) and Mitrione. Even in his last 10 fights, he hasn’t been fighting cans. Rampage (a ufc champ), (Mir, a ufc champ), (rizzo- again, an ex ufc champ), ishii, (Olympic gold medalist) and Monson (a monster vet of 81 fights)

Seriously, the guy’s nickname should be the “UFC champ killer”

Mitrione is probably the FIRST lower level fighter that Fedor has lost against. Losing to Werdum, who was a UFC champ and multi time BJJ champ, losing to a roided up 40lbs heavier Bigfoot, and losing to Hendo are not things to be ashamed of - and Fedor hadalready had 30 ‘heavyweight’ fights by that point, so was likely already well past his prime.

 

[jjjjjjjjjjohnny]

Fedor - no one else compares at HW.

 

[Oldman1]

Lol at all the crying fedor huggers