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Elections 2016 Presidential Election General Discussion v2

How satisfied are you voting for your candidate?


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Why did the FBI decline to prosecute?

I know that the premise of this hypo is to question the extent of Dem party loyalism but it seems so strange. We know of a murder but the FBI is ignoring it? I would think that would be extremely relevant information to any voter. I could see if you said that it couldn't be proven but was strongly suspected but this suggests that not only is it true but everyone knows and is just ignoring it?

Is she still the Democratic nominee? Why are they still supporting her?

I think the TS is alluding to the Seth Rich murder. He worked for the DNC and was shot and killed a month or so ago. There are all sorts of conspiracy theories surrounding his death that all basically lead to "Hillary had him killed". I think that the people who believe this sort of thing would be naturally inclined to also believe in wide-spread cover ups and would point to the FBI failing to prosecute Hillary over her use of a private email server as proof that the agency is in cahoots with the Clintons/Democrats.

Of course, there is no evidence of Hillary's involvement in Seth Rich's murder or any evidence that it was a political hit job but the conspiracy theorists will just dismiss that because in their minds, Hillary is a crafty Frank Underwood type skilled at covering her tracks and injecting enough doubt to absolve herself of any connection.
 
Waiting for Trump to win to make America great again so that I can move to the USA - legally.
 
How is it a fantasy? Those are his own words and her policies align with his. See the Soros leaks thread

No, those are not his words. Here is a quote from Soros....

A global society does not mean a global state. To abolish the existence of states is neither feasible nor desirable; but insofar as there are collective interests that transcend state boundaries, the sovereignty of states must be subordinated to international law and international institutions.

and...

I advocate an alliance of democratic states, with a dual purpose. One, to promote what I call open society. I talk about an alliance of open societies which would first foster the development of open societies within individual countries, because there's a lot that needs to be done in that effort. And secondly, to establish basic international law and international institutions that you need for a global, open society. So that's my sort of broad concept. Now, I have not worked out the details, because I don't think it's for me to work out the details. It's for them to work out the details.
 
No, those are not his words. Here is a quote from Soros....

A global society does not mean a global state. To abolish the existence of states is neither feasible nor desirable; but insofar as there are collective interests that transcend state boundaries, the sovereignty of states must be subordinated to international law and international institutions.

and...

I advocate an alliance of democratic states, with a dual purpose. One, to promote what I call open society. I talk about an alliance of open societies which would first foster the development of open societies within individual countries, because there's a lot that needs to be done in that effort. And secondly, to establish basic international law and international institutions that you need for a global, open society. So that's my sort of broad concept. Now, I have not worked out the details, because I don't think it's for me to work out the details. It's for them to work out the details.

Soros's desire for a worldwide welfare structure is consistent with his general preference for some form of global government. “Insofar as there are collective interests that transcend state boundaries, the sovereignty of states must be subordinated to international law and international institutions.” “The greatest opposition to this idea,” he added somberly, “is coming from the United States.”

The entire edifice of global financial markets has been erected on the false premise that markets can be left to their own devices,” says Soros. “We must find a new paradigm and rebuild from the ground up.

As Soros sees things, capitalism “is today a greater threat than any totalitarian ideology.”

In October 2009, Soros told a Central European University audience that “there is a deep-seated conflict between capitalism and open society.” He observed, moreover, that “Karl Marx['s] proposition” of communist redistributionism “was a very attractive idea” that might well have succeeded if not for the unfortunate fact that “the communist rulers put their own interests ahead of the interests of the people.”22 “The failure of the central planning model did not prove the validity of the free enterprise model,” says Soros.
 
Soros's desire for a worldwide welfare structure is consistent with his general preference for some form of global government. “Insofar as there are collective interests that transcend state boundaries, the sovereignty of states must be subordinated to international law and international institutions.” “The greatest opposition to this idea,” he added somberly, “is coming from the United States.”

The entire edifice of global financial markets has been erected on the false premise that markets can be left to their own devices,” says Soros. “We must find a new paradigm and rebuild from the ground up.

As Soros sees things, capitalism “is today a greater threat than any totalitarian ideology.”

In October 2009, Soros told a Central European University audience that “there is a deep-seated conflict between capitalism and open society.” He observed, moreover, that “Karl Marx['s] proposition” of communist redistributionism “was a very attractive idea” that might well have succeeded if not for the unfortunate fact that “the communist rulers put their own interests ahead of the interests of the people.”22 “The failure of the central planning model did not prove the validity of the free enterprise model,” says Soros.

Yup. Nothing in there regarding destroying the US, or a one world government.
 
Soros's desire for a worldwide welfare structure is consistent with his general preference for some form of global government. “Insofar as there are collective interests that transcend state boundaries, the sovereignty of states must be subordinated to international law and international institutions.” “The greatest opposition to this idea,” he added somberly, “is coming from the United States.”

The entire edifice of global financial markets has been erected on the false premise that markets can be left to their own devices,” says Soros. “We must find a new paradigm and rebuild from the ground up.

As Soros sees things, capitalism “is today a greater threat than any totalitarian ideology.”

In October 2009, Soros told a Central European University audience that “there is a deep-seated conflict between capitalism and open society.” He observed, moreover, that “Karl Marx['s] proposition” of communist redistributionism “was a very attractive idea” that might well have succeeded if not for the unfortunate fact that “the communist rulers put their own interests ahead of the interests of the people.”22 “The failure of the central planning model did not prove the validity of the free enterprise model,” says Soros.

I consider myself a decent guy.

I don't wish death upon anyone.

That said, George Soros is one of the few people in the entire world that when his passing is announced, I'll be dancing in the fucking rain.
 
I love the fantasy!
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There were two, and countless others who did not respond (probably afraid to admit they would).
LOL. Why even pose the hypothethical if your conclusion was already determined regardless of feedback?
 
Well its been few days since he tried to be more serious. But Trump is Trump and cant help himself.

 
I laugh my ass off with the people stuck in the weeds about Soros. That is such deep conspiracy/paranoia B.S.
Though I value it in the fact it lets me know who to immediately ignore, no need to waste time arguing with stupid people.
 
Well its been few days since he tried to be more serious. But Trump is Trump and cant help himself.



How can anyone take a guy seriously that gets into twitter wars with people? It's just so cheesy.
 
How can anyone take a guy seriously that gets into twitter wars with people? It's just so cheesy.
Give the guy credit....he has held it together for days. Its only for so long a man can not respond. The bad timing with this is he tweeted this the same time his campaign manager was on TV talking about how he doesnt use personal insults. She was against him few months ago and talked about how he uses personal insults and how he has used the average people to build his wealth. She was asked about that statement and she said no. I am a mother of 4 children and dont condone personal attacks and Trump dont use them. I wouldnt work with someone who does.
 
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/08/trump-blasts-morning-joe-227258

Why is Trump always attacking women? He attacks the Morning Joe show and twice attacks Joe's wife instead of Joe. This is something that looks bad, to me, in a way that Trump's other craziness hasn't yet sunk.

Donald Trump laced into the hosts of MSNBC's morning show anew on Monday, accusing one of co-hosts of being "neurotic" and a "mess" and both of them as being "two clowns."

"Tried watching low-rated @Morning_Joe this morning, unwatchable! @morningmika is off the wall, a neurotic and not very bright mess!" Trump tweeted Monday, referring specifically to Mika Brzezinski, in response to the first hour and 20 minutes of MSNBC's "Morning Joe."


Minutes after his initial tweet, Trump offered another personal broadside.

"Some day, when things calm down, I'll tell the real story of @JoeNBC and his very insecure long-time girlfriend, @morningmika. Two clowns!" Trump tweeted, a day after campaign manager Kellyanne Conway insisted that he "doesn't hurl personal insults."
 


Ladies and gentlemen, your next president of the great United States of America. Mr. Donald J Trump! Fighting for the soul of our nation, one huge crowd at a time. The legendary businessman speaks in front of a raucous Akron Ohio jampacked group of thousands and thousands!
 
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