Elections 2020 Democratic Primary Thread: The Announcements

[BassAckwards]

Then it's mutiny and the Democrat establishment can lick my fucking taint. They brought us Trump even if not one Dem nuthugger will admit it

its not just the democratic establishment but also their voters.

the dems nominated the worst person they could and their voter base picked their poison, by not voting. CNN likes to pain this picture that it was uneducated whites that turned the election but it was their own voter base and voter apathy that caused trump to get elected. the so called educated whites didnt come out like they did for obama

 

[Lead]

Feinstein says she supports Joe Biden for 2020, and notes that Sen. Kamala Harris is ‘brand-new here’
LA Times

California Sen. Dianne Feinstein said Thursday that she supports former Vice President Joe Biden in what is likely to be a crowded 2020 Democratic presidential field.

That might make things awkward with Feinstein’s fellow Californian, Sen. Kamala Harris, who is also considering a run.

“He has the experience, the drive, he was chairman of [the Senate Judiciary Committee] when I came” to the Senate, Feinstein said Thursday. “I worked with him closely on a number of different things. I have a great respect for his integrity as well as his ability. And I think experience is really important at this particular point, where our world is today.”

Dianne Feinstein Throws Support Behind Joe Biden For 2020 Democratic Primary
Huffington Post

Sen. Dianne Feinstein said on Thursday that she would support former Vice President Joe Biden in a bid for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2020, but perhaps not her fellow California senator, Kamala Harris.

“Joe was chairman of the Judiciary [Committee] when he came to this place,” Feinstein told reporters, according to Politico. “I’ve watched him as vice president. I’ve seen him operate. I’ve seen him perform. He brings a level of experience and seniority, which I think is really important.”

Feinstein and Biden served together in the Senate for 16 years.

Dianne Feinstein’s 2020 pick: Joe Biden
Politco

Dianne Feinstein’s California colleague Kamala Harris may run for president. But Feinstein already has her preferred candidate in mind: Joe Biden.

The Democratic senator, fresh off reelection to a fifth term, told a pair of reporters on Thursday morning that the former vice president and Delaware senator is the ideal choice to run against President Donald Trump. This despite the fact that more than a half-dozen Senate Democrats, including Harris, are considering running for president in 2020.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Go ahead libs, character assinate the old hag for openly supporting the old white guy over the younger black woman.

 

[AlexDB9]

Go ahead libs, character assinate the old hag for openly supporting the old white guy over the younger black woman.

You know it’s going to happen

.....you know Kamala the ugandan nightmare might be dishonest as fuck but she kind of has an older milf Meghan Markle thing going on in that pic

 

[GearSolidMetal]

You know it’s going to happen

.....you know Kamala the ugandan nightmare might be dishonest as fuck but she kind of has an older milf Meghan Markle thing going on in that pic

The best photoshop artists on the planet can't help her during the debates.

 

[AlexDB9]

The best photoshop artists on the planet can't help her during the debates.

Hmmm

 

[ferrisjso]

Bernie/Tulsi/Steyer or burn in hell. I'll vote for Biden if I'm forced to but most progressives won't.

 

[Lead]

Martin O'Malley: Here's who I'd like to see run for president. (Hint: It's not me)
Des Moines Register

I will not be running for president in 2020, but I hope Beto O’Rourke does. And this is why.

In 2016, my long-shot presidential candidacy found its flame extinguished between a rock and an angry place in my own party. America wasn’t in the mood for new leadership. We were in a mood of anger, rage and retribution. And in this mood, Donald Trump’s candidacy rose. It was good for ratings, and good for the Russians; but, bad for America. And, we got what we got.

 

[japman40]

1. Bernie
2. Sherrod
3. Warren
4. Klobuchar

The rest can suck my big commie balls.

Even tulsi gabbard? She would make a great VP imo

 

[Trotsky]

Martin O'Malley is a moron. He was rejected because his platform was as vapid and uninspiring as he is. Being against the NRA is a posture, not a platform. It would make sense that he would want a pretty suit with little in the way of substance or potential for change.

Even tulsi gabbard? She would make a great VP imo

I wouldn't be against her, but she's not one of my favorites.

 

[japman40]

I'd vote Bernie Tulsi in a heart beat

A GOP Senate could block some of their left economic stuff. But they could really clean up with the foreign stuff.

Prediction. The media and establishment would attack that ticket just as hard as they do trump

I hope they do, that's the reason trump won. Because he received so much press he was on everyone's mind.

Bernie was ignored in 2016 they can't do that this time, they'll go the trump route.

 

[japman40]

Don't act so surprised.

What the DNC did fractured the party. It's my one complaint of Bernie- he should have ran third party and forced the DNC's hand in removing the old corrupt leadership that's still there today.

Instead they're adapting and I eagerly await their plan for suppressing the Bernie movement a second time. It would be the final nail in the coffin of incrementalism and change from within the party.

You sound like Jimmy Dore

 

[japman40]

you're pretty transparent, so there is no need. You're Team Establishment Democrat.



Its context. If the best candidate ever couldn't beat Trump without a strong third party challenge then why would a lesser candidate fare any better? I never claimed that you said it.



No, you're not grasping my point. You're entire angle for the 2020 election, in 2018, which is no different that it was in 2015-2016, is that Bernie is a threat to the Democratic Party, his supporters are crazy, and everybody needs to support the Democrat or you hate the world. You're argument in defense of that angle is that if Bernie does anything different than what he did in 2016, (ie run third party) the results will be the same, the Democrats lose. Essentially, your position is to marginalize Sanders early and often, just like 2016. If your goal was to see Trump ousted to save the world, and you were afraid Sanders could be a spoiler by running third party if he didn't get the nom, and you also claim to be left leaning who likes Sanders, then your posting would more resemble "we gotta get behind Bernie".

It's retarded for Bernie to run third party, our voting system is made for a two party duopoly. Unless we switch to a different type of voting system like ranked choice voting or something similar to that it's a waste. I'd rather have someone in office that follows thru with 60% of the policies I want than someone who does 10%.

This is coming from a big Bernie fan and progressive.

 

[japman40]

I'm referring to foreign policy my friend. And on that front Bushes, Clintons, Obama, Romney, McCain...all the same. Trump is different tho. Trump is actually trying to end some of these wars and ironically enough "liberals" are giving him hell for it.

Also again... You lose me when you start going on about conservative vs liberal or left vs right as all those terms are arbitrary, relative, and onstantly changing. One persons liberal is another persons conservative. So I don't know what you mean by pushing left or pushing right.

Neoliberals and corporate media are giving him hell for it. Progressives on the other hand think it's great for trump to start pulling troops from the useless wars we're in. Even though it should be made more cautiously and we shouldn't screw the Kurds in the process.

I still don't trust trump not to be hawkish in the future, he did want to attack Venezuela and NK. and he doesn't have any core beliefs so I don't trust him changing his mind halfway thru

 

[japman40]

@Lead here are my thoughts on your list:

Confirmed
John Delaney (US Congressman MD) (He has no chance. He just want the attention that comes with being first)

Possible
Joe Biden (Former Vice President)
(Best Chance of anyone on this list.)

Hillary Clinton (Former Secretary of State) (Won't happen. Historically, Democrats don't back losers a 2nd time)


Bernie Sanders (Senator VT)
(His endorsement of Hillary Clinton would ultimately be his undoing. President Trump would be able to turn Hillary Clinton into a campaign issue all over again. Bernie would be in a position where he would either have to admit he was lying when he endorsed Hillary, or he will have to defend Hillary, either option will cost him votes.)

Elizabeth Warren (Senator MA)
(She has a 1/1024th chance of winning the primary. She's now a joke online, not a serious candidate anymore. She's gone as far as she can go in Government. The most she can hope for is a cabinet position from now on.)

Their stance on gun control makes them a complete non-starter in the Rust-Belt, South, and Mid-West:
Kamala Harris (Senator CA)
Andrew Cuomo (Governor NY)
John Hickenlooper (Governor CO)
Micheal Bloomberg (Former Mayor NYC/CEO)


Corey Booker (Senator NJ)
(His comical "I am Sparticus" moment puts him in the same position as Warren. He's gone as far as he's going to go in Government spare some cabinet position.)

Voters will read these names and collectively ask "Who?":
Kirsten Gillibrand (Senator NY)
Amy Klobuchar (Senator MN)
Sherrod Brown (Senator OH)
Steve Bullock (Governor MT)
(Even if some of you personally like these picks, understand that they lose to President Trump by name recognition alone.)

Terry McAuliffe (Formerly Governor VA) (He has a better chance of being a VP candidate than anything else. The Democrats desperately need to hold Virginia in 2020. Unless a Virginian is on the ticket, they're going to have a hard time doing that.)


Eric Holder (Former US Attorney General) (@Jack V Savage actually mocked me when I brought up the notion of Eric Holder running for President (I already know he'll pretend not to know what I'm talking about, doesn't matter). Eric Holder isn't running for President per-say. He wants the attention that comes with running for President so he can easily become the mayor of a major metropolitan city. You heard it here first.)


Julian Castro (Former Secretary of HUD) (Being Hillary's VP reject isn't an actual qualification to be President. This guy got bit by the power and attention bug, and he wants another taste.)


Beto O'Rourke (US Congressman TX) (Beto "Over the legal limit" O'Rourke won't even make it out of the primary. The revelations of his drunk driving only came out a few weeks before the election, otherwise the Democrats would have never supported him in the first place.)


Tulsi Gabbard (US Congresswoman HI) (She has enough of a military record that she can actually challenge Republicans on foreign policy without looking weak. She would be an excellent VP pick.)


Oprah Winfrey (She's not going to run. No private person especially wants the kind of scrutiny of their personal lives that comes with running for President. Most people like the attention that comes with talking about running for President.)

You keep bringing bernie endorsing the democratic nominee after he lost like it's a bad thing. No one gives a fuck that he supported Clinton over Trump. Only stupid conservatives think that'll hurt his chances because they hate Hillary that much, and those voters won't vote for a liberal regardless so their opinion doesn't matter.

Bernie and Biden are currently in the lead when it comes to the democratic nominee. Bernie polls best versus cadet bone spurs from any other candidate

 

[Anung Un Rama]

It's retarded for Bernie to run third party, our voting system is made for a two party duopoly. Unless we switch to a different type of voting system like ranked choice voting or something similar to that it's a waste. I'd rather have someone in office that follows thru with 60% of the policies I want than someone who does 10%.

This is coming from a big Bernie fan and progressive.

Who was America made for a two party duopoly?

 

[japman40]

Spoiler

Yeah I agree with kpt on this point, most reasonable people feel the same way. Weird huh

 

[japman40]

Who was America made for a two party duopoly?

Once our voting system changes then I'll make sense to vote third party. As of now voting third party in a swing state is just helping out the opposite party.

 

[Anung Un Rama]

Once our voting system changes then I'll make sense to vote third party. As of now voting third party in a swing state is just helping out the opposite party.

So 1 party needs to only run on 51% of what you want to get elected?
I don't believe in that.

 

[japman40]

So 1 party needs to only run on 51% of what you want to get elected?
I don't believe in that.

How many third party nominees have won the presidency? 51% is better than 0%, I live in California so I don't have to vote democrat if bernie doesn't get elected. Just like last election I voted for bernie in the primaries and green party for the general. How well did the green party do the last few elections?