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Elections 2020 Democratic Primary Thread: The Announcements

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Trotsky said:
Of the total vote? No, that would require him being in the final group. But he has national name recognition, is a very effective campaigner, has decent financial backers, and should get a small bump with the black community. Right now it looks like his average poling figure is about 3.5%.
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Is your prediction that he will hit 5% in some polling average at some point in the future?
 
I know he's not a legitimate candidate at least yet, but I really do like Andrew Yang a lot. He's smart, versatile, self-scrutinizing, and bold. He's like Pete Buttigieg in terms of his intelligence and eloquence, but he takes questions head on consistently instead of talking around them.

In fact....you know what, that's it, boys, it's time to re-order Trotsky's official 2020 preferred candidates list:

1. Bernie Sanders
2. Elizabeth Warren
3. Andrew Yang
4. Tulsi Gabbard
5. Pete Buttigieg
6. Kamala Harris
7. Cory Booker
8. Jay Inslee
9. Amy Klobuchar
10. John Hickenlooper
11. Beto O'Rourke
12. Julian Castro
13. Joe Biden
14. Tim Ryan
15. Kirsten Gillibrand
16. Eric Swalwell

@Jack V Savage @Fawlty @BarryDillon @kpt018 @luckyshot @Kafir-kun
Please let the candidates know of their new positions and adjust the betting odds accordingly.
 
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Trotsky said:
I know he's not a legitimate candidate at least yet, but I really do like Andrew Yang a lot. He's smart, versatile, self-scrutinizing, and bold. He's like Pete Buttigieg in terms of his intelligence and eloquence, but he takes questions head on consistently instead of talking around them.

In fact....you know what, that's it, boys, it's time to re-order Trotsky's official 2020 preferred candidates list:

1. Bernie Sanders
2. Elizabeth Warren
3. Andrew Yang
4. Tulsi Gabbard
5. Pete Buttigieg
6. Kamala Harris
7. Cory Booker
8. Jay Inslee
9. Amy Klobuchar
10. John Hickenlooper
11. Beto O'Rourke
12. Julian Castro
13. Tim Ryan
14. Kirsten Gillibrand
15. Eric Swalwell

@Jack V Savage @Fawlty @BarryDillon @kpt018 @luckyshot @Kafir-kun
Please let the candidates know of their new positions and adjust the betting odds accordingly.
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Yang also has ideas for what he would do if elected. He's not talking gibberish about how someday little black republicans and black democrats will be able to join hands with little white republicans and white democrats as sisters and brothers.
 
JudoThrowFiasco said:
How long before the Bernie team gets him into the tanning booth and some veneers on those chompers...because Joe is coming in hard and he is far more marketable
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Joe looks dope and ready to grope
 
Anung Un Rama said:
Yang also has ideas for what he would do if elected. He's not talking gibberish about how someday little black republicans and black democrats will be able to join hands with little white republicans and white democrats as sisters and brothers.
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I think Buttigieg clearly has a firm grasp on issues and would probably be very effective in pursuing a progressive agenda. And I don't have as much a problem with his not focusing on specific policies or making himself a single-issue candidate, but his specific responses to those criticisms have irked me a bit, as have his egocentric rhetorical tendencies.

But he's still a really, really impressive dude to me. Even during the town hall when he disagreed with Sanders about incarcerated voting, he did so in a really succinct, on-point, and persuasive way.
 
Trotsky said:
I think Buttigieg clearly has a firm grasp on issues and would probably be very effective in pursuing a progressive agenda. And I don't have as much a problem with his not focusing on specific policies or making himself a single-issue candidate, but his specific responses to those criticisms have irked me a bit, as have his egocentric rhetorical tendencies.

But he's still a really, really impressive dude to me. Even during the town hall when he disagreed with Sanders about incarcerated voting, he did so in a really succinct, on-point, and persuasive way.
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Agreed on his answer about voting rights. He was wrong, but his answer was legit and, shockingly enough, an actual answer.
I don't think he'll pursue a progressive anything; nothing he has said so far has hinted that he is anything but another neoliberal.
Whats going to happen is he's going to reveal a basic, unambitious centrist platform and the MSM is going to deify him while throwing him softball questions to elevate him while throwing gotcha questions at Sanders.
 
Trotsky said:
Even during the town hall when he disagreed with Sanders about incarcerated voting, he did so in a really succinct, on-point, and persuasive way.
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It's exactly the sort of issue the framers intended to be left to the states to decide. We've steered so far from federalism at this point that the "states' rights" aspect doesn't even come up in these town halls. Also, I don't think Buttigieg explained at all why being incarcerated should deprive one of the right to vote. He just sort of hand-waved that part away with "they lose other rights, so they can lose this one too."

For my state, I'm with Sanders on this. I also respect the right of other states to decide for themselves.
 
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the clinton vs sanders debates sucked because Bernie was too nice and kept saying "yes maam" "your turn maam"

this time its going to be how each liberal out crazies the other. Trump will be eating popcorn
 
TrumpSupporter said:
the clinton vs sanders debates sucked because Bernie was too nice and kept saying "yes maam" "your turn maam"

this time its going to be how each liberal out crazies the other. Trump will be eating popcorn
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Are there going to be 20 people on the stage at once? Seems almost unworkable.
 
gun to the head I would vote Biden. He is going to be on stage with all these wackos and having a look like "whats wrong with you people?"
 
JudoThrowFiasco said:
In Joe vs the field or Joe vs Bernie?
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Your original claim would have been Joe vs. The Field, but we can do a Joe vs. Bernie as that might be more interesting. If one makes it to the general we have a winner, if neither then its a wash?
 
Anung Un Rama said:
Joe looks dope and ready to grope
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A great irony of the 2020 election— if Biden wins the Dem primary— the GOP is going to be the party spamming “Me toooo!!!!”

Of course, their base, much of which was against the Me Too movement, will suddenly think it’s the most important thing in the world.
 
Trotsky said:
I know he's not a legitimate candidate at least yet, but I really do like Andrew Yang a lot. He's smart, versatile, self-scrutinizing, and bold. He's like Pete Buttigieg in terms of his intelligence and eloquence, but he takes questions head on consistently instead of talking around them.

In fact....you know what, that's it, boys, it's time to re-order Trotsky's official 2020 preferred candidates list:

1. Bernie Sanders
2. Elizabeth Warren
3. Andrew Yang
4. Tulsi Gabbard
5. Pete Buttigieg
6. Kamala Harris
7. Cory Booker
8. Jay Inslee
9. Amy Klobuchar
10. John Hickenlooper
11. Beto O'Rourke
12. Julian Castro
13. Tim Ryan
14. Kirsten Gillibrand
15. Eric Swalwell

@Jack V Savage @Fawlty @BarryDillon @kpt018 @luckyshot @Kafir-kun
Please let the candidates know of their new positions and adjust the betting odds accordingly.
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This is a good list except I have no idea what to do with Yang and I’m no fan of Gabbard. I know that his main policy goal is basic universal income but otherwise I don’t know shit about him. Mine is something like this:

1. Buttigieg (my man needs to lay out his policy agenda soon though)
2. Warren
3. Bernie
4. Harris
5. Biden
6. Klobachar
7. Booker
8. Beto
9. Gabbard

Don’t care after that. Still bummed Sherrod Brown didn’t run, but I get it (fuck fighting through this field). But he would have very likely have been my top guy.

Related question for you. How do we expect regular, non-political junkies to decide from this field? Seems ridiculous to me.
 
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