2024 Olympic boxing thread

[Ballsaque]

Hello guys,

So, I am looking for some opinions about Olympic boxing 2024 in Paris, start on 26 of July. Historically many great professionals has had their start in the Olympics, so i like to keep up with it.

I have seen very little analysis around.


These are the US boxers competing in the tournament. I have seen a bit Joshua Edwards, who seems to be a good candidate for the SW division. Very quick for his size. Though i am not sure how well his hands low style would translate to the professional circuit, but he has the athletic gifts for sure.


Im not sure if any of these candidates are looking to go pro after, but Edwards could definietly make waves in the current HW division if he cut down.

 

[Old Cat]

Two 29 year olds?

 

[borntoloseNOT]

The United States are great, I happen to be from there, but there are more countries in the world than just us. Who else is boxing in the Olympics to look out for this year? Any future Lomas or Usyks entering the fray?

 

[StopDucking]

Two 29 year olds?

This is why winning multiples golds isn’t valued much higher than winning just one.

First gold is a great accomplishment.

Second gold, you’re a grown man fighting children.

Third gold, you’re a grown man in your prime fighting children. It’s as if Tank davis fought and beat Curmel Moton.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

I'll be watching it. Josh Edwards has talent but there's really no telling how he'd do as a pro without actually seeing him compete professionally. There's no need for him to cut down. Josh is a super heavyweight in the ams which is heavyweight in the pros. He's the same size as Usyk, 6'3 220 lbs.

 

[Lucas Coradini]

I feel like my country, Brasil, is coming in hot for these Olympic Games. It was the country with most medals (and golds) at the Santiago Panamerican Games and only one of the 13 athletes didn't medal




The whole team is solid, but I think Luiz Oliveira 57kg, Jucielen Romeu 57kg, Bia Ferreira 60kg and Keno Machado 92kg all have great chances at snatching a gold one

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

I feel like my country, Brasil, is coming in hot for these Olympic Games. It was the country with most medals (and golds) at the Santiago Panamerican Games and only one of the 13 athletes didn't medal

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The whole team is solid, but I think Luiz Oliveira 57kg, Jucielen Romeu 57kg, Bia Ferreira 60kg and Keno Machado 92kg all have great chances at snatching a gold one

Right, but literally all of your gold medalists at the last Pan Am Games were chicks. Now if you look at the last Worlds, which took place only 4 months prior to the Pan Ams, Brazil didn't win a single gold medal in men's boxing. Your nation's overall medal count there was 2. Wanderley Pereira & Wanderson de Oliveira were the only guys to medal. On the other hand at the women's Worlds you did win a single gold medal (Beatriz Ferreira) along with a bronze (Barbara Santos).

 

[Ballsaque]

Right, but literally all of your gold medalists at the last Pan Am Games were chicks. Now if you look at the last Worlds, which took place only 4 months prior to the Pan Ams, Brazil didn't win a single gold medal in men's boxing. Your nation's overall medal count there was 2. Wanderley Pereira & Wanderson de Oliveira were the only guys to medal. On the other hand at the women's Worlds you did win a single gold medal (Beatriz Ferreira) along with a bronze (Barbara Santos).

Good poiints, any other standouts you know about? is the Eastern blocc putting any decent talent to the olympics this year?

 

[StopDucking]

I feel like my country, Brasil, is coming in hot for these Olympic Games. It was the country with most medals (and golds) at the Santiago Panamerican Games and only one of the 13 athletes didn't medal

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The whole team is solid, but I think Luiz Oliveira 57kg, Jucielen Romeu 57kg, Bia Ferreira 60kg and Keno Machado 92kg all have great chances at snatching a gold one

This is Brazil? These motherfuckers look like Cubans. They look GOOD!

@Sinister You gotta see this.

 

[Lucas Coradini]

Right, but literally all of your gold medalists at the last Pan Am Games were chicks.

I'm well aware about that. Why "but" tho? Anyway...

This is Brazil? These motherfuckers look like Cubans. They look GOOD!

@Sinister You gotta see this.

I actually hired @Sinister to help me plan for a fight these days and guess what he had to say about the opponent of my student? "She looks Cuban trained" lmao

Cuban trainers been present in the Brazilian national team for a couple years now, probably decades. They definitely have played a major role in the development of the team and what is now starting to develop as a new Brazilian style of boxing.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

I'm well aware about that. Why "but" tho? Anyway...

Women's boxing is obviously many levels below men's in both skill & pay. They're not comparable at all. The talent pool is extremely shallow and so are their overall numbers in the amateurs & pros. Anyway, we'll see how Team Brazil does at the upcoming Paris Olympics. My guess is that the Top 5 nations will look very similar to what we saw at the last men's Worlds (boycott aside) with the Eastern Bloc dominating.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

Good poiints, any other standouts you know about? is the Eastern blocc putting any decent talent to the olympics this year?

Yeah. Are you familiar with Bakhodir Jalolov? I'll be focused on him mainly. He's both the reigning super heavyweight world & Olympic champion going for his second Olympic gold medal. As a pro he's 14-0 with all knockouts. I think he's probably the future of the heavyweight division in the professional ranks. Supposedly he's going to commit fully to the pros and this will be his last Olympic run.

 

[Ballsaque]

Yeah. Are you familiar with Bakhodir Jalolov? I'll be focused on him mainly. He's both the reigning super heavyweight world & Olympic champion going for his second Olympic gold medal. As a pro he's 14-0 with all knockouts. I think he's probably the future of the heavyweight division in the professional ranks. Supposedly he's going to commit fully to the pros and this will be his last Olympic run.

No but my mans looking scary as hell and massive! I will have to watch a few of his fights.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

No but my mans looking scary as hell and massive! I will have to watch a few of his fights.

Yep he's a huge athletic sharpshooter with a laser straight left hand that he'll double up on. And he'll only get better with more pro experience. That's a scary proposition for anyone.

 

[ironfist05]

This is why winning multiples golds isn’t valued much higher than winning just one.

First gold is a great accomplishment.

Second gold, you’re a grown man fighting children.

Third gold, you’re a grown man in your prime fighting children. It’s as if Tank davis fought and beat Curmel Moton.

eh people say this but its worth remembering most of these brackets are guys 25 and older, if you won, you probably faced a lot of guys who are pro aged

 

[ironfist05]

I feel like my country, Brasil, is coming in hot for these Olympic Games. It was the country with most medals (and golds) at the Santiago Panamerican Games and only one of the 13 athletes didn't medal

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The whole team is solid, but I think Luiz Oliveira 57kg, Jucielen Romeu 57kg, Bia Ferreira 60kg and Keno Machado 92kg all have great chances at snatching a gold one

Brazil has been a huge amateur boxing success story these past few cycles

 

[ironfist05]

also everybody watch out for Jamal Harvey. kid is disgustingly talented

 

[Lucas Coradini]

They're not comparable at all.

Exactly what I think and precisely what you're doing.

 

[RascalBird]

also everybody watch out for Jamal Harvey. kid is disgustingly talented

Jahmal is very talented but I don't think he is the favorite to win gold. He will do good to medal. There's an Uzbek guy that is probably the favorite, I'll have to find his name.

Jahmal has great handspeed and Iike his footwork generally. I think he keeps his lead hand too low, and that he can rush in while leaving himself open for counters. Some of the Central Asian and European fighters have vastly more experience too. He's a guy that may have more luck in the pros, looks like he is developing a little power too. I wish him well, it's always great to root for local boxers.

 

[Kovalev's "Man Bag"]

Exactly what I think and precisely what you're doing.

I only briefly compared them to make a point. Ultimately it doesn't really matter. If a nation wins 'N' medals at an Olympiad then that's their medal count. A women's boxing medal counts the same as a men's boxing medal (by default they're combined). On the surface they're equal.