International 2023 Nobel Prize In Medicine go to mRNA Pioneering Doctors Katalin Kariko and Drew Weissman

[Andy Capp]

lol... You're kidding right.

Nearly 100,000 more deaths involving heart conditions and stroke than usual since pandemic began (UK)
22 June 2023
https://www.bhf.org.uk/what-we-do/n...e/100000-excess-deaths-cardiovascular-disease

So, you're saying you trust what excess death data tells us about COVID-related deaths before and after the vaccines became available, is that right? You know, the data that shows the true death toll from COVID-19 being around 20 million people and the sharp decline in fatalities following introduction of the vaccine?

And, you know, your own graph that shows the additional excess deaths over and above COVID appear to have remained roughly proportional over the period covered? In this country, one main reason for additional excess deaths is the drain on resources caused by COVID cases interfering in routine checkups and other doctor's visits delaying detection of developing illness.

And no, I had not seen this information prior to now. Even so, that doesn't mean they are the result of the COVID vaccine. I will be interested to look into that further when I have time but I'm willing to bet no causal link will be found between them and the COVID vaccine. I guess time will tell.

 

[calavera2]

Kinda fake and gay

 

[Snubnoze707]

Of course it deserves the award. It was what allowed us to end the pandemic and keep people out of the hospital. It was also new tech and turned around quickly.

No, natural immunity did that. Everyone got COVID anyways.

It's also not "new tech" Dr Robert Malone and others created mRNA technology decades ago.

 

[Greco_Wiz]

So, you're saying you trust what excess death data tells us about COVID-related deaths before and after the vaccines became available, is that right? You know, the data that shows the true death toll from COVID-19 being around 20 million people and the sharp decline in fatalities following introduction of the vaccine?

And, you know, your own graph that shows the additional excess deaths over and above COVID appear to have remained roughly proportional over the period covered? In this country, one main reason for additional excess deaths is the drain on resources caused by COVID cases interfering in routine checkups and other doctor's visits delaying detection of developing illness.

And no, I had not seen this information prior to now. Even so, that doesn't mean they are the result of the COVID vaccine. I will be interested to look into that further when I have time but I'm willing to bet no causal link will be found between them and the COVID vaccine. I guess time will tell.

Don’t take anything he says seriously. Here’s a link. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-p-scores-projected-baseline?country=USA~GBR You can select any country you like. Across the world, excess deaths have plummeted since the height of the pandemic, and in the US they’re back to pre-pandemic levels. The UK is roughly there too.

More importantly though, these types of nation-level analyses are not appropriate for making conclusions about benefits or dangers of vaccination. It’s what we call an ecological fallacy in statistics. And there’s no need for it. We have overwhelming (and I mean that in every sense of the word) data that are generated from vaccination status of individuals which can then be used for causal inference. There is nothing more clear in the history of medicine — the vaccines saved many millions of lives. I’d argue as many 50-70 million worldwide.

 

[AnGrYcRoW]

Good on them

 

[PhitePhan]

The dude who invented the lobotomy also has a Nobel prize.

“The originator of the procedure, Portuguese neurologist António Egas Moniz, shared the Nobel Prize for Physiology or Medicine of 1949 for the "discovery of the therapeutic value of leucotomy in certain psychoses"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobotomy

 

[mon]

Everything comes out in the wash and everyone talks.

https://sashalatypova.substack.com/...364&post_id=137626119&isFreemail=true&r=x2a5a

"Curious history of a Nobel laureate Katalin Kariko, alias Zsolt Lengyel
In light of being awarded Nobel Prize for Mass Murder Injections, it is important to ask questions about Kariko's history as an intelligence agent"

""KARIKÓ KATALIN (Szolnok, 17.01.1955, Zsuzsanna Goóz) Data on card index 6: Occupation in 1978: research assistant. Worked at the Biological Centre of the Hungarian Academy of Sciences in Szeged. Temporary residence at that time, Szeged, Budapesti körút 26. His party affiliation was KISZ. Hungarian nationality and citizenship. He was recruited on 31.10.1978 by László Salgó, r. hdgy. of the BM Cs. M., under the patriotic name of "Zsolt Lengyel". His occupation is counterintelligence. Date of registration 02.11.1978. File number illegible on file. First contact is his recruiter. There is no trace on the file of his exclusion from the network or of his placement in the file cabinet, which suggests that he was employed until 1990. Other information. (Source: ÁBTL 1.11.10.) (Emphasis added by the author.)

"The secret agent Zsolt Lengyel, alias Zsolt Lengyel, was in reality a woman, first name Katalin" (László Bálint)

Page from the book in Hungarian:"
Look at the link honkers.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katalin_Karikó
"Katalin "Kati" Karikó (Hungarian: Karikó Katalin, pronounced [ˈkɒrikoː ˌkɒtɒlin]; born 17 January 1955) is a Hungarian-American[2] biochemist"


This is where you need the powers of narrative retardation to just trust and believe in their own words.

"Katalin Karikó admitted that she was recruited, but "I did not give a written report, I did not harm anyone""

Of course she didn't, why would someone that may be complicit in a crime lie about the crime.


Plenty in the thread but wgaf that a Nobel peace prize was awarded to stop vaxxine hesitancy, for two scientists that didn't invent it, one of which was most like in state intelligence. Lmfao, safe and effective get into it honkers.

 

[4daLuLZ]

Didn't they give this to Obama for some peacekeeping reasons right before he bombed civilians and went back on promises of peace?

Who gives a shit about the clown show? It's like Hollywood award shows, a bunch of pricks jerking each other off as if we should be interested...

No. They did not give the Nobel Prize for Medicine to Barack Obama for peacekeeping reasons.



And who cares ? Literally every professional intellectual genius does. The winners have consistently benefited mankind in such ways that their effects are felt for decades afterwards.

To equate this with Oscar award winners for entertainment means you’re such an imbecile that if you even approached within a hundred yards of the event or a candidate, you should be immediately tazed, tagged and released into the wild. Far away and monitored.

Idiot.

 

[4daLuLZ]

I can't believe they passed over the Tucker Carlson ball tanning station.

If the guy had just thought to turn around, Tucky Carlson and Trump would’ve been the ones sharing the Nobel Prize for Medicine.

 

[ColemanwastheGOAT]

 

[badascan]

No. They did not give the Nobel Prize for Medicine to Barack Obama for peacekeeping reasons.



And who cares ? Literally every professional intellectual genius does. The winners have consistently benefited mankind in such ways that their effects are felt for decades afterwards.

To equate this with Oscar award winners for entertainment means you’re such an imbecile that if you even approached within a hundred yards of the event or a candidate, you should be immediately tazed, tagged and released into the wild. Far away and monitored.

Idiot.

right...

 

[eddymotto]

Everything comes out in the wash and everyone talks.

https://sashalatypova.substack.com/...364&post_id=137626119&isFreemail=true&r=x2a5a

"Curious history of a Nobel laureate Katalin Kariko, alias Zsolt Lengyel
In light of being awarded Nobel Prize for Mass Murder Injections, it is important to ask questions about Kariko's history as an intelligence agent"

""KARIKÓ KATALIN (Szolnok, 17.01.1955, Zsuzsanna Goóz) Data on card index 6: Occupation in 1978: research assistant. Worked at the Biological Centre of the Hungarian Academy of Sciences in Szeged. Temporary residence at that time, Szeged, Budapesti körút 26. His party affiliation was KISZ. Hungarian nationality and citizenship. He was recruited on 31.10.1978 by László Salgó, r. hdgy. of the BM Cs. M., under the patriotic name of "Zsolt Lengyel". His occupation is counterintelligence. Date of registration 02.11.1978. File number illegible on file. First contact is his recruiter. There is no trace on the file of his exclusion from the network or of his placement in the file cabinet, which suggests that he was employed until 1990. Other information. (Source: ÁBTL 1.11.10.) (Emphasis added by the author.)

"The secret agent Zsolt Lengyel, alias Zsolt Lengyel, was in reality a woman, first name Katalin" (László Bálint)

Page from the book in Hungarian:"
Look at the link honkers.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katalin_Karikó
"Katalin "Kati" Karikó (Hungarian: Karikó Katalin, pronounced [ˈkɒrikoː ˌkɒtɒlin]; born 17 January 1955) is a Hungarian-American[2] biochemist"


This is where you need the powers of narrative retardation to just trust and believe in their own words.

"Katalin Karikó admitted that she was recruited, but "I did not give a written report, I did not harm anyone""

Of course she didn't, why would someone that may be complicit in a crime lie about the crime.


Plenty in the thread but wgaf that a Nobel peace prize was awarded to stop vaxxine hesitancy, for two scientists that didn't invent it, one of which was most like in state intelligence. Lmfao, safe and effective get into it honkers.

this is a work of art. One of the most amazing things I have read recently. Bravo

 

[wlu.29]

Everything comes out in the wash and everyone talks.

https://sashalatypova.substack.com/...364&post_id=137626119&isFreemail=true&r=x2a5a

"Curious history of a Nobel laureate Katalin Kariko, alias Zsolt Lengyel
In light of being awarded Nobel Prize for Mass Murder Injections, it is important to ask questions about Kariko's history as an intelligence agent"

""KARIKÓ KATALIN (Szolnok, 17.01.1955, Zsuzsanna Goóz) Data on card index 6: Occupation in 1978: research assistant. Worked at the Biological Centre of the Hungarian Academy of Sciences in Szeged. Temporary residence at that time, Szeged, Budapesti körút 26. His party affiliation was KISZ. Hungarian nationality and citizenship. He was recruited on 31.10.1978 by László Salgó, r. hdgy. of the BM Cs. M., under the patriotic name of "Zsolt Lengyel". His occupation is counterintelligence. Date of registration 02.11.1978. File number illegible on file. First contact is his recruiter. There is no trace on the file of his exclusion from the network or of his placement in the file cabinet, which suggests that he was employed until 1990. Other information. (Source: ÁBTL 1.11.10.) (Emphasis added by the author.)

"The secret agent Zsolt Lengyel, alias Zsolt Lengyel, was in reality a woman, first name Katalin" (László Bálint)

Page from the book in Hungarian:"
Look at the link honkers.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katalin_Karikó
"Katalin "Kati" Karikó (Hungarian: Karikó Katalin, pronounced [ˈkɒrikoː ˌkɒtɒlin]; born 17 January 1955) is a Hungarian-American[2] biochemist"


This is where you need the powers of narrative retardation to just trust and believe in their own words.

"Katalin Karikó admitted that she was recruited, but "I did not give a written report, I did not harm anyone""

Of course she didn't, why would someone that may be complicit in a crime lie about the crime.


Plenty in the thread but wgaf that a Nobel peace prize was awarded to stop vaxxine hesitancy, for two scientists that didn't invent it, one of which was most like in state intelligence. Lmfao, safe and effective get into it honkers.

So the Nobel winner was a Hungarian spy?

Hungary needs more respect on its name

 

[mon]

So the Nobel winner was a Hungarian spy?

Hungary needs more respect on its name

You sound vaxxed? How many and approximate time frames please?

My post is clear and when added to my others you have an intelligence agent that was allowed to immigrate/recruited into the USA awarded and acknowledged as an undeserving Nobel peace prize to counter vaccine hesitancy for a deliberately mislabeled gene therapy (which that act makes it a bioweapon according to the US government criteria).

The same dod and US intelligence services that were involved in the vaccine development and rollout. Just perhaps she still is, grounds for thought but there is a massive antithinker movement in sherdog so you do you.

this is a work of art. One of the most amazing things I have read recently. Bravo

Missing the nuances, do we know one another? Care to elaborate?






Either way this thread is a joke of gigantic proportions, zero actual investigation into another debacle. A conspiracy fact by the look and most are once again blindly believing anything the authorities are telling them.
Good luck if you still believe this shit

 

[LeonardoBjj]

I don't think the dig at Penn makes a lot of sense. She could be a great research scientist and a terrible professor. Those skills are quite different.

- This happens all the time. Great football players, when go coaching, became bad coachs. Great fighters, became horrible teachers, and the other way around.

 

[eddymotto]

You sound vaxxed? How many and approximate time frames please?

My post is clear and when added to my others you have an intelligence agent that was allowed to immigrate/recruited into the USA awarded and acknowledged as an undeserving Nobel peace prize to counter vaccine hesitancy for a deliberately mislabeled gene therapy which that act makes it a bioweapon according to the US government criteria.

The same dod and US intelligence services that were involved in the vaccine development and rollout. Just perhaps she still is, grounds for thought but there is a massive antithinker movement in sherdog so you do you.






Missing the nuances, do we know one another? Care to elaborate?






Either way this tread is a joke of gigantic proportions, zero actual investigation into another debacle. A conspiracy fact by the look and most are once again blinding believing anything the authorities are telling them.
Good luck if you still believe this shit

elaborate?

you wrote an AMAZING post & I recognized it as such!!!!

 

[mon]

elaborate?

you wrote an AMAZING post & I recognized it as such!!!!

Sorry mate, whenever you post against the narrative you expect the worst and its best to just ask.

Also I appreciate the props and thank you but its not my work, I'm just highlighting her knowledge.
I try to use sources from specialists or experts in their fields, please consider visiting the vaxx thread because contrary to what the honking brigade are stating this isn't over by far and its worse now then ever.

 

[Andy Capp]

elaborate?

you wrote an AMAZING post & I recognized it as such!!!!

lol

 

[Arkain2K]

New mRNA flu vaccine show promises
By Dr. Priyom Bose, Ph.D. | Oct 15 2023

Every year, millions of individuals are infected by the seasonal influenza virus, which results in hundreds of thousands of deaths worldwide. Vaccination is an effective approach used to prevent influenza infection.

Influenza vaccines are developed using hemagglutinin (HA), a surface antigen of the virus that induces an immune response. A recent Npj Vaccines study evaluates the efficacy of a quadrivalent messenger ribonucleic acid (mRNA) vaccine encoding HA from four seasonal influenza strains.

Importance of influenza vaccination

Influenza is a respiratory infection that manifests in annual epidemics and sporadic pandemics. The four influenza subtypes endemic in humans are A(H1N1), B-Yamagata lineage, A(H3N2), and B-Victoria lineage. This seasonal viral infection causes up to 650,000 deaths annually worldwide.

The first influenza vaccine was developed in the 1940s by harvesting inactivated viruses from the allantoic fluid of embryonated hens' eggs. Currently, three types of influenza vaccines are available in the United States, including live attenuated influenza vaccines (LAIV), inactivated influenza vaccines (IIV), and recombinant HA protein subunit vaccines.

Although HA is highly immunogenic, it undergoes continual antigenic drift; therefore, updating vaccines based on the dominantly circulating influenza virus strain is imperative. Importantly, virus strain selection occurs six months prior to vaccine use, which creates an opportunity for a new variant to emerge and become unexpectedly dominant. A similar incident occurred between 2015 and 2016 during the Northern Hemisphere flu season.

Advantages of mRNA-based influenza vaccine

Although mRNA-based vaccines were being designed and developed for over a decade, the onset of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) accelerated the development process for its timely clinical use. Since then, millions of people throughout the world have received mRNA-based COVID-19 vaccines that effectively protect them against the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), the causal agent of the pandemic.

Compared to conventional IIV and LAIV influenza vaccines, mRNA-based vaccines have many advantages, including their in vitro production process without the use of eggs or cell culture. The mRNA technology also eliminates the risk of viral growth-promoting mutations that might influence antigenicity.

Another advantage of an mRNA-based influenza vaccine is reduced production time compared to other vaccine types. This could be beneficial in reducing the time window between the vaccination program and virus strain selection and manufacturing.

https://www.news-medical.net/news/2...ster-to-produce-highly-effective-in-mice.aspx

 

[fungi]

Obama got Nobel peace prize.
i.e. nobel prize is a political award.
i.e. it means squat in reality.

P.s. of course they gave it for Covid vaccine.
Newsflash, new vaccines are coming. SOON.
Prepare your diddly holes.