Prime bs

[GOATtalks]

There’s a myth created by Pride fans that fighters are in their prime in their 20’s and they like to back it up by the age of Olympic gold medalists. A lot of Olympic sports are mostly based on athleticism and less on skill and they are mostly amateur athletes.

The closest major sports to MMA in terms of athletics and skill necessarily would be boxing, NFL, basketball, tennis and football.

The best boxers:
Fury 32
Wilder 35
AJ 31

NFL:
Tom Brady 43

Basketball:
LeBron James 36
Durant 32

Tennis:
Novak 33
Nadal 34
Federer 39

Football:
Ronaldo 36
Messi 33

UFC champs right now:
Stipe 38
Jan 37
Izzy 31
Usman 33
Khabib 32
Volkanovski 32
Yan 28
Figgy 33

Can this baseless shit argument die already?

 

[KillerIsBack V2]

Every body is different, every sport is different.
Betnard hipkins was world champion boxer at age 49, your argument is invalid.

 

[Leinster Rugby]

I've never seen anyone say most of the things you claim above

 

[Daelh]

There is a difference between having 30 mma fights and 100+ Sambo fights by the time you're 30 than starting your career in your 30s... obviously they would have different primes (DC, Fedor). Jon Jones is clearly going out of his prime based on his last 3 fights and he's like 32 but have fought since 20 years old.

 

[genecop]

The rise might be more political than actual..

 

[Gamer007]

 

[JoshTehV]

 

[GOATtalks]

Every body is different, every sport is different.
Betnard hipkins was world champion boxer at age 49, your argument is invalid.

Why is it invalid? My post clearly shows that early and mid 30’s are definitely still prime age for pro athletes

 

[GOATtalks]

There is a difference between having 30 mma fights and 100+ Sambo fights by the time you're 30 than starting your career in your 30s... obviously they would have different primes (DC, Fedor). Jon Jones is clearly going out of his prime based on his last 3 fights and he's like 32 but have fought since 20 years old.

Jon looked his best ever in his 2 prior to that ( DC 2, Gus 2). He easily outclassed Smith cruising at 30%, clearly beat Santos and only really struggled with Reyes. At that mostly could be because of Reyes size. Jon isn’t at his best fighting long fighters. Styles make fights

 

[Morris88]

UFC is dying, bro

 

[GOATtalks]

There is a difference between having 30 mma fights and 100+ Sambo fights by the time you're 30 than starting your career in your 30s... obviously they would have different primes (DC, Fedor). Jon Jones is clearly going out of his prime based on his last 3 fights and he's like 32 but have fought since 20 years old.

It’s almost like DC started to do sports in his 30’s and didn’t have and Olympic wrestling career, where he had to cut weight every time. Definitely the freshest fighter

 

[sampuncher]

People will say any old shit to defend their favourite fighters, I laugh most of it off tbh.

 

[scottjoebob]

It’s almost like DC started to do sports in his 30’s and didn’t have and Olympic wrestling career, where he had to cut weight every time. Definitely the freshest fighter

DC didnt wrestle and do MMA concurrently , as Fedor did with sambo and MMA .

 

[GOATtalks]

DC didnt wrestle and do MMA concurrently , as Fedor did with sambo and MMA .

Ahhh... yes that changes everything!

 

[Pillar of Society]

Basketball tennis and football closest to MMA?! Are you out of your mind

Wrestling, Judo Kickboxing are bazillion times closer to MMA than those you mentioned.

Lets see the age of gold medalists in 2012 Olympics - Judo - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judo_at_the_2012_Summer_Olympics

Extra-lightweight winner - 23 yrs old
Half lihhtweight - 20 yrs
Lightweight - 26 yrs
Half middleweight - 27yrs
Middleweight - 33yrs
Half heavyweight - 28 yrs
Heavyweight - 23 yrs

Edit - now lets see gold medalists in wrestling, same Olympic games - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wrestling_at_the_2012_Summer_Olympics

Freestyle:
55kg champ - 25 yrs
60kg champ - 20 yrs
66 kg champ - 26 yrs
74 kg champ - 24 yrs
84kg champ - 24 yrs
96kg champ - 26 yrs
120kg champ - 24 yrs who shared the gold with another guy who was 25 yrs old


You can end this pointless thread now.

 

[Kumason]

I always say fighting prime is often much different than physical prime. If they would likely beat the earlier version of themselves they aren't out of their fighting prime and this is often the case when...ya know, that type of mma fan brings up out of their prime. It is annoying when people bring up physical prime and typical ages of physical prime etc.

"and they like to back it up by the age of Olympic gold medalists"

I have been watching mma since Nov. 12, 1993, been on Sherdog since it started and never seen someone say this.

"A lot of Olympic sports are mostly based on athleticism and less on skill and they are mostly amateur athletes."

Some sports more than others but saying this as an overall truth is pretty stupid.

Not a fan of your threads/posts in general, I think they are passed their prime.

 

[Chael_Sonnen]

There is a difference between having 30 mma fights and 100+ Sambo fights by the time you're 30 than starting your career in your 30s... obviously they would have different primes (DC, Fedor). Jon Jones is clearly going out of his prime based on his last 3 fights and he's like 32 but have fought since 20 years old.

Izzy has 100 kickboxing fights and 20 MMA fights, and he isn't slowing down like Fedor did.

 

[GOATtalks]

I always say fighting prime is often much different than physical prime. If they would likely beat the earlier version of themselves they aren't out of their fighting prime and this is often the case when...ya know, that type of mma fan brings up out of their prime. It is annoying when people bring up physical prime and typical ages of physical prime etc.

"and they like to back it up by the age of Olympic gold medalists"

I have been watching mma since Nov. 12, 1993, been on Sherdog since it started and never seen someone say this.

"A lot of Olympic sports are mostly based on athleticism and less on skill and they are mostly amateur athletes."

Some sports more than others but saying this as an overall truth is pretty stupid.

Not a fan of your threads/posts in general, I think they are passed their prime.

Look one post above! Lol

 

[GOATtalks]

Basketball tennis and football closest to MMA?! Are you out of your mind

Wrestling, Judo Kickboxing are bazillion times closer to MMA than those you mentioned.

Lets see the age of gold medalists in 2012 Olympics - Judo - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judo_at_the_2012_Summer_Olympics

Extra-lightweight winner - 23 yrs old
Half lihhtweight - 20 yrs
Lightweight - 26 yrs
Half middleweight - 27yrs
Middleweight - 33yrs
Half heavyweight - 28 yrs
Heavyweight - 23 yrs

I said major professional sports. Judo is an amateur sport no one cares about

 

[Kumason]

Look one post above! Lol

Cause you brought up Olympic ages so now people are talking about it dummy.