NBA ***2024 NBA Thread - Let The Games Begin***

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MusterX said:
I saw a thing earlier talking about Luka and the MVP race. This season he has had (8) 40 point games, (23) 30 point games, (28) double-doubles, (10) triple doubles, and there is still 30 games left. The only two players in history with multiple 60 point games before the age of 25 is Michael Jordan and Luka Doncic. He dropped the most efficient 70 ball in NBA history, 73 on 90%TS. If they don't give this guy the MVP, people are going to look back and wonder what in the actual fuck. He's damn near going to finish the season averaging a 35 point triple double.
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He's doing fantastic, and has had some outrageously good stat lines, but no, he's not in the getting robbed of the MVP if he doesn't get it category by any stretch. BR model which I think is a good baseline to start a discussion has him at 3rd. Doncic would probably be one of the lowest ranked in WS/48 in the past 20 years or so if he won (if I had to guess).
 
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He's doing fantastic, and has had some outrageously good stat lines, but no, he's not in the getting robbed of the MVP if he doesn't get it category by any stretch. BR model which I think is a good baseline to start a discussion has him at 3rd. Doncic would probably be one of the lowest ranked in WS/48 in the past 20 years or so if he won (if I had to guess).
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Obviously I'm from Dallas so I'm not an impartial judge, however, no player has averaged at least 35/6/6 since Harden, who won MVP, and before that Michael Jordan did it in 1987-88, he also won MVP. Luka could finish somewhere around 35/9/10.
 
Ten games into Rivers' tenure, and the Bucks are just a disappointing 3-7. It would've always been tough sledding to quickly get a quality rhythm with a new coach in late January/early February. That's understandable. But the struggles are still clearly weighing on Antetokounmpo and friends.

So much so that, according to The Athletic, Antetokounmpo spoke up on what the Bucks have been dealing with during his All-Star Weekend media availability. Let me just say that his comments were rather ... ironic:

“It’s hard. It’s hard. This is my fourth coach in the span of six months," Antetokounmpo said. "Coach (Mike Budenholzer), coach (Adrian Griffin), (interim) coach Joe (Prunty) and Doc (Rivers). Different philosophy, different game plan. It’s hard. It’s draining."
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MusterX said:
Obviously I'm from Dallas so I'm not an impartial judge, however, no player has averaged at least 35/6/6 since Harden, who won MVP, and before that Michael Jordan did it in 1987-88, he also won MVP. Luka could finish somewhere around 35/9/10.
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Yeah, those lines are incredible. Although there's more scoring inflation these days but it's the cream of the crop.

But it appears pretty fleshed out that team record/seeding matters to voters, which is hurting Luka at the moment (though that can change). At one end the continuum the best individual lines will get you nowhere for MVP if your team doesn't at least make post-season - at the other end, being on the best team record wise and considered the best player tends to get some favor from voters, even if the team is stacked with talent and your contribution isn't all that impactful as other top candidates i.e. Jason Tatum.

The part on the continuum that tends to hit the sweet spot for MVPs are PER metrics and WS/48 metrics. Embiid, Giannis, Jokic have been crushing it there the past few years. For instance this year for WS/48 SGA, Jokic and Embiid have a pretty notable gap to the league, and no coincidence (when Embiid was healthy) had a huge lion's share of MVP probability on them.

Doncic is a bit behind on the team metrics and the advanced metrics, but not that much IMO. And there's time left in the season, if he and the team finishes strong he might just get it.
 
MusterX said:
Obviously I'm from Dallas so I'm not an impartial judge, however, no player has averaged at least 35/6/6 since Harden, who won MVP, and before that Michael Jordan did it in 1987-88, he also won MVP. Luka could finish somewhere around 35/9/10.
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LOL @ Draymond saying Doncic will never try hard enough to win ASG MVP.

Funny because it's true..... maybe. Edit: Nice layup Luka lol.
 
Unknown Pleasures said:
LOL @ Draymond saying Doncic will never try hard enough to win ASG MVP.

Funny because it's true..... maybe. Edit: Nice layup Luka lol.
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I think as he ages he will have at least 1 or 2 games where he decides to actually try. Possibly a late career ASG MVP.
 
Game is pretty trash so far. Typical next to no defense, no big highlight dunks, a few fancy threes but nothing too much on that front either.
 
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Aww I was hoping for Ice Spice for the HT show

they keep making NBA worse and worse with all this extra shit they try to do
 
MM808 said:
Lmao at the under being a lock and bet your house on it. Highest scoring half in all star game history

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It's still a LOCK. I am getting messages from friends though asking where is the local food bank and who's the local loan shark least likely to break knee-caps!
 
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It's still a LOCK. I am getting messages from friends though asking where is the local food bank and who's the local loan shark least likely to break knee-caps!
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You already showed your inexperience with betting by even suggesting an under in an all star game lol. Like I said, it’s good you don’t bet.

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West getting their backs blown out. Maybe next year they will try, but probably not.
 
Watching the shooting gallery what the all-star game needs is a autistic player to take it as serious as a playoff game.
 
The over will hit by the end of the 3rd quarter lmao
 
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