International 248 people, 66 children Palestinian dead after "Apartheid state" Israel launches airstrikes in Gaza

[Halifax]

I said BEFORE the holocaust, the Zionist movement predates both world wars, and many Jewish fundamentalists started moving their illegally before either of them.

They didn't immigrate back anywhere, they were Europeans born in Europe.

It's not moving there illegally Einstein. It's THEIR religious birthplace and country of origin and they were driven out and murdered. Repeatedly. The Muslims were the conquering invaders on a war of expansion.

You are simply willing to say "but that happened waaaaay before so it doesn't count anymore"

 

[Halifax]

All of Gaza is heavily populated you ignorant buffoon. It's one of the most densely populated regions on Earth and no one is allowed in or out as they've been under blockade/siege for almost 15 years.

I see you have no response to the IDF using human shields you hypocrite mutt......................

Yes, so they should not be stockpiling illegal explosive war ammunition used for terrorism and murder. The israelis can't just say "we can't blow up those deadly weapons they are stockpiling. Too many of the terrorists families live there! Let them shoot and kill isrealis"

 

[Misanthropist]

The lynching mobs strikes again.

 

[Kaiowas]

Yes, so they should not be stockpiling illegal explosive war ammunition used for terrorism and murder. The israelis can't just say "we can't blow up those deadly weapons they are stockpiling. Too many of the terrorists families live there! Let them shoot and kill isrealis"

So it's ok for Israel, who's attacked all of its neighbors, to have nuclear bombs but not for hamas to have bottle rockets to defend themselves against their occupiers. Gotcha.

 

[ocfightfan]

mike drop answer

Why yes I do Muhammad el-KURD.

His last name indicates that his family is originally from Kurdistan. And in fact a large percentage of Paleo names indicate foreign origins.

 

[Rational Poster]

It's not moving there illegally Einstein. It's THEIR religious birthplace and country of origin and they were driven out and murdered. Repeatedly. The Muslims were the conquering invaders on a war of expansion.

You are simply willing to say "but that happened waaaaay before so it doesn't count anymore"

Religious birthplace is not your legal birthplace, it's just were the religion was founded.

They were literally thousands of years removed from a time when it was actually their land.

 

[MicroBrew]

If you really want to go back in time, you’ll see that Jews were kicked out of their indigenous land over two thousand years ago and the Romans in an attempt to commit cultural genocide, renamed the Jewish kingdom, “Palestine.”

The people we call Palestinians are Semitic speaking Levantines, mostly descended from Jews and others Levantine peoples who converted to Christianity and Islam. Palestinians are not Romans. Palestinians are indegenous to the land we call Israel/Palestine. Palestinian genes didn't change when they changed their religion, although obviously they do have some admixture from the Gulf.

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From the Times of Israel

Most Palestinians Are Descendants Of Jews

In 1956 the PM David Ben-Gurion sent Moshe Dayan with a rabbi to start giving lessons in Judaism to Bedouin in the Negev.

Was Ben-Gurion suddenly struck with missionary zeal?

He was just acting on knowledge that he and Yitzhak Ben-Tzvi, the president, has talked about for years. Most of what we now call “Palestinian Arabs” are descendants of Jews. Among the Bedouin that could reach 100 per cent.

Ben-Gurion’s efforts didn’t go anywhere but give him credit for the thought.

Tzvi Misinai, a software pioneer, who has devoted his life to assembling the facts on this issue, says that 90 per cent of Palestinian Arabs are descendants of Jews and 50 per cent know it.

https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/most-palestinians-are-descendants-of-jews/

 

[Craisier]

This is not something that I have a great link for off the top of my head since its an issue I've mostly read about in books off the internet. Here's an excerpt from wiki

These immigrant Jews weren't living side by side with Arabs, they were buying their land and evicting them.

Lol, no serious person dates the beginning of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict back to the Roman expulsion.

I'm surprised by this information. I originally thought Isreal was more sympathetic at the start of this whole ordeal in 1947, then they became progressively more militant and increasingly less sympathetic.

Zionism seems like an even more deep rooted issue than I had previously thought.

 

[FIghtxIQ]

israel continuously bombards gaza. but yeah the gazaoui are "first". support the oppressor not the oppressed that's a good trait of character

They are targeting Hamas firing sites and weapons factories. They are after Hamas not just randoms. That's why a lot of Hamas leadership has already been killed in the attacks. Hamas is just firing at both arabs and jews.

Hamas likes to use people as shields so blame Hamas for their tactics. If you want to support people firing rockets/missiles at EVERYONE and using innocent people as shields, that's on you. I just see it for what it is and people are trying to blame only one side when it's obvious that's not the real narrative.

 

[gluehuffer1776]

They are targeting Hamas firing sites and weapons factories. They are after Hamas not just randoms. That's why a lot of Hamas leadership has already been killed in the attacks. Hamas is just firing at both arabs and jews.

Hamas likes to use people as shields so blame Hamas for their tactics. If you want to support people firing rockets/missiles at EVERYONE and using innocent people as shields, that's on you. I just see it for what it is and people are trying to blame only one side when it's obvious that's not the real narrative.

jidf detected

 

[original doom]

Only the Mizrahi and the Samaritans lived in Israel/Palestine. Most Israelis lived elsewhere.

So according to you, the best course of action is ethnic cleansing and engaging in war crimes , to ensure Jewish supremacy.

yes and that "elsewhere" was within MENA. they were booted from their former countries and fled to israel.

i dont support jewish supremacy but as far israel is concerned pushing the inhabitants of the west bank and the gaza strip into the neighbouring countries is the most peaceful solution.

have you seen the ethnic clashes taking place, this is not healthy.

 

[FIghtxIQ]

jidf detected

Don't know what that is and had to google it. I just see the problem for what it is and it was escalated by Hamas. Why can't you see Hamas doesn't represent the Palestinian people like you guys make them out to be. They are attacking both sides and killing both. Using the people that support them as human shields to die instead of them. This is going to escalate even more since there is no response from USA and they are focusing on other stuff so this will continue to escalate. Iran funds Hamas so this will eventually get way bigger than what it is currently. This will be a very big conflict. War is coming, the civil war already started.

 

[Samjj]

This is not something that I have a great link for off the top of my head since its an issue I've mostly read about in books off the internet. Here's an excerpt from wiki

These immigrant Jews weren't living side by side with Arabs, they were buying their land and evicting them.

Lol, no serious person dates the beginning of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict back to the Roman expulsion.

You’re right, Palestinians are a modern creation and Jewish history in the region precedes their existence more than 2500 years or so. So historical context of a modern conflict is in your eyes... “irrelevant” because you’re such a “serious person.” Gtfo

 

[Halifax]

Religious birthplace is not your legal birthplace, it's just were the religion was founded.

They were literally thousands of years removed from a time when it was actually their land.

Noooo they had been living there and getting kicked out and killed off and on for thousands of years. Constantly.
you make it sound like they should have just taken their annihilation and disappeared.

So it's ok for Israel, who's attacked all of its neighbors, to have nuclear bombs but not for hamas to have bottle rockets to defend themselves against their occupiers. Gotcha.

I love how you move goal posts. Attacked by its neighbors first you mean.

"oh the Israeli's have nukes and defended themselves against attacks. Why can't the Terrorists fire rockets at them without fear of them striking with superior armaments"
Those terrorists are why such a strict iron fisted government and military exists.

 

[original doom]

I’m not a fan of Israel or Israeli influence of America at all, but man, listen to this dude. This is a Sherdog poster lol

chud ?

 

[original doom]

There is the concept of dispropotionate response. And the rockets are retaliation for recent belligerent Israeli action.

American media and the rightwing is very selective in reporting the Israel-Palestinine conflict, deliberately ignoring the provocations from Israel that resulted in a Palestinian response.

those rockets have been in place just waiting for ANY kind of provocation. thats right unguided rockets have been setup to fire indiscrimately into israel at the drop of hat.

 

[mantis_fist]

From being opressed to the oppressors. Israel learned a thing...or two from the Nazis.
I think what Hamas did was not in the best interest of its people. And of course Israel responded by completely leveling buildings. This was not strategic bombing, but pure destruction.

 

[Proud American]

chud ?

Actually a fun movie.

but Sherdog people use the term. Same with Reddit/4chan

right wingers have had a lot of fun with it

Spoiler

 

[original doom]

Actually a fun movie.

but Sherdog people use the term. Same with Reddit/4chan

right winger have had a lot of fun with it

Spoiler

ahh i see lol.

 

[Rational Poster]

Noooo they had been living there and getting kicked out and killed off and on for thousands of years. Constantly.
you make it sound like they should have just taken their annihilation and disappeared.



I love how you move goal posts. Attacked by its neighbors first you mean.

"oh the Israeli's have nukes and defended themselves against attacks. Why can't the Terrorists fire rockets at them without fear of them striking with superior armaments"
Those terrorists are why such a strict iron fisted government and military exists.

So do you think America should give back the country to the natives then? It's their religious homeland, they were killed and kicked off it for centuries, repeatedly lied to and abused the entire time.