Elections 26 FBI Informants Present on Jan 6

You lefties are the most hypocritical bunch. Even when something reeks (Hunter's laptop, Bidens daughters diary, millions coming in to the family) you ignore it and act like it is no big deal. But if Trump sneezes you jump all over it.

This stinks and you all know it. Do I think the riots would have happened if these informants who worked for the feds weren't there? Yes, I do. But do I think they influenced and agitated people like the professionals did during BLM riots? Sure do. There is video that never made sense. How easy they got into the building. How some cops just opened the doors. How the rioters knew where they were going. Everyone just thinks the FBI and local police were that incompetent? There is video now of people walking calmly through the halls with flags, WITH COPS. Why are the cops not arresting them? Why is there videos of cops talking and laughing with "rioters"? Another video shows a cop uncuffing someone and giving them a fist bump. If this was some great planned insurrection, where were the guns? Something stinks about this whole thing. The people that caused violence and destruction were arrested and charged and I'm all for that. But this situation definitely was manipulated by other forces, and all this is, is the left trying to get out in front of this. The more footage released, the weirder it gets. These people were practically let right in, and were led to specific areas.
 
Strychnine said:
So...

You've still got nothing but knee-jerk reaction of "ThEyreEE nAWWTTT MAAAAAGGAA, So THEryr'eeeee EBILLLLL!!!!!!"


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I cannot stress enough that your second hand grifting doesn’t work. Nobody wants to see whatever southern leftist you think will work as propaganda for the 1000th time. Make your point or don’t. If you aren’t getting paid to shill these people, it’s even more embarrassing for you.
 
Cajun said:
Illegal actions taking and get backing from congress? No dude... this was a relatively few idiots that decided to do a stupid thing. I don't buy into the fbi conspiracy at present and don't buy into this one.
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He thinks it was 9/11 times five. He’s msnbc, only on repeat. He’s nothing.
 
Source said:
What did Trump mean by “And we fight. We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore.”? He said this near the end of his speech right before the march began. Trump did not directly tell them to go into the capital. After whipping the crowd into a frenzy with multiple lie I do believe he had a good idea they would.
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Especially with PBs and OKs there pushing down the barriers and assaulting the police. There is such a thing as mob mentality and even if they all didn't go along with the breach the amount of people there made getting the mob under control more difficult.
 
Source said:
What did Trump mean by “And we fight. We fight like hell. And if you don't fight like hell, you're not going to have a country anymore.”? He said this near the end of his speech right before the march began. Trump did not directly tell them to go into the capital. After whipping the crowd into a frenzy with multiple lie I do believe he had a good idea they would.
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Yes, and so there is no need for @Islam Imamate to embellish and falsely assert that Trump actually told people to enter the capitol. Like what’s the point of making a verifiably false claim?
 
PhitePhan said:
Yes, and so there is no need for @Islam Imamate to embellish and falsely assert that Trump actually told people to enter the capitol.
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You're going to hang your hat on that technicality? Why were they there in the first place? Who told them to march to the Capitol? Who tried to exploit the chaos they caused once there?

Donald Trump, that's who. So yes he never said "I want you to break into the Capitol" but he created the conditions for the riot to happen and happily tried to exploit it towards the end of preventing the peaceful transfer of power.
 
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Cajun said:
So you believe all of this but not that the FBI could have been there encouraging this to happen (not a conspiracy i subscribe to at present)? I'm not doing anything but trying to finish off our discussion. This topic has been beaten to death in here.
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The report stated there were 3 CI's directed there. Doesn't seem like much of a CT. And if the FBI is corrupt and needs to be gutted why would they further a plan to keep Trump in office after he already lost the election. They didn't back his claims of election fraud but for some reason they wanted to help keep him in power?
 
LangfordBarrow said:
Especially with PBs and OKs there pushing down the barriers and assaulting the police. There is such a thing as mob mentality and even if they all didn't go along with the breach the amount of people there made getting the mob under control more difficult.
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These people say Kamala supported BLM riots because she tweeted in support of a bail fund once but Trump organizing the protest, directing them to the Capitol, standing by for three hours while they rampaged and promising to pardon them is not culpable.

The massive double standard in regards to what evidence they'll accept is transparently insane. We have goofs ITT musing about the FBI possibly inciting the riot, completely ignoring Trump's preceding speech and acting like there's no possible way that it could've incited the ensuing riot. No, its must be non-existent federal agents who are culpable.
LangfordBarrow said:
The report stated there were 3 CI's directed there. Doesn't seem like much of a CT. And if the FBI is corrupt and needs to be gutted why would they further a plan to keep Trump in office after he already lost the election. They didn't back his claims of election fraud but for some reason they wanted to help keep him in power?
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Yeah exactly, the alternative fedsurrection theory doesn't even make any sense and I doubt any of them can come up with a coherent explanation of it that lines up at all with the relevant facts.
 
PhitePhan said:
Yes, and so there is no need for @Islam Imamate to embellish and falsely assert that Trump actually told people to enter the capitol. Like what’s the point of making a verifiably false claim?
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When you invite someone home for a cup of coffee after a date you aren't telling them to come up to get fucked but you're still laying the groundwork to get what you're after. Notice how the PBs had their bullhorns ready to direct traffic to the Capitol and took the initiative to tear down the barricades and assault the police holding the perimeter.
 
Islam Imamate said:
You're going to hang your hat on that technicality? Why were they there in the first place? Who told them to march through the Capitol? Who tried to exploit the chaos they caused once there?

Donald Trump, that's who. So yes he never said "I want you to break into the Capitol" but he created the conditions for the riot to happen and happily tried to exploit it towards the end of preventing the peaceful transfer of power.
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Don't waste your breath. These people are going to make excuses and defend Trump to the end.
 
LangfordBarrow said:
The report stated there were 3 CI's directed there. Doesn't seem like much of a CT. And if the FBI is corrupt and needs to be gutted why would they further a plan to keep Trump in office after he already lost the election. They didn't back his claims of election fraud but for some reason they wanted to help keep him in power?
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Woah haha. This is a lot of replies to me from all over. Most I've had in a while. Let me pick up my boys then I will start going through them all.
 
I still remember when MAGA and Republicans were insisting it was BLM and Antifa behind January 6th.

Now the ‘FBI made us do it’ seems to be their Hail Mary attempt to avoid that ‘personal responsibility’ they love lecturing everyone else about.
 
Btw funny when a lib says MAGA voters are just following a narrative.

 
Xanzito said:
It's like the libs saying everything they don't like is a CT... until it isn't.
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It's not libs that came up with the schemes to stay in power. It was Eastman, Clark, and the others who were indicted that planned it all. Yet we're somehow to believe it was the FBI that orchestrated the attack on the Capitol and not the people that would benefit from it, planned it, and sent their militant surrogates in to initiate it.
 
Xanzito said:
Btw funny when a lib says MAGA voters are just following a narrative.

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Someone taking responsibility for an aspect of the event. You try to scapegoat them instead of demanding the same type of accountability for the people that actually schemed to overturn the election and were responsible for all those people being there exactly at that place and time.
 
Islam Imamate said:
IIRC it was to the House delegation which is a set of Congressional representatives, one from each state, who are to vote on the next president should there be dispute about the legitimacy of the state electors. At the time the Dems had a majority of the House but not a majority of the House delegation and so the hope was that kicking it to the House delegation could result in a Trump win.

Why would Trump kill the people who helped him stay in power? He ran on pardoning these traitors and won.

I don't think you're following here. The plan wasn't to take Congress hostage, it was to get Congress to overturn the results of the election and specifically to have Pence throw out legitimate Biden electors in favor of his fake ones or to have Pence use the chaos as a pretense to send the matter to the House Delegation which was made up of one rep from each state and thus a slight GOP majority at the time.

I don't think it was state legislatures but rather the House delegation which is made up of one Congressional rep from each state. Honestly I could be getting it wrong because we're getting into very nitty gritty constitutional procedure here. Its precisely this esoteric nature of the plot that allows Trumpers to either play ignorant about it or, in the case of the vast majority, legitimately be ignorant about it. I didn't know about most of this stuff until the wake of Jan 6th and even then only relatively recently.
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What's annoying too is that it's been years of Trumpers saying some variation of "durr, did people expect the shaman to declare himself president," having the whole scheme explained, and then going back to playing dumb. It's just like the Russian hacking. "What did Russia do? Just bought some ads on FB?" "No, they hacked private emails and disseminated them in a way designed to help Trump." "OK so just a few FB ads?" Just tiring game dealing with brick-headed hacks.
 
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LangfordBarrow said:
It's not libs that came up with the schemes to stay in power. It was Eastman, Clark, and the others who were indicted that planned it all. Yet we're somehow to believe it was the FBI that orchestrated the attack on the Capitol and not the people that would benefit from it, planned it, and sent their militant surrogates in to initiate it.
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Do you have any evidence Trump did any of that?
Cause, y'know, the DOJ was already weaponized against him for way less.
 
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