290 to 260

[Sarumyan]

Fuck.

Ate too much peanut butter (20 grams of carbs) and too much coffee with cream and sugar (40 grams). I was in Ketosis before the coffee, but now I think I am back to carb-burning.

Peanut butter - around 100 grams eaten - 1000 calories.
Finished pork - around 500 calories.
Double-Double Coffee - 240+140=380.

All in all, extra 1900 calories which makes it 5750 calories for the day before exam.



Which means I need to compensate for this today ( just finished exam , may I say, all nighter saved my ass, should be 70+%).

Sorry boys, sometimes a man gotta do what a man gotta do.

Update: I got food poisining! Fuck!! 2 days without any sleep, 200 pages to memorize, now fcking peanut butter poisoning, and I can't even throw up! Raaaawwww

Somebody give me a fucking medal.

 

[Possum Jenkins]

If you're still doing IF, you should try to do cardio or HIIT while fasted.

You should burn fat like crazy and since you say you don't care too much about losing a little muscle as well, it should really work for you.

 

[Seriously-Dead]

Dear god this is like watching a train wreck play out in slow motion.

 

[Sarumyan]

Dear god this is like watching a train wreck play out in slow motion.

 

[immovablestone]

Not a great perspective to have regarding one of the most knowledgeable guys to ever grace this forum...

 

[Sarumyan]

Not a great perspective to have regarding one of the most knowledgeable guys to ever grace this forum...

Pretty sure he won't contribute to this thread. Let's just leave it there.

Day 34-35: Taking a break from Keto (peanut butter really threw me off lol) and Training. Hardest exam is coming up.
Left window open at night - woke up with Toronto covered in snow, and my apt. freezing cold. Having headache.

Yesterday - 2834 calories, slept 13 hours total, no training.

 

[Seriously-Dead]

Pretty sure he won't contribute to this thread. Let's just leave it there.

I would be happy to contribute to this thread, but I have a feeling you would not be that interested in what I have to say.

 

[Sarumyan]

To be honest - no. I think I was very rude couple a year ago about the milk thread and so on, sorry about that.

Diet-wise, you are going to say "caloric deficit of 500 and ketogenic diet damages metabolism or thyroid levels" right? And that I am going too low with calories.

My problem is that I tend to binge and lack discipline/will to fight hunger/stress. I think that while I feel good and have the motivation I am better off sustaining huge caloric deficit to lose weight quickly, and when stress (like exams) hits, I can maintain reasonable amount of calories (3000-4000) without gaining much.

Going steady at 3300 calories is just more challenging for me, because I know that I can lose all 2 weeks of work in one dinner.

 

[Seriously-Dead]

Diet-wise, you are going to say "caloric deficit of 500 and ketogenic diet damages metabolism or thyroid levels" right? And that I am going too low with calories.

Hell no, that's not what I'm going to say. The -500/day rule is just a shitty rule of thumb. I've never used it and I wouldn't expect other people to. For a guy your size it's a tiny deficit with too much room for error.

I just think what you're doing right now is a haphazard, bumbling attempt at a weight loss plan. You are all over the place. If you have a problem with binging, then keto probably isn't for you because one binge will suck you right out of ketosis and then you're just stuck with a shitty metabolism, no weight loss, and no benefit. There's a way to do keto, but it requires more discipline, intelligently planned refeeds, and well tuned management - and this ain't it.

To me, it sounds like you would be better off with a plan that has large undulations in caloric intake (such as, 600-1000kcal PSMF days, followed by 3000-4000kcal days with ample carbohydrates). It doesn't require a fine touch to get it right, it lets you have large caloric deficits, there's no risk of metabolic down-regulation, and you can intertwine it into an unpredictable and stressful life. Combine this with the hallmarks of all successful diets (allow for sporadic cheat foods, large and regular loads of satiating veggies and protein, high micronutrient intake, and regular physical activity), and I think you'd be golden.

Just my two cents. I'll bow out for now.

 

[August West]

If you have a problem with binging, then keto probably isn't for you because one binge will suck you right out of ketosis and then you're just stuck with a shitty metabolism, no weight loss, and no benefit.

I can certainly attest to this point. I could never stick to a keto diet for more than 2 weeks, one screwup and ketosis goes out the window.

I find it much easier to simply keep my carbs low and my calories reasonable.

 

[Sarumyan]

Kind of confirms my previous exp. with weight loss. This time I just wanted to do it "the right way", stick to the plan, don't starve and so on. Thank you for letting me know it is ok to go very low with calories for reasonable amount of time. I found this strategy most helpful.

Generally, I want low-carb as a long-term solution to binging.

Thanks for the tips fellas.

 

[immovablestone]

I can certainly attest to this point. I could never stick to a keto diet for more than 2 weeks, one screwup and ketosis goes out the window.

I find it much easier to simply keep my carbs low and my calories reasonable.

You can fix it if you re-adapt, it just sucks to have to go through that phase over again.

I am in full time nutritional ketosis, I find the diet pretty easy, but I cheated egregiously once after adapting fully and it sucked so bad its never happening again until my goals are met, however many months it takes, and even then I'll likely start with infrequent carb loads and work back up from there.

 

[Sarumyan]

Day 33-37: Took a break. Minimal training, maximum study. Calories 3500-4800 range.
I gained some weight, however, looks like a bulked up. Veins and ribs look the same, so I doubt I gained much fat-weight.
Nailed the exams, but... at what cost!? lol

Also .... battled with some anxiety. I always thought of my self as stoic and calm-collected as #%#... but I think stress got to me a little bit: exams, jobs, friends possibly affected by Ukraine crisis and Korean boat sinking. Damn, happens I suppose. Had a little weep, and now feel much better .

Had some reflection on my diet: My previous exp. agrees with Srlrsy-dead, Alternating several days of 100% "all-in" ( I plan on 5 per week) and moderate cheat-days (2 per week) would suit me best.
Also - time to ditch driving around and walk more listening to audibooks.

 

[Sarumyan]

Day 38: Low calories:
Korean food - ~1000 , cup of ice cream, lots of tea.
Jogging 30 minutes/Walking 2.5 hours (!) to University. Walked a LOT. Also my knee got sensitive from running.
Productive day - lots of study.

 

[Sarumyan]

day 39: Fucked up with my finances... big time. Going to settle in a roommate for summer to compensate. My parents are relatively wealthy, so I would spend 50-70 dollars per day, but it will have to change now, because I am tired for asking money and too old for that now.

Day was good - Jogging/walking 1 hour, 4.5 miles, Around 750 calories.

 

[selfcritical]

Day 33: 284.1 lbs

Welcome to Keto land!

Feels like I am in Keto, brain feels foggy, but generally I am ok.

Tried eatinf butter/coconut oil and fish oil at lunch with lots of tea.. Something didn't work, when I ate the lean pork, the buttery taste came up through my throat, so I think It was still digesting all that fat (around 3 hours - weird ). Exercise felt ok : feels like , hmm where this weird power comes from to push the bar, and then ... BAM - it's gone, and you can barely get 220 bench off your chest).. Training with no carbs is tricky.

Training: Heavy weights, Push/pull no rest combo , total body. - Around 500 calories.

Diet:

Supplement potassium zinc and magnesium. Sodium is good too but obviously interferes with losing water weight if you're closer. This made keto pretty painless on my tiny person weight cut. I also probably depleted glycogen faster than you because my muscle mass is so much smaller.

 

[Sarumyan]

Supplement potassium zinc and magnesium. Sodium is good too but obviously interferes with losing water weight if you're closer. This made keto pretty painless on my tiny person weight cut. I also probably depleted glycogen faster than you because my muscle mass is so much smaller.

Hey, I will try proper Keto again, once my schedule clears up. Right now.. I am having too many things to solve.

 

[Sarumyan]

Rest/Study day.
Day 40: Interestingly I have noticed some improvements to my body. I think jogging really compensates for lack of structural diet at the moment.

Note: My legs are getting freaking huge. Calves have increased in size from my "on-toes" jogging method. Thigh feels like it is made of iron when I touch it. Its not just squats that make legs, brothers.

Feel a bit better today. I think overall stress has gotten to me a bit, but on the plus side, I haven't had hard time for the last year. Generally back on track.

No training today, lots of study and some walking.

I stopped thinking too much about diet and just doing it now. Before I was checking my log like 24/7.

 

[Sarumyan]

JUST GRADUATED, NO MORE EXAMS, NOW FOR REAL.

Diet for the last 7 days been pretty bad. On the plus side solved some financial issues, better now.

Exams just broke me to be honest especially d-level economics.

Taking day off today, back to diet tomorrow.

 

[Sarumyan]

day 44: Korean food - 1500 calories.
Mango slices - 300 grams - 170 calories.
Sugar ( I like my sugar in tea ) -
Misc - 500 caloiries.

Note: Amazing thing happened. After jogging for 35 minutes, I came down to throw ball alone. Some guys invited me to play, and I just couldn't resist. Basketball is my first love, when I retired from Judo at 13, I played basketball, 4-5 times per week including for clubs, for my school and outside. I was obsessed with it.

Last time I dunked I was 272ish. That was 3.5 years ago, ever since I just got too big to heavy to play, and to risky to twist my leg. Just switched to mma.

Right now I am 285, and ... damn, those squats must have been magic pill or something. I feel my jump has increased like a lot. I can jump all the way to the rim easily - I feel I can dunk again. Once I get down to 270 I think I will start playing again. Man, I missed the game. Felt kinda happy playing it tonight.