A lot of people are reviewing their stance on Fedor being one of the greatest of all time

[Fioretti]

Fedor is the GOAT this is the reality,nobody can beat Fedor Prime.

it is not a matter of opinion,Fedor is the GOAT is reality.

It's absolutely an opinion. In reality.

 

[TR1]

Bro, your infantile approach is comical. It was a garbage fight against an unworthy challenger. Just like the other 4 fights between Mirko and Sylvia. I didn't even specify Hunt or call any of them garbage "wins". You're fishing for an internet fight to protect your hero based on my factual statements and correcting another's mistake.

Grow the fuck up, boy.

If you don't like arguing on a forum, feel free to leave noob.

Your level of argument is garbage, that much is clear.

Good to know the UFC gives out garbage title shots to its top champs left and right.

 

[Fioretti]

Both Jordan and Gretzky were still elite at the end of their careers. Jordan was 40 and dropping 24ppg while Gretzky had back to back 90 plus point sessions before his last season

I'm still mad Jordan ruined his stats and played for another team. Fuck.

 

[phenomphan2]

Fedor is GOAT. People forget how good Cro Cop, Nog, Coleman, Randleman were in their primes.

 

[Taric]

Both Jordan and Gretzky were still elite at the end of their careers. Jordan was 40 and dropping 24ppg while Gretzky had back to back 90 plus point sessions before his last season

Jordan's ppg on the Wizards were 22.9 and 20.0, which is literally 2/3rds of his scoring average on the Bulls (career high of 37.1).
Grezky's points on the Rangers were 72, 67, and 53, which is literally 1/3rd of his scoring average on the Oilers (career high of 215).

/stats

Every athlete gets significantly worse as they get older, even the absolute best to ever do it. That's just how sport works.

 

[Fioretti]

If you don't like arguing on a forum, feel free to leave noob.

Your level of argument is garbage, that much is clear.

Good to know the UFC gives out garbage title shots to its top champs left and right.

My level of argument is garbage? Stating facts and correcting less informed fanaticals on their errors? Haven't even begun to argue, but it's clear that even attempting to do so with someone of your mindset is pointless. You're bringing up irrelevant shit like Nick Diaz for what? Because you didn't like my factual statement. That's little kid shit, homie.

 

[gspieler]

Anderson's peak was roughly 9-10 years ago, Fedor about 10-11 after Arlovski and Sylvia back to back. The Cro Cop fight was 15 years ago and he had 5 garbage fights in between Mirko and Sylvia.

Peak Fedor was about '03-'08. Peak Anderson was about '06-'11. Peak GSP was about '07-'11.

 

[NoSmilez]

Fedor is Goat for now. I just dont like how people can't accept that he would be undersized today. The sport passed him on.

 

[CinemaKingdom]

I mean, MARK HUNT of all people (at 40+) was still a contender a couple years ago... Overeem still is... I don't even mention the shell of Arlovski, which is still good enough to regularly win fights.

Exactly, the fact that top guys from 15 YEARS ago are still around and in the top 10-15 shows how weak it is now. Go back a couple of years and it was loaded with the dudes from that time period.

 

[CinemaKingdom]

Fedor is Goat for now. I just dont like how people can't accept that he would be undersized today. The sport passed him on.

The sport hasn't past anything. Fedor is in his mid 40s now. The fighters didn't get better, he just got old. The fighters at HW are actually worse now. Much worse.

 

[Fioretti]

Peak Fedor was about '03-'08. Peak Anderson was about '06-'11. Peak GSP was about '07-'11.

I think we're agreeing mostly. I personally would give 2 years or so for "peak", not 4-5, but it's hard to say what exactly was peak for guys who were so good for so long.

 

[ThunderStruck]

Fedor is right behind GSP in the goat department. A close second.

 

[ThunderStruck]

Lmao.

So an actually prime Hunt that Fedor beat was a "garbage fight", yet Stipe beating a far more older and damaged Hunt is a top win.

Hunt was way too green for Fedor. 40 years old Hunt >>>>>> The green no zero grappling Hunt who was subbed in less than 2 mins by Mousasi, a MW.

 

[MMA Maine-iac]

Still wonder why we can't just appreciate that Fedor, GSP, Anderson, Aldo and others are all great fighters? People who argue about GOAT status seem like people who would drink bath water.

 

[mjfan23]

So apparently you didn't watch their first fight if you also think Nog subbed Werdum.

Is your only defence about today’s HW division being complete shit Is that the guy made an error and said Nog subbed Werdum instead of dominated him to a decision ??

 

[Fioretti]

Is your only defence about today’s HW division being complete shit Is that the guy made an error and said Nog subbed Werdum instead of dominated him to a decision ??

I didn't give my opinion on the HW division. His reasoning didn't seem very logical, and had a glaring mistake. Do you disagree?

 

[mjfan23]

I didn't give my opinion on the HW division. His reasoning didn't seem very logical, and had a glaring mistake. Do you disagree?

Well the discussion is about the shitty state of today’s division so don’t overly focus his error

 

[Fioretti]

Well the discussion is about the shitty state of today’s division so don’t overly focus his error

There were a few errors, actually. His train of thought was that Nog subbed Werdum, Fedor beat Nog, and Werdum was champ not too long ago, so the division is shit and Fedor would be champ.

- Nog never subbed Werdum
- Werdum subbed both Nog and Fedor before becoming UFC champ
- Werdum hasn't been champ in 4(?) years
- The current champ took the belt from Werdum by knocking him out

Not a good argument in my opinion.

 

[Bjjpitbull8]

Fedor would beat every current HW fighter when he was at his peak.

He would probably make it look easy.

 

[mjfan23]

There were a few errors, actually. His train of thought was that Nog subbed Werdum, Fedor beat Nog, and Werdum was champ not too long ago, so the division is shit and Fedor would be champ.

- Nog never subbed Werdum
- Werdum subbed both Nog and Fedor before becoming UFC champ
- Werdum hasn't been champ in 4(?) years
- The current champ took the belt from Werdum by knocking him out

Not a good argument in my opinion.

The division is shit. It’s so shit the dinosaurs Like Aa, Sergei, Reem, Big Ben, Etc are all a win or two away from contending or titles. Hell if Werdum won last month he would be in title contention already too. The champ you talk about beating Werdum:
If you recall the actual fight no one said Stipe did something special everyone said Werdum was retarded in his approach and game plan. Stipe hasn’t beaten anyone young and in their prime aside from a very green and raw ford escort. He got dropped by 100 fights old Ecoreem, beaten by JDS in the first fight, beaten soundly by a young struve and a very of fat LHW recently who he is now clearly ducking and holding up the division in the process.