Elections 2016 New Hampshire Primary Discussion

[GearSolidMetal]

Maybe that is his goal outspend people?

That was Bush's original plan, to get most of the donors and starve the other campaigns.

Hasn't worked out for him... spending $2900 per voter in Iowa.

 

[Diamond Jim]

Kasich will finish second.

 

[GSP in 2006]

That was Bush's original plan, to get most of the donors and starve the other campaigns.

Hasn't worked out for him... spending $2900 per voter in Iowa.

Too much babbaged attached to his last name. Hillary gets a share of that too, but Bill's presidency is far enough away it doesn't hurt her as much.

 

[ncordless]

Too much babbaged attached to his last name. Hillary gets a share of that too, but Bill's presidency is far enough away it doesn't hurt her as much.

Also, those who remember both presidencies tend to have a more favorable opinion of the Clinton years than the Bush years.

 

[in the]

I really don't think that Paul and Sanders are even remotely similar at this point. Paul didn't really represent any ideology beyond some broad anti-establishment message that didn't have the policy to substantiate it. And, accordingly, he never even achieved a fraction of the support, be it in the way of donations or, now, primary votes, as Sanders has. Ron Paul ended with 10% of the primary vote and 0 states won. Sanders is already a lock to far surpass that.

Paul was nothing but ideology/principle. In that case, he was a lot like Sanders. While I don't know if I'll ever see another candidate have such enthusiastic support as Ron Paul did, it just didn't transfer to the ballot box. It seems like Sanders might have a bit of a chance here. I hope so, I don't want Shillary in office.

 

[ncordless]

Paul was nothing but ideology/principle. In that case, he was a lot like Sanders. While I don't know if I'll ever see another candidate have such enthusiastic support as Ron Paul did, it just didn't transfer to the ballot box. It seems like Sanders might have a bit of a chance here. I hope so, I don't want Shillary in office.

Paul really spoke to young right wingers. But that's not a base that wins elections. Bernie speaks to young left wingers, and that actually can be a strong foundation. Purely numbers.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Too much babbaged attached to his last name. Hillary gets a share of that too, but Bill's presidency is far enough away it doesn't hurt her as much.

Hillary's last name is her best asset, which says alot about her.

 

[Satanical Eve]

Hillary basically copy and pasted her speech from Sanders.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Kasich will finish second.

Yup. Looks that way.

Congrats to him on the most success he'll have, until he eventually drops out.

 

[carlos cadona]

I hope Trump wins the nomination, he's basically the only thing that could get Sanders elected if he win the Democrats nomination.

 

[speakhandsforme]

Didn't he win 1 state by popular? And a few others by delegates?

Shoot, I'm actually not sure now that I look back at the results. It says that he carried 0 states and tied in 1 state, but the different measures of outcome show different things and, to be honest, I'm not sure how to make them out without spending a couple minutes on it.

I would be really shocked if Cruz was the nominee. Trump I can understand he is not far right and anti-Government to the extent that Cruz is. All Trump, really needs is a 'moderate' makeover while still appealing to his core base with his immigration among foreign policy stances.

Cruz on the other hand well... yeah he is so leaning and ideological its hard.

I can't say I'd be shocked. American Republicans are still surging to the right, even in the face of extraordinary resistance from history, science, reason, and the like. Cruz represents that ideological retreat and, for all his flaws, he's a very smart guy and he's ran by far the best campaign of the lot.

 

[Diamond Jim]

I wished Bernie said I'll tell ya how I'm gonna pay for it. With the blood of hedge fund managers.

 

[ucunc156]

That was a bad speech by clinton. But then again, it's hard when your down 20 points. Sanders hit all his usual notes in his speech, and the publicly asking for a fund raiser this moment is intriguing. I think it will work for him.

A 20 point win is huge. Its gotta help him at least close the gap in sc and nevada. Hillary's best asset is her name, and oddly enough, it might be her unraveling as well. The anti establishment crowd on both sides is huge.

The amount of independents Sanders won was incredible. It shows his electability imo. Those independents not only chose him over hillary, they chose him over all republicans since they picked to do the democrate vote. Especially interesting since politico has NH as one if the 7 swing states this year.

 

[ncordless]

Yup. Looks that way.

Congrats to him on the most success he'll have, until he eventually drops out.

Yup. He needed 20% or more here to have hope that he'd become the establishment guy. Now he's just Huntsman.

 

[GSP in 2006]

I've heard Bernie say it a couple times now, but how would they tax "Wall Street Speculation"? That doesn't make any sense at all.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

Yup. He needed 20% or more here to have hope that he'd become the establishment guy. Now he's just Huntsman.

Don't recall Huntsman getting anything close to 2nd in any primary.

 

[ucunc156]

I've heard Bernie say it a couple times now, but how would they tax "Wall Street Speculation"? That doesn't make any sense at all.

Isn't everything on wall street and financial markets speculation, guessing trends, etc? So I would say its taxing trades and swaps and derivitives and all that stuff (though I'm not sure). This is what I've always made of it.

 

[ProBoxingInsidr]

listening to bernie in his victory speech. the guy is just delusional. he thinks it is gonna be so easy just to give everything to all the poor people by taking it from all the rich people. as if the rich people, or the people that invent/produce stuff are just gonna keep doing what they do when any motivation to do it is gonna be taken away.

 

[GearSolidMetal]

I've heard Bernie say it a couple times now, but how would they tax "Wall Street Speculation"? That doesn't make any sense at all.

I'm sure that @Jack V Savage can explain it.

 

[ucunc156]

Gotta finish soon Bernie, you're going too long. End on this family note, its always one of your high notes.