2020 Motorsports thread.

ralphc1 said:
Is it easier to believe Kyle couldn't see Chase's car?
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I don't think so. Though there's almost no visibility on the right side, I think there was enough of Chase's car ahead of Kyle. From basically the left rear forward. Even then, where was the spotter?
 
PRIDEWASBETTER said:
I don't think so. Though there's almost no visibility on the right side, I think there was enough of Chase's car ahead of Kyle. From basically the left rear forward. Even then, where was the spotter?
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The right front corner of their car is the easiest part for the driver to see. It would be good to know what the spotter was telling Kyle. I suspect the spotter was informing Kyle that Harvick was closing on him as trying to get some side draft from Chase was slowing them both. That would have made Kyle want to get back in line. The spotters usually tells the drivers about the cars behind them not the ones in front of them.
Here is some video of what a driver sees from a helmet cam view.
 
ralphc1 said:
The right front corner of their car is the easiest part for the driver to see. It would be good to know what the spotter was telling Kyle. I suspect the spotter was informing Kyle that Harvick was closing on him as trying to get some side draft from Chase was slowing them both. That would have made Kyle want to get back in line. The spotters usually tells the drivers about the cars behind them not the ones in front of them.
Here is some video of what a driver sees from a helmet cam view.
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From the press box view, there was plenty of room for Kyle to get back in line. Even if he does, I guarantee Harvick goes low.
 
Just when it looked like Chase Elliott appeared to be headed for the win with 2 laps to go his team mate, William Byron, blows a tire and brings out a caution. They decided to pit Chase from the lead and several cars didn't pit including Brad Keselowski who eventually won the race. Chase finished third.

It's always a difficult choice for the leader's team whether or not to pit on a caution in the last few laps. You're pretty much damned either way. If they don't pit, everyone behind them does and have fresh tires to run the leader down. If they do pit, there are going to be teams that don't that will have to be passed.
 
They literally raced 15 laps at a time and then had a competition yellow.
It's like they're using the 20 minute caution clock AND stages.
Terrible.
 
red flag lap 230 at Bristol, 10 car pileup
never used to like short track racing but this has
been a good one so far
 
Kyle Busch win a damn race. I got 20 dollars to win 200. The rest of my drivers are bums, so it's all in on Kyle
 
HydralisK said:
Kyle Busch win a damn race. I got 20 dollars to win 200. The rest of my drivers are bums, so it's all in on Kyle
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Kyle ended up with a pretty good day in a rather odd race. Harvick was fast at the start but the car got loose before the end of the first stage and Truex was fast, winning the first two stages. Busch was slower than Truex. The teams got Harvick's and Kyle's cars better. Truex, whose car was good on the long runs early wasn't as good later as he ran second and Busch got by him in the closing laps. Bowyer was fast for much of the second stage but wore out his right rear tire and had to make an extra pit stop.

Bubba Wallace wasn't in very good shape at the end of the race. He passed out and was carried to the pit wall. Then he was sitting on the wall being interviewed, his eyes rolled back in his head and he almost fell over. They interviewed Kyle then they went back to show Bubba sitting on the pit wall and it looked like he passed out again. NASCAR really wanted an interview with a black driver today but it didn't work out.
 
ralphc1 said:
Kyle ended up with a pretty good day in a rather odd race. Harvick was fast at the start but the car got loose before the end of the first stage and Truex was fast, winning the first two stages. Busch was slower than Truex. The teams got Harvick's and Kyle's cars better. Truex, whose car was good on the long runs early wasn't as good later as he ran second and Busch got by him in the closing laps. Bowyer was fast for much of the second stage but wore out his right rear tire and had to make an extra pit stop.

Bubba Wallace wasn't in very good shape at the end of the race. He passed out and was carried to the pit wall. Then he was sitting on the wall being interviewed, his eyes rolled back in his head and he almost fell over. They interviewed Kyle then they went back to show Bubba sitting on the pit wall and it looked like he passed out again. NASCAR really wanted an interview with a black driver today but it didn't work out.
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That was odd. It was almost like he was having a mild seizure or something when his speech slurred and his eyes rolled back in his head.

The camera panned in to what they thought was Bubba having an emotional moment and then they quickly realized that wasn't what was happening at all and they cut away. Hope he's ok.
 
MoparOrNoCar said:
That was odd. It was almost like he was having a mild seizure or something when his speech slurred and his eyes rolled back in his head.

The camera panned in to what they thought was Bubba having an emotional moment and then they quickly realized that wasn't what was happening at all and they cut away. Hope he's ok.
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Some people don't consider racers athletes but to drive a car at those speeds in the heat and humidity for over 3 hours takes a lot out of them physically. The forces on the body in the turns can push a driver down into the seat harder as well as sideways into the seat. The driver still has to breathe with all of those forces acting on them. They didn't have any yesterday but they have had thermometers inside the cars showing temperatures over 130 degrees. They do have duct-work connected to their helmets to bring in some outside air. Many drivers become dehydrated.
 
ralphc1 said:
Some people don't consider racers athletes but to drive a car at those speeds in the heat and humidity for over 3 hours takes a lot out of them physically. The forces on the body in the turns can push a driver down into the seat harder as well as sideways into the seat. The driver still has to breathe with all of those forces acting on them. They didn't have any yesterday but they have had thermometers inside the cars showing temperatures over 130 degrees. They do have duct-work connected to their helmets to bring in some outside air. Many drivers become dehydrated.
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Crazy thing is the insides of the cars feel like Cadillacs compared to the cars of yesteryear where they didn't have cool packs or a whole lot of ventilation. They also dealt with the floor boards burning blisters into their heels. I remember pit stops where they used to hand them a ziplock bag full of ice to put down the front of their fire suits. Drivers even admitted that fatigue played a huge part in who was still fast at the end of some races. I think Jeff Gordon even talked about having to hold his breath during the corners at Bristol because it was difficult to breathe with the G force load on him.
 
MoparOrNoCar said:
Crazy thing is the insides of the cars feel like Cadillacs compared to the cars of yesteryear where they didn't have cool packs or a whole lot of ventilation. They also dealt with the floor boards burning blisters into their heels. I remember pit stops where they used to hand them a ziplock bag full of ice to put down the front of their fire suits. Drivers even admitted that fatigue played a huge part in who was still fast at the end of some races. I think Jeff Gordon even talked about having to hold his breath during the corners at Bristol because it was difficult to breathe with the G force load on him.
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In the old days, the only window they had was the windshield. There was a lot more air flowing through and under the cars. As aerodynamics became more important, rear windows and front spoilers were added to keep air out from under the car. Right side windows were added to try to prevent rollovers and the cars are more closed than ever. They've tried cool suits with ice chests that water is pumped through to cool them but the ice doesn't last through the race. The bags of ice melt and if they leak, the driver ends up sitting in a pool of 130 degree water.
 
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