Still not seeing what in my post you disagreed with because I really don’t take issue with what you’re saying. The problem with pitts is a combination of breeding for specific traits, lethality, tenacity, and as you point out upbringing/environment. I think we should scrap the whole breed and start over by selecting for the desitable traits without the undesirable ones.
Your whole response has to do with man's dominion over animals and then you say man's dominion over animals isn't the issue. This is a contradiction.
Are you meaning from a biblical perspective?
Dominion over the animals if you are speaking biblically was at creation and before the fall. It's why hippos or crocodiles don't make great pets. Could they have in the garden? There was no indication of fear or risk of those in the garden context. From a Christian perspective its attributed to the effects of sin on the earth. After the fall you had to toil for food and it wasn't just given. Animals could attack and kill you. People started to die.
That would be where I disagree. For one, how the hell would you even do that? Round up every pitbull/halfbreed on Earth, and shove them in an incinerator? For two, it's completely unfair. The amount of attacks that happen are relatively miniscule when taken as a whole. Of the entire breed, what would you put the percentage at of how many have mauled people to death? It wouldn't be that high. Certainly not high enough to justify exterminating the breed.
What about not breeding and just letting them die off naturally. Would you be ok with the breed just going away? Not being combative just asking.
Not unless they were being specifically bred for dog fighting or something. That shit can go away. Just breeding them, though? Nah. Where does that end? When the pits are gone, it'll be another breed that needs to be culled because they're "dangerous". With dogs, you have to take the good with the bad and accept potential danger with certain breeds. Some people want guard dogs. They have to be raised a certain way to instill that concentrated violence into them. Like I said, though, you should be licensed to own those types of dogs with a certain amount of hours under your belt in training them, and prove that you're responsible enough to own them, and willing to take on personal legal risk with it. If they go apeshit and kill someone, you are responsible for it. Some skeezy ass drug dealer should not just be able to pick one up all willy nilly, and the same for just regular folks. You want one? Prove you want one and get your license to own one, and take on all the responsibilities of owning one.
Sure, but that’s not the central point I’ve been making, which is like all animals, our behavior is based on nature and nurture, not one or the other.
People will likely still be selling them though for a buck. Is it because you own them or specifically about just phasing out any breed of dog? I don't myself hate them but they are quirky for a breed and sometimes kill their owners which is odd (73 yr old woman in Boston in Nov). I'm open to the licensing thing if it will work but I feel peeps will still be breeding and selling.
With the licensing, it would curb demand. People can breed them and sell them for a buck all they want, but they'll have to adjust when the market inevitably shrinks, because people will look to another breed that doesn't involve jumping through hoops to own them. Not to mention signing your life away, if they happen to go crazy and hurt innocent people. I think the problem would fix itself with those kind of measures.
Why nanny state an entire breed because a small group of people aren't responsible with them?
Meh... because it's only a breed. I'm not advocating killing them all and taking pets from folks. There dogs are just wired weird on some. There was a baby with its toes chewed off by a pit pup and a 73 year old killed by her own dog. Just odd stuff. If the breed is phased out then what's the big deal if you aren't taking peeps pets and killing them.
Just try not to turn this into a deep state "zionist" conspiracy bud.... you wanted it.
Brother, I'd admire your conviction and was simply amazed at the lack of content on your behalf. I'd say you're like a game pit properly trained tbh.Just try not to turn this into a deep state "zionist" conspiracy bud.... you wanted it.
So here it goes.....
Its the same dumb bitches like AndyCrap that have ZERO idea about the the subject at hand.
Or better yet goofy scoopj memeing and hahahaha'ing at the death of a child.
Its a bit gross to be honest .
There is nothing of substance here.
Also as always still waiting for dumb asses who dont know shit about dogs to define what a "pITbuLl" is. Or show how this dog was determined to be a "pitbull."
Remember "pitbulls are dangerous because they are SPECIFIC pure bred dogs..." However, many of these dogs are mutts /mixed breed dogs. Hmmm the logic falls apart there.
A nuanced conversation can be had on all of those factual statements. But it won't due to dishonest pussies in this thread. It will devolve like always.
I can post a long list of dogs that are FAR more dangerous to children & humans than APBTs for the 1000th time. But people will just stick with the hysteria.
You can post how other "pets" & dog breeds still kill people & children & that the # will never be zero. But some bitch made hack will keep spamming "zero" to run away from the other posters who schooled him.
The data for "pitbulls" is junk science because it contains multiple different breeds & many ignorant retards (like in this thread) who misidentfy any brindled bullish looking dog as a "pIT bUlL."
Its also the easiest point of entry on every level for absolute trash bag owners.
All these facts have been gone over before.
The truth is:
-They are dangerous weapons in many instances
-The individual dog matters. Some are as safe as a Lab. Others are more capable & deadly than most pets.
-All danger & risk can be mitigated with responsible owners and appropriate tools/restrictions
- Millions of pitbulls live their entire life without attacking or killing a human
-People who want to kill someone's innocent pet are the lowest form of human beings on the planet
-People who want to tell responsible owners what they can & can't own are anti American authoritarian pieces of shit. Especially when they ignore the proof of concept mentioned above.
Anyone have the balls to stick to disputing any of the factual claims above & stay on topic????
I think I'm more unhinged and aggressive than a "Game" pit towards humans lol
You mean to tell me our ancestors were swimming in harmony with crocodiles before that bitch ate the apple?
Again I'm open to that licensing thing if it's effective. If not would you be open?
I was just making an old sherdog quip there lol. Your tenacity and unwavering beliefs should be admired, even when one may not share the same beliefs.
To what? Stop breeding them altogether? Nah. Like I said, it's not this epidemic that the headlines would have you believe. You got some incidents here and there, but to go extreme like that wouldn't accomplish much. There would just be another "dangerous" breed that needs to be exterminated after that. I'm sure the dog owners arguing for this, wouldn't like being told that their harmless Rottweiler was a danger to society and needed to be turned in and put down. You can't bubble wrap the world over a few bad incidents. Shit happens with animals. Is what it is.
