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What percentage of the vote will third party candidates receive in total?


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I was thinking the same thing (even though Trump didn't have the best response to the parents)

The media handled these two stories totally different even though Trump had no involvement whatsoever in the loss of thd soldier.

Crazy that the same guy wrote those articles. The overwhelming majority of the media really is in the pocket of the left
 
A weird and random story is getting overshadowed. Late Saturday night the new York post which endorsed trump came out with "new" and exclusive nude photos of Melania. Trump telling the post, “Melania was one of the most successful models and she did many photo shoots, including for covers and major magazines. This was a picture taken for a European magazine prior to my knowing Melania. In Europe, pictures like this are very fashionable and common. They’re a celebration of the human body as art” trump surrogate on Saturday said they were very tasteful and how beautiful she was. Which brings the question, did the trump campaign leak nude photos of melania and why? This whole fucking campaign is one weird cluster fuck.
 
He went from being neutral or even friendly to trumps run to now being deliberately against him. Makes me wonder what happened cause trump was still being trump before the switch
I think part of it is good PR for bashing Trump, and the bigger part is setting himself up for 2020. He can disavow trump if he gets trounced and then he can hold up the mantle of trump (celebrity, lots of money) to lead the R's in 2020 against a pretty weak (and old, especially if health concerns are true) clinton.
 
California and New York state being electoral vote "winner take all" states is the only reason Democrats are competitive in national elections.
Lol this is like saying Texas winner take all is the only reason republicans are competitive. Yes the majority of people in 2 of the the 3 biggest states vote D. This isn't some new development and has nothing to do with competition. Especially when its not like swing states are going D as well...
 
Lol this is like saying Texas winner take all is the only reason republicans are competitive. Yes the majority of people in 2 of the the 3 biggest states vote D. This isn't some new development and has nothing to do with competition. Especially when its not like swing states are going D as well...

I'm fine with making all of the large states either proportional or by District (like Nebraska) in regards to the awarding of electoral votes.

If you take away the electoral vote Monopoly of New York and California, the Democrats are no longer competitive nationally no matter how you cut the numbers.
 
I'm fine with making all of the large states either proportional or by District (like Nebraska) in regards to the awarding of electoral votes.

If you take away the electoral vote Monopoly of New York and California, the Democrats are no longer competitive nationally no matter how you cut the numbers.
This is such a bizarre point (and wrong). Take 2012, and have NY and CA not counted for either side, and dems still win in a landslide (248-206). Take away the stranglehold of texas and have it not count for either side and its an even bigger blowout at (248 to 168). Even if you flip NY to red and don't count CA the dems still win. (248-235).

I'm not exactly what your point is? If the 3 biggest states all went to the same party, then the other party would never win? No shit... If you're point is that NY and CA are the only reason dems win, and if we were just to not count those states (for some bizarre reason) then you're wrong, because dems still win.

Basically anyway you slice the 3 biggest states, republicans would need to flip CA to win based of 2012 numbers.
 
I'm interested in say mid October if polling indicates Trump isn't likely to win of Republican leadership tries to throw him completely under the bus.
 
A weird and random story is getting overshadowed. Late Saturday night the new York post which endorsed trump came out with "new" and exclusive nude photos of Melania. Trump telling the post, “Melania was one of the most successful models and she did many photo shoots, including for covers and major magazines. This was a picture taken for a European magazine prior to my knowing Melania. In Europe, pictures like this are very fashionable and common. They’re a celebration of the human body as art” trump surrogate on Saturday said they were very tasteful and how beautiful she was. Which brings the question, did the trump campaign leak nude photos of melania and why? This whole fucking campaign is one weird cluster fuck.
It sounds like they did leak them through the Post, which is kind of weird but not unexpected that Trump might pimp out his wife for his personal gain. I feel sorry for her, she seems like a decent person. It doesn't seem like this is even much of a controversy though. It's not surprising to anyone that she has nudes floating around, at least.
 
Even the fox news reporter was amazed by his answer. Startling by trumpian standards she said
It sounds like they did leak them through the Post, which is kind of weird but not unexpected that Trump might pimp out his wife for his personal gain. I feel sorry for her, she seems like a decent person. It doesn't seem like this is even much of a controversy though. It's not surprising to anyone that she has nudes floating around, at least.
I keep getting amazed by how low trump will go.
 
thats the guy who is running against paul ryan? didnt ryan just speak at trumps convention? loyalty is strong with trump.
 
which rhymes with dumpster, by no small coincidence.


  • Got caught lying about the NFL and debate scheduling.
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/nfl-denies-sending-donald-trump-letter-over-presidential-debates/


  • Major GOP staffer leaves Republican Party, refuses to vote Trump

http://www.aol.com/article/2016/08/01/jeb-bush-adviser-sally-bradshaw-gop/21442889/

Jeb Bush's top adviser Sally Bradshaw is leaving the Republican party, declaring herself an independent.

The GOP staffer announced the news in an email to CNN, saying if the race is close in her home state of Florida she might vote for Hillary Clinton.
"As much as I don't want another four years of Obama's policies, I can't look my children in the eye and tell them I voted for Donald Trump," Bradshaw told CNN. "This is a time when country has to take priority over political parties. Donald Trump cannot be elected president."

  • Despite being rabidly pro-Republican and anti-Democrat, the Koch brothers won’t touch toxic Trump

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory/koch-network-refusing-trump-41025154


  • Trump got spanked by top Party figures again, after his shameful treatment of a vet’s parents

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/mitch-mcconnell-paul-ryan-defend-khizr-khans-sons/story?id=41031777

In McCain's long and strongly worded statement, he praised Khan's service to the military and sought to distance the Republican Party from Trump's controversial remarks.

"I cannot emphasize enough how deeply I disagree with Mr. Trump’s statement," McCain said. "I hope Americans understand that the remarks do not represent the views of our Republican Party, its officers or candidates."

McCain's condemnation of Trump's remarks echoed sentiments expressed by Republican leadership on Capitol Hill. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and House Speaker Paul Ryan also issued statements strongly defending the Khan family.

Two other senators, Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, who ran against Trump in the Republican primaries, and Kelly Ayotte of New Hampshire, have released statements explicitly condemning Trump by name. Ayotte wrote that she is "appalled" by the way Trump "disparaged" the Khans and compared the loss of their son with his sacrifices.

Graham said that Trump's response shows why he is not fit for the presidency.

"If you're going to be leader of the free world, you have to be able to accept criticism. Mr. Trump can't. The problem is, 'unacceptable' doesn't even begin to describe it," he said.

  • Makes modern history by becoming the first candidate in over 30 years on either side to have made people LESS likely to vote for him after his convention. (And he missed breaking even by 15 POINTS)

http://www.aol.com/article/2016/08/...ign-for-donald-trump-about-his-conv/21442995/
A Gallup poll released on Monday provided some ominous signs for Donald Trump.

The poll found that 51% of the 1,000 adults surveyed said that they were less likely to vote for Trump following the Republican National Convention.

Only 36% said that they were more likely to vote for the New York businessman after he was officially named the GOP nominee.

Monday's poll was the first instance, since Gallup began tracking Republican and Democratic conventions in 1984, that voters were less likely to vote for the party nominee in the immediate aftermath of his or her convention.


  • Hillary gets an unusually large convention bounce, takes a sizeable lead, and has won over an overwhelming percentage of Sanders voters

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hill...nt-lead-trump-national-poll/story?id=41053374
Clinton got a 7 point bounce — now leading Trump 52 to 43 percent — after the Democratic convention, reaching her highest support in any poll since early May.

Before the convention, Clinton garnered only 78 percent of Sanders supporters last weekend, with 12 percent going to Trump, 6 percent voting for neither and 4 percent voting for a third party candidate.
But now, 91 percent of Sanders backers say they will vote for Clinton and 6 for Trump, who has predicted that the Vermont lawmaker's supporters will come to his side.


I’m probably missing more things, but that should suffice.



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Congratulations!

Enjoy your Millions of asylum seekers and SJW rulers.
 
I think it's too early to gather 'round the Trumpster fire and start roasting marshmellows but it's been a good week for sure.
 
HOFer coming through come debate time. Hillary already admitted her emails were related to national security.
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