Crime 5 people break into a house not knowing guy has an AK47

[bobgeese]

Nice.

 

[Happy Man]

"Today is a good day to die."

Hoka Hey!!! Or Hokahe

 

[Anomonis]

Or how quickly it CAN change if everyone is armed to the teeth.

And I've had to deal with plenty of violence, but nobody was armed with a gun, and nobody died.

In any case it's a pointless argument now. America is a gun culture, that's just how it is. I'm assuming the majority of it's citizens want it that way, so be it. Not my country, not my business.

I'm not American, but the reason the gun culture exists in America isn't because everyone is so scared and violent. It is because of their bloody war of independence and desire for the citizenry to be able to defend itself against a tyrannical government.

...its most influential framer was James Madison. In Federalist No. 46, Madison wrote how a federal army could be kept in check by state militias, "a standing army ... would be opposed [by] a militia." He argued that state militias "would be able to repel the danger" of a federal army, "It may well be doubted, whether a militia thus circumstanced could ever be conquered by such a proportion of regular troops." He contrasted the federal government of the United States to the European kingdoms, which he described as "afraid to trust the people with arms," and assured that "the existence of subordinate governments ... forms a barrier against the enterprises of ambition".

Second Amendment - December 15, 1791
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

It may not be feasible or applicable these days, but that is the basic idea of where the gun culture originates from. In context it makes sense, considering that historically speaking, 1791 was not that long ago. And so the culture has maintained this long.

 

[Andy Capp]

Is the home owner's name Frank Castle?

Even with the advantage of an AK and surprise, taking on five armed shit-bags and walking away leaving them all on the field is fucking elite level skills

If the guy was older, I would have suspected he'd had Military, LE or Government training/service.

They probably made a lot of mistakes when confronted with (presumably) a big difference in firepower. That might have helped. Anyway, good on him.

Well I should clarify. We do have self defence, but your life has to be imminently in danger. So for example, if a Canadian homeowner is asleep in their bedroom and an intruder comes into his room brandishing a weapon then the homeowner can defend himself. But in a different scenario where the homeowner can hear an intruder somewhere in the house he can’t just go and hunt them down with a weapon. If there’s an option to escape and call the police that’s what’s expected.

Well, that's sort of the point, isn't it? If you come in one way and I have the option to go out another way, shouldn't I do that? But on the other hand, if you confront me I am within my rights to end you. Seems about right to me.

 

[Law Talkin’ Guy]

Well, that's sort of the point, isn't it? If you come in one way and I have the option to go out another way, shouldn't I do that? But on the other hand, if you confront me I am within my rights to end you. Seems about right to me.

Castle doctrine entitles people to repel invaders from their home with force. I don’t see anything wrong with that.

 

[RockstarChris]

tbh i would probably be drinking beers watching football with my neighbor while my home got invaded

 

[JDragon]

If you do a home invasion you deserve whatever you get

Like valuable goods...?

 

[JoshTehV]

Trump should bring this guy to the white house

 

[IGotAHugePeckah]

 

[Farmer Br0wn]

If I was a criminal with a gun and you were unarmed I'd just steal your stuff and let you live. If I was a criminal with a gun and I saw you had a gun I'd shoot to kill immediately upon sight. Does the gun really make you safer? Maybe I would avoid robbing your house if I knew you were armed but I think most burglars would assume homeowners probably have a gun somewhere

Yes.

The homeowner in question in this thread is objectively safer because of his gun ownership.

Combat is a fluid thing. You're trying to divide the stages of human combat into these neat little boxes. Since you're on a forum dedicated to mixed martial arts, I really shouldn't have to take that much time explaining to you how that's not true at all.

 

[SugarKrok]

It’s not a Trudeau thing. Specifically what I meant was that we don’t have Castle doctrine in Canada. You’re not allowed to harm a home invader. You’re legally obliged to flee your own home.

I wasn't aware of this. Thank you. I assume this applies to dwelling's one is renting as well.

Regarding this doctrine, it is fucking trash. What if the homeowner has no choice but to cross the invaders path to get to his family? Is he suppose to politely negotaite a truce?

Honestly, I think Americans are a bit quick to shoot and wouldn't want that in Canada. However, I do firmly believe people should have a right to stand, bang, and finish what someone else started.

 

[jericksen5]

Just Google "revolution."

Which one? Like the American revolution? Because that worked out pretty well for us yanks over here.

 

[HARRISON_3]

Going to need pics(of the women, not the beer).

I typed in "sexy Texas women" on Bing.

Yea, it's all porn.

 

[Bloody Pulp]

Yes.

The homeowner in question in this thread is objectively safer because of his gun ownership.

Combat is a fluid thing. You're trying to divide the stages of human combat into these neat little boxes. Since you're on a forum dedicated to mixed martial arts, I really shouldn't have to take that much time explaining to you how that's not true at all.

If you just let me punch you once I’d leave you alone after but if you tried to punch me back I would deflect your strike and immediately counter with a liver strike, chop kick to your knee and then rear naked choke you until dead.

So is hitting me back really a good idea after all?

 

[THEfightsAREfixed]

America is awesome except for the gun culture.

I've had plenty of opportunities to move there for business, but I'm not interested in moving to a country where you're grateful you're allowed to own a damned assault rifle to defend yourself. I've always felt safe in my country, always, and at fifty I've never known anyone who has come to a violent end. I would never feel safe in a country where so many people are armed.

I appreciate that many of you feel safer with guns, and the truth is you're probably right considering how armed you already are. I'm just happy to live somewhere different, somewhere exponentially safer.

Lived in America my whole life, lived in texas for 10+ years. Never heard a gunshot, never saw a gun in public outside of police officers, never knew someone who was involved in gun violence. And was probably regularly surrounded by people with guns, and it wasn't part of my personal experience even once. Always felt safe, and don't own a gun.

It's interesting though to see people who think there is a "gun culture" in America and especially Texas when I was born there and lived there for over a decade and haven't had one personal experience with guns outside of shooting them on a range in boy scouts, having maybe one friend who I remember purchased one, or seeing police with them.

Anecdotal, but still facts.

 

[Teh Clint]

 

[Loiosh]

Which one? Like the American revolution? Because that worked out pretty well for us yanks over here.

So you Googled "revolution" and couldn't find a single one where a heavily armed populace turned into a really bad thing?

 

[Farmer Br0wn]

If you just let me punch you once I’d leave you alone after but if you tried to punch me back I would deflect your strike and immediately counter with a liver strike, chop kick to your knee and then rear naked choke you until dead.

So is hitting me back really a good idea after all?

How BloodyPulp imagines most of his fights will go:



How BloodyPulps actual fights go:

 

[jericksen5]

So you Googled "revolution" and couldn't find a single one where a heavily armed populace turned into a really bad thing?

When did “see google” become a legitimate way to outline a point you were trying to make?

“Really bad thing” is also about as subjective as it gets. I take it you haven’t put much thought into this.

 

[Loiosh]

Lived in America my whole life, lived in texas for 10+ years. Never heard a gunshot, never saw a gun in public outside of police officers, never knew someone who was involved in gun violence. And was probably regularly surrounded by people with guns, and it wasn't part of my personal experience even once. Always felt safe, and don't own a gun.

It's interesting though to see people who think there is a "gun culture" in America and especially Texas when I was born there and lived there for over a decade and haven't had one personal experience with guns outside of shooting them on a range in boy scouts, having maybe one friend who I remember purchased one, or seeing police with them.

Anecdotal, but still facts.

Odd.

I've been in the presence of civilian guns several times, and it's been in America every single time.

I think you're the only person I've ever heard deny that America has a gun culture. One in four Americans owns a gun. That said, Americans vastly overestimate the number of gun owners.

I know I did. I've been hearing for years that there are more guns than people and failed to take into account the people who have gun collections.