Crime 4 year old boy dies of flu after anti vax mom ignores tamiflu prescription and consulted Facebook

Overpressure said:
What could go right? Parents that plan for and want their children, and since they need to qualify to be parents, the child matters far more than the fifth mistake pregnancy in an impoverished household.
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So which man do you choose to play the role of God?

Hitler would be proud
 
Billy no mates said:
That's just your body finding its balance , there's no such thing as allergys .
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THIS is what I was talking about. A place to get medical info to cure my ailments. Thank you. I was worried about not being able to breathe, but my body probably just has too much oxygen and is balancing itself out. No pharma CEO is gonna get rich by selling me their epipens filled with "medicine". Lol, nice try Merck.
 
good-faith poster said:
So which man do you choose to play the role of God?

Hitler would be proud
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Cute.

Of course what I'm talking about is something most wouldn't do voluntarily.

But the benefits would be amazing.
Start with IQ. A high enough IQ gets you an automatic birth right. Other attributes would be obvious as well, like a family history without heart disease or cancers.

The population would drop by half, and the benefits to that would be obvious.

I wouldn't mind it happening, at all. If people with a family history of cancer can't reproduce, cancer rates would be negligible in two generations.
 
Overpressure said:
What could go right? Parents that plan for and want their children, and since they need to qualify to be parents, the child matters far more than the fifth mistake pregnancy in an impoverished household.
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Do Jews qualify under your new eugenics plan?
 
Overpressure said:
Cute.

Of course what I'm talking about is something most wouldn't do voluntarily.

But the benefits would be amazing.
Start with IQ. A high enough IQ gets you an automatic birth right. Other attributes would be obvious as well, like a family history without heart disease or cancers.

The population would drop by half, and the benefits to that would be obvious.

I wouldn't mind it happening, at all. If people with a family history of cancer can't reproduce, cancer rates would be negligible in two generations.
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That is truly terrifying
 
Overpressure said:
Cute.

Of course what I'm talking about is something most wouldn't do voluntarily.

But the benefits would be amazing.
Start with IQ. A high enough IQ gets you an automatic birth right. Other attributes would be obvious as well, like a family history without heart disease or cancers.

The population would drop by half, and the benefits to that would be obvious.

I wouldn't mind it happening, at all. If people with a family history of cancer can't reproduce, cancer rates would be negligible in two generations.
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<Huh2>
 
D 1 Wrestler said:
When will these low IQ dumbasses learn? She tried a bunch of psuedo science remedies and consulted Facebook anti vax group who suggested more bullshit. She should be jailed.

Facebook groups that routinely traffic in anti-vaccination propaganda have become a resource for people seeking out a wide variety of medical information — including about the ongoing flu season.

Facebook hosts a vast network of groups that trade in false health information. On “Stop Mandatory Vaccination,” one of the largest known health misinformation groups with more than 139,000 members, people have solicited advice for how to deal with the flu. Members of the group have previously spread conspiracies that outbreaks of preventable diseases are “hoaxes” perpetrated by the government, and use the groups to mass-contact parents whose children have died and suggest without evidence that vaccines may be to blame.

One recent post came from the mother of a 4-year-old Colorado boy who died from the flu this week. In it, she consulted group members while noting that she had declined to fill a prescription written by a doctor.

The child had not been diagnosed yet, but he was running a fever and had a seizure, the mother wrote. She added that two of her four children had been diagnosed with the flu and that the doctor had prescribed the antiviral Tamiflu for everyone in the household.

“The doc prescribed tamiflu I did not pick it up,” she wrote.

Tamiflu is the most common antiviral medication prescribed to treat the flu. The drug can ease symptoms and shorten the length of illness, but concerns about side effects are common even outside anti-vaccination echo chambers. The flu has hit children particularly hard this season. Pediatric hospitalization rates are higher than normal, and 68 children have died, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

NBC News verified the posts by cross-referencing them with a fundraising page set up by the family, along with published news reports quoting the family.
The posts highlight how Facebook groups dedicated to health misinformation such as vaccinations can also be used to solicit and share potentially dangerous medical advice. A study by the American Academy of Family Physicians found that 59 percent of parents said their child had missed the flu shot at least once due to “misinformation or misunderstanding.”

None of the 45 comments on the mother’s Facebook post suggested medical attention. The child was eventually hospitalized and died four days later, according to a GoFundMe started on his behalf by his family.

The mother also wrote that the “natural cures” she was treating all four of her children with — including peppermint oil, Vitamin C and lavender — were not working and asked the group for more advice. The advice that came in the comments included breastmilk, thyme and elderberry, none of which are medically recommended treatments for the flu.

“Perfect, I’ll try that,” the mother responded.

The mother’s recent posts have now been deleted from Stop Mandatory Vaccination, but in group posts going back to 2017 she said she had not vaccinated her children from the flu.

The mother did not respond to a request for comment.

A Facebook spokesperson said in an emailed statement: “This is a tragedy and our thoughts are with his family and loved ones. We don’t want vaccine misinformation on Facebook, which is why we’re working hard to reduce it everywhere on the platform, including in private groups.”

In an emailed statement, the Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment confirmed that the preschooler had died from the flu and said it did not have records showing whether the child was vaccinated.

“While flu is circulating, it is not too late to get a flu shot, and we recommend everyone ages six months and older who has not had the yearly vaccine get it,” the department said.

Over the last year — amid nationwide concern over vaccine hesitancy and the worst measles outbreak in decades — Facebook has taken steps to limit the volume and reach of groups that spread anti-vaccine content.

Following similar decisions by Pinterest and YouTube, Facebook announced in March that it would limit the reach of anti-vaccination content, no longer serve up anti-vaccination groups and pages in search results and the recommendations bar, and no longer allow users and groups that spread vaccine misinformation to place ads or run fundraisers. In September, Facebook rolled out pop-up warnings for users searching for vaccine-related content.

But Facebook has stopped short of banning the anti-vaccine groups themselves, citing an unease with being the arbiter of truth.

Facebook groups are a hotbed of vaccine misinformation and content, said Kolina Koltai, a researcher at the University of Texas at Austin, who has studied the social media behavior of the anti-vaccination movement since 2015. Koltai said she’s seen similar posts in which women have reported that their children were sick with measles or cancer and received medically questionable advice.

“These communities have become a haven or resource for parents and for women to connect with others and ask for help,” Koltai said.

One of the biggest purposes of these groups is as a main information exchange hub. And when these groups are recommending potentially medically unsound advice, it can have a severely negative consequence.

“This is what we warn about,” Koltai said.

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social...-pushed-mom-not-give-her-son-tamiflu-n1131936
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imagine if it turns out that the side of this argument that youre so firmly entrenched on ((calling the otherside dumbasses etc and are obviously motivated by some kind of personal feeling that youre making this thread)) imagine if that side ends up being wrong.....will you feel silly for calling everyone on the other side a dumbass then??

lets imagine for a moment that these stories are all spun "because so n so didnt buy the antiviral!!!" imagine if there was a bunch of these stories from the ((affiliated)) news agencies around the world...the BBC newsweek CBS etc....and not one of them added this little excerpt from the BMJ

"The Food and Drug Administration told The BMJ that data submitted to it for review do not support the claim that the neuraminidase inhibitor oseltamivir (marketed by Genentech and Roche as Tamiflu) ‘saves lives.’ The FDA said that oseltamivir ‘has not been proven to have a positive impact on the potential consequences (such as hospitalizations, mortality, or economic impact) of seasonal, avian, or pandemic influenza.’"

imagine that!!

now try to find a story of someone that has gotten the flu shot and has subsequently died from the flu thereafter, do you think thats never happened? do you think that the flu shot is so powerful good and proper that everyone that gets one is magically protected from the flu? there are so many stories ((mostly coming out of the CDC)) that report how someone didnt get the shot and died .... but next to none about someone that did get the shot and still died....why is that? its because youre being sold a lie, the data is fudged, the stats are misrepresented or in somecases entirely made up but added to the sales pitch anyway

the way its spun its nearly impossible to distinguish whats real and whats part of a sale pitch by people that dont have you and your family's best interests at heart....so then the only ideal which we for sure know is true is.....unless you have an ongoing medical issue that needs the assistance of these types of medications....you shouldnt be putting anything into your body that you dont know what it is.....that is to say......if good health is your goal
 
It may or may not have mattered if the mother filled the prescription. The best treatment would have been prevention, and the single best way to prevent flu is to get vaccinated each year.
 
Overpressure said:
Cute.

Of course what I'm talking about is something most wouldn't do voluntarily.

But the benefits would be amazing.
Start with IQ. A high enough IQ gets you an automatic birth right. Other attributes would be obvious as well, like a family history without heart disease or cancers.

The population would drop by half, and the benefits to that would be obvious.

I wouldn't mind it happening, at all. If people with a family history of cancer can't reproduce, cancer rates would be negligible in two generations.
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lol... Would the IQ test be adjusted by "Adversity Scores" for different races, like College entrance requirements seem to be using?
 
Scerpi said:
lol... Would the IQ test be adjusted by "Adversity Scores" for different races, like College entrance requirements seem to be using?
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I dunno. Probably not, in this hypothetical. Not knowledge tests as much as pure intellectual ability. It would cut the number of potential parents by half, I would guess.
 
Influenza can be no joke. People think vomiting fever dehydration or whatever, but some of the other complications that can arise are down right horrifying. Things like severe secondary infections, bilateral pneumonia, septic shock, grafts, amputations, transplants, coma, brain damage, death... Yeah no thanks gonna reduce the risk of that happening to my kids if I can.
 
Overpressure said:
Cute.

Of course what I'm talking about is something most wouldn't do voluntarily.

But the benefits would be amazing.
Start with IQ. A high enough IQ gets you an automatic birth right. Other attributes would be obvious as well, like a family history without heart disease or cancers.

The population would drop by half, and the benefits to that would be obvious.

I wouldn't mind it happening, at all. If people with a family history of cancer can't reproduce, cancer rates would be negligible in two generations.
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<Prem973>
 
wild that you there's a test/standard for buying a gun, or driving a car

but having a kid?

literally the most worthless person on earth can have multiple, zero questions asked

that's a problem
 
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